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Chapter One Piece Chapter 878 Discussion / 879 Predictions

Discussion in 'One Piece' started by Aizen, Aug 31, 2017.

  1. GrySun

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    Great chapter. i'm not the biggest Luffy fan but that was really badass of him, even shattering the mirror. How does Luffy ever get out even if he beats Katakuri? I doubt they have another mirror on their ship.

    But can someone tell me why Big Mom fell over in page 7? It didn't look like anything hit her?
     
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    I think it was the coup from Sunny, no?

    Maybe Katakuri himself stops the confrontation when they get to see Sanji/Pudding/Chiffon made the cake. The most important objective for them aside taking down the straw-hats would be stopping Big Mom from her rage attack. And it seems Pedro really won't be coming back like Pell.
     
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    She fell over before they launched though. Hm.

    I get the feeling they're in the mirror world just so they can battle without anyone interrupting them, not sure they will stop from someone telling them about the cake.
     
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    Best Chapter i've read in years.

    Character (presumed) death, Roger flashbacks, Perospero with an arm blown off. Big Mom still being OP, luffy being a badass and eternal hype for what's presumably the boss fight (because big mom is less realistic). 2nd in command for a yonko's crew who can see a few seconds in the future (Enel 2.0?).


    As for Katakuri he seems more to be a skillful/tactical fighter than one that goes off raw power. It's a billion beri man though. He should be out of luffy's league. Really excited to see how this plays out.
     
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    stfu dude, the concept is still badass. Zoro standing before Shiryu ready to kick his keister. SO MUCH BADASS
    I think Katakuri is impressed but also confident in his ability to win.


    Decent chapter. So we most likely won't see Luffy. If he couldn't beat Cracker without Nami, then even if by any chance he does beat Katakuri, he won't have enough left to beat Big Mom. She'll pulverize him like meat. This arc is gonna end without Luffy beating Big Mom, probably the only way it can end. Sanji might be able to come up with a way to make Big Mom go to sleep so the crew can run away. Katakuri beating Luffy wouldn't be impossible either, but I don't see that happening since OP.
     
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    Great chapter!

    Glad Pedro's dead.(99% sure he's dead). I wasn't ready for an asspull and this'll probably motivate Carrot to join the straw hats. Pedro's been a badass ever since he appeared. And even at the end he managed to troll a Big Mom and Perespero.

    I'm a little disappointed with the way Big Mom is being portrayed. I din't expect her to be on white beards level but Katakuri seems more fit to be a yonko than Big mom is. The look on BM pirates when sunny started flying was priceless:XD

    Luffy managed to be more badass than Katakuri this chapter. It's good to see him finally act like a captain. Grabbing Katakuri and throwing him Inside the Mirror world was badass.

    Why's everybody saying Luffy's gonna lose....... Oh because Katakuri looks stronger than him. I wonder, when was the last time Luffy beat someone who looked stronger?:yodawg
     
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    Luffy usually had help those times he beat superior opponents.
     
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    Ah... the thing is Luffy is already doing better against Katakuri than he did against Doflamingo or Cracker. Is he not?. He was able to grab Katakuri and throw him inside and he clearly doesn't seem overwhelmed by Katakuri unlike when he battled Doflamingo or Cracker. Both Cracker and Doflamingo were pretty much untouchable until Luffy went gear 4. Not hating on Katakuri, but it looks like everybody's over hyping him due to his status. Sabo had no trouble beating Burgess , the right hand of Blackbeard.

    Marco and katakuri are on the same level because they have the same status?

    Like Luffy and Law? They have the same status

    Like Buggy and Hawk eye? They also have the same status

    He can. Observation Haki doesn't Improve one's reflexes. Preys get caught by predators due to this. They know that there's a tiger chasing them and they know it's going to kill them, but knowing that doesn't really change anything because they're not fast enough.

    Yeah, but katakuri isn't superior to Luffy. He just looks strong.
     
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    Her food tantrums certainly don't add good things to her portrayal and taking her serious. She's definitely on whitebeard's level in terms of power. Whitebeard likely has the stronger DF but Big Mom's physical power and endurance are simply insane. Her moves with Napoleon are devastating, she can incorporate thunder and fire into her attacks with her fists. Has all the fancy haki things, and her DF can't steal life from serious opponents but the power Zeus, Prometheus and Napoleon add to her is basically enough for a DF in battle. If imagining her in Whitebeard's place at marineford she would probably be pretty badass to look at as she deals with fodder and the admirals too.

    It's the kind of aura, seriousness and respect of Whitebeard she's missing, mostly because of her food tantrums but even without that she's not the smartest and calculating person. So her power is yonko-worthy but her personality makes me wonder how she managed to come that far. Probably Streusen and others doing a lot.
     
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    Crocodile he was helped after the fact by robin twice but never in the fight itself right?, Enel took a heart blow from that guy but it barely phased him, Lucci it's been a while but I remember that being just luffy I think?, and Dofla he had help. Am I forgetting stuff? It has been a long time, those are the 4 opponents I remember being portrayed as definite superior. I'm sure I must be forgetting at least someone..
     
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    How the heck is luffy going to return to the ship now?
    Katakuri seems to calm for me,...
     
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    And here I almost forgot that :notlikethis She is way too casual at killing whoever she wants in her family. Kinda wish she was shown to be a big family loving person who is harsh to everyone not her family, but no... She would probably even kill Katakuri if she felt like it, regardless of food tantrum or not. Pretty stupid of her since she can't be Pirate King just from strength alone, but hey maybe she wouldn't kill her top fighters(Opera doesn't seem to have been one, rip).
     
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    But. . .

    It's apparent that we just have two different opinions on this matter. After all of this Sanji's not going to be able to pack up his kitchen knives, tip his hat and say "Welp, I'm outta here".

    The wedding was destroyed. Sanji had a direct hand in Pudding's betrayal -- he might as well be a hostage. He's not leaving. That flying carpet might be "fast" but he still has to get to it, the carpet still has to ascend, the carpet still has to travel. It's not going to be that easy.

    Sanji has to be retrieved and escorted off the island. This is just fact. Luffy is instrumental to that and at this moment in time he's about to be in the perfect position for that to occur.

    But it's whatever though. Different interpretations.
     
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    No, it didnt. Ch.834 only said he is the eldest son not the first-born.
    Ch.860 introduced Compote, the eldest daughter, we didnt know who is older until ch.878 one of his subordinates/siblings called him as "The first-born"
    And Compote & him have a greatly resemblance, so mayhe they could be twins
     
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    Why the first-born child of an uncaring mother and an author that only cares for splitting males from females at her family matters right now?

    Well... regular chapter to me. Hype and all, but comes with fails, plotholes and forced situations that aren't of my liking.
    I loved those cannon balls! it feels even nice to be attacked by them xD
    I only hope to see what is the Mochi Mochi no Mi, a fruit that created the "Special Paramecia" cathegory, and what it can do.

    Gotta admit, is the first time that Oda puts Luffy to fight the "first-mate" of an organization... that is something that i like despite all the crazy situations that ended there. Now, Sanji and Pudding can shine without obstacles... THAT is something that i do not like though.
     
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    For me this will happen:

    Linlin jumps on Zeus and launches to the pursuit of Sunny by air. The fleet attempts to follow it, but suddenly the Germa's ships keep them occupied for a while, while the Sun Pirates manipulate the sea to prevent it from advancing.

    At that point Big Mom follows the crew to the chocolate island just as Sanji finishes cooking the cake.
     
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    I would like to point one thing out and ask about other thing.

    Question first, when people refer to Katakuri as to 2nd most powerful BM fighter, is BM considered as the one above him, right? 'Coz I just don't see anyone else apart from her being stronger than him within her crew, so this is more like a clarification for me really.

    The other thing, people here are saying they don't want to see Luffy pulling out a win or that they do not expect it. I just wanna say, unless anything crazy happens, the situation is following: They are in the Mirror world, present are Luffy, Katakuri, Brulee who seems to have passed out and fodders. If Luffy loses, he dies. Honestly, I do not believe Katakuri would say "you're crazy strong, persistent and I admire you for that, even though I should finish you off now, I won't, take care buddy", hence another possible outcome is for Luffy to win or run. Question is, do we really want to see him run away? I thought these times are over, he himself stated it while clashing fists with Fujitora.

    I do know that Luffy did already beat Cracker who is one of 3 top fighters amongst BM's followers and also that he struggled greatly while fighting BM. The thing is, Katakuri, even though he is indeed strong and probably a level above Luffy, is not BM. There probably isn't a mind-blowing gap between his and BM's power but still there could be (should be?) a gap. Now if we explore that gap, we could say Luffy might have a chance here. I'd rather if Luffy brought up a new technique/g4 form he did not show us yet and managed to beat Katakuri or to achieve a "draw" of some kind and get out of this alive but if he were to run for his life, it would be even worse than beating Katakuri (though it's not bad imo). The reason for him to go into Mirror world could have been just to hold Katakuri back but it could also be for the sole reason of going crazy alll-out so nobody else would get hurt. Also, I've read opinions that he could learn something new from Katakuri since he uses similar techniques.

    Just my hunch on ongoing things. :)
     
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    Why are people complaining about Katakuri observation haki, like get real, that only works against slow opponents and luffy isn't that slow, yeah sure Katakuri probably saw luffy grabbing due to what he said, but if it's too late the he's helpless. It's like saying, because you have observation haki, you can dodge all of kizarus attack even though he's mad fast.
    And I swear if another cracker and mingo argument starts again (rolls eyes).
     
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    Do you recall when Big Mom rampaged for the first time at the beginning of the WCI arc?
    1. She rampaged.
    2. Requested Croquembouche.
    3. Killed her son.
    4. Jimbei appeared.
    5. Gave her Croquembouche which she ate with glee and delight.
    6. Returns to her sense - doesn't acknowledge Jimbei gave her the Croquembouche.
    7. Returns to her senses - asks Jimbei if he was the one who destroyed the city? She's unaware she did all that.
    8. Where does her memory return to when she returns to her senses? back to her last meeting with Jimbei in which he gifted her a Poneglyph.
    9. She then proceeds to kill Jimbei and multiple persons via her wheel.
    So, why would she even acknowledge Sanji gave her a cake when it's been established that she has no recollection of anything that takes place during her hunger-pangs? She's only going to return to her senses and recall the damage that the SHs and Germa have caused in her territory.

    Are you forgetting the Carpet doesn't belong to Big Mom, but to Pudding... who is in love with Sanji? Why wouldn't she take him to the Sunny once the cake is cooked?

    And how is he not leaving when all he's doing is baking the cake and returning to the Sunny? You're making out like he's being held down by enemies when what he's actually doing is just securing their escape.

    It's not like Pudding is going to betray him,Chiffon is there to also control the situation. What is stopping Rabiyan the carpet from flying Sanji to the Sunny?

    All he's doing is playing his role no different to what Brook and Chopper did.

    No, not at all. The carpet is owned by Pudding who has feelings for Sanji, and because of that, she wants him to escape. There is no retrieval needed here. All that's needed i for Pudding to take him to the Sunny. Why won't she do that is the question you need to answer.
     
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    But didn't Big Mom create the carpet? Just a tiny piece of Big Mom's soul in the vivre card Nami has was enough to force the entire Seducing Woods to do her bidding, I doubt the carpet would be able to disobey Big Mom in person. (And Big Mom will be there in person unless Pudding takes the cake and runs away to lure Big Mom away from the Strawhats so they can escape.) And if for some reason, the carpet is capable of disobeying Big Mom, couldn't Big Mom just take the soul she imbued into the carpet back, turning it back into a normal, non-flying carpet?

    I don't think Sanji needs anyone to take him back to the Sunny though, Sanji can fly now, surely he can get himself back to the Sunny without assistance.
     
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