One Piece General SBS Discussion Thread

[Pirate Queen]

Thanks for the share @Lexusflame

Heard dragons can fly in the sky by using the clouds, so Kaido's doing that by generating his own clouds and then walking from cloud to cloud. Does that make sense?

Isnt this the exact method Momonosuke used in his dragon form to come out of that hole in Punk Hazard? I know Oda didnt acknowledge this, but his intentioned deflection from that is probably because it will be reveald in upcoming chapters...

We already know Momo will replace Kaido metaphorically as the protector of Wano, but their DF abilities will have way more similarities.

Well wasn's it was stated that Momo's DF was a copy of Kaido's? Created by Vegapunk?

Or has that not been confirmed yet? I forget, but it seems obvious I would think....

Damn my memory sucks lol

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People can also shut up about Sanji not having a significant impact on the escape from WCI.

Literally one of the dumbest standpoints I've been a part of.

 

[hokageji]

Or has that not been confirmed yet? I forget, but it seems obvious I would think....

Damn my memory sucks lol

It was labelled as an artificial devil fruit and assumed to have failed, but one can make the argument that its a copy, although it isnt confirmed.

 

[Fox666]

Assuming all Artificial Devil Fruits of the same animals are identical, then it would be a copy. But based on the Smileys, it seems they can vary quite a bit. There are multiple Smiley wolves, but they are not the same.

 

[Hannibal Psyche]

Thanks for the share @Lexusflame

Heard dragons can fly in the sky by using the clouds, so Kaido's doing that by generating his own clouds and then walking from cloud to cloud. Does that make sense?

Isnt this the exact method Momonosuke used in his dragon form to come out of that hole in Punk Hazard? I know Oda didnt acknowledge this, but his intentioned deflection from that is probably because it will be reveald in upcoming chapters...

We already know Momo will replace Kaido metaphorically as the protector of Wano, but their DF abilities will have way more similarities.

This was largely hinted in this article here:

Momonsuke's fruit was designed after Kaido's which is why it states they're like father and son.

Kaido is an Eastern Dragon as is Momonosuke, so it does imply Momonosuke will replace Kaido.

Also, Ryuma slayed a Western Dragon, so the parallel suggests that Zoro might also slay an Eastern Dragon in Kaido which is why I think Luffy and Zoro will play the biggest roles in his defeat.

Spoiler: Off Topic

Slightly not relevant to the thread, but regarding this article here. It says Garp named Dragon intending him to be viewed as a leader. Perhaps, Garp's desire was for Dragon to climb up the ladder in the Marines and change things from within and also become its leader over time. Possibly the intentions he had for Luffy and Ace.
Given that Dragon is an RA, he probably defected from the idea seeing how corrupt the WG and decided to rid himself off the Marines. Apparently, Dragon also holds a secret that no one in the RA are aware off... could be he was once a Navy officer, but also defected.

 

[Fox666]

Momonsuke's fruit was designed after Kaido's

Would that be the case? There are a few wolves Smileys, but were they designer after Jabras' fruit? I suppose they were designer after wolves, and the existence of the real Inu Inu no Mi is irrelevant.

IMHO the Lineage Factor implies the key factor for creating an artificial fruit is DNA. Unless a Zoan user can transform his DNA too, the only way to create Momonosuke's fruit was having access to a real dragon.

Or Kaido was born a dragon and ate a Hito Hito no Mi model...

 

[goldb]

Volume 93's SBS is out since last week, seems noone has posted it here. I'll link HERE.

A few things that caught my eyes:

R: When Kaido turned into a dragon, did he like float in the air?
O: Heard dragons can fly in the sky by using the clouds, so Kaido’s doing that by generating his own clouds and then walking from cloud to cloud. Does that make sense?

In the same way we saw Momo trying to escape that ditch with Luffy on his back. Another link between the 2 of them.

R: There’s a Tanuki in Otama’s home that’s similar to the one from “Bunbuku Chagama”. I don’t think it’s tamed with Otama’s ability. I think there must be many interesting stories about it, right?


O: So you’ve noticed? It’s actually a tea pot that ate the Dog-Dog fruit model Tanuki. Since it’s a tea pot that Hitetsu carefully used, after it obtained its ability, it’s very close to them. Also it will feel hot if you put it on fire, so it is a pet that can’t be used to boil water anymore.
But, one more thing, I was hoping someone would notice it, but no one mentioned it. So I will announce it right here!!
If you look carefully, Mr.Bunbuku is actually…
Sitting on its own balls!!(Lmao)
I can’t believe no one noticed it!! I laugh as I drew it alone!!

I KNEW IT! I'll now have to go back and look for the balls.

R: Hello. In the Chapter 905 of Volume 90, when Betty and Koala spoke, Koala had a girl with black hair on the left side. The girl also had a mechanical arm. What is her name? Please tell me!
O: There’re 5 Commanders in the RA, of the East,West, North, South and G(Grand Line) armies. Ivankov is the Commander of G army, and Inazuma is his assistant, the deputy commander.
This girl is Ahiru, the deputy commander of the East army and the assistant of Bello Betty.

Great to have this clarified also; we knew he was a commander but it's nice to know which branch and just have it all confirmed. I don't kno why this wasn't done in the story. It could just have been a panel in the same chapter we saw Betty with on Kamabakka.

R: Please tell me the name of Whitebeard’s huge “sword”. Is that a Great sword?
O: Whitebeard’s Naginata is call “Murakumogiri(rough translation: Cloud Cutter)” , it’s a Supreme Grade Blade/Sword.

Just an FYI, that makes it the same grade as Mihawk's sword. For a man of his calibre, it was bound to be a pretty special weapon but it's nice to have confirmation of that.

 

[McNuss]

Would that be the case? There are a few wolves Smileys, but were they designer after Jabras' fruit? I suppose they were designer after wolves, and the existence of the real Inu Inu no Mi is irrelevant.

IMHO the Lineage Factor implies the key factor for creating an artificial fruit is DNA. Unless a Zoan user can transform his DNA too, the only way to create Momonosuke's fruit was having access to a real dragon.

Or Kaido was born a dragon and ate a Hito Hito no Mi model...

Momonosuke's fruit actually has no traits of a Smile aside from looking like one.
Which makes me think Caesar got something wrong entirely. Anyways, lineage factor can only explain Zoan fruits, but not Logia or Paramecia.

I also think we have a misconception about lineage factor, the name lineage is the key. Both Mink and Fishmen don't take after their parents, but after someone from their whole lineage.
The Germa children had their lineage factors modified to develop powers comparable to Paramecia fruits, but Sanji can set his leg on fire, despite being unmodified... Which makes me wonder, did Judge insert something, or did he unlock something already there since ancient times..?
Lineage Factor seems to be the equivalent of DNA, but it is not exactly the same. Otherwise it could have just been called DNA.

Now it gets a lot more tinfoily, but we know that the Sky people and the Ancient Kingdom are related. Considering that the Sky people stayed isolated, we can assume that their customs date back to ancient time. The sky people are ruled by Gods, which in modern days are just a political office... BUT Enel believed himself to be a real God presumably due to consuming his Logia Devil Fruit... Which makes me think, what if the first "Gods" were people with actual innate Superpowers or alternatively acquired superpowers through extensive LF alteration, and their lineage is what's in the fruits?

Anyways I made a thread a while ago with more disjointed thoughts regarding these matters, and I believe anything that has to do with Devil Fruits is the key to predictions about what could have happened during the Void Century.
After all, it is the Devil's fruit. The Devil is the natural enemy of God, but most importantly his fruit represents Knowledge... And what is the most important knowledge in One Piece? The lost history.

It is a huge hint at us readers.

 

[Fox666]

Momonosuke's fruit actually has no traits of a Smile aside from looking like one. Which makes me think Caesar got something wrong entirely.

Momonosuke's is an Artificial Devil Fruit created by Vegapunk. Smileys are created by Ceasar Clown.

The Germa children had their lineage factors modified to develop powers comparable to Paramecia fruits

I think they were also transformed in cyborgs later in life.

but Sanji can set his leg on fire, despite being unmodified...

Sanji use friction to create fire. Which is one of least weird powers normals Humans can use in One Piece.

 

[McNuss]

Momonosuke's is an Artificial Devil Fruit created by Vegapunk. Smileys are created by Ceasar Clown.

I know. Sorry if the context wasn't clear. I meant that Caesar got something wrong with his Smiles. And since we can deduce that Lineage Factor was used in the creation of Smile, or why else all the animal spare parts on the desolate Punk Hazard, it makes me think that maybe Lineage Factor isn't the only component. I also think Caesar tried to emulate these other component somehow, hence the psychotropic side effects of Smile, because this component is a somewhat more spiritual one (Soul?)

I think they were also transformed in cyborgs later in life.

Naah, we know kind of when their exoskeleton manifested, which was during childhood, and this is the source of their cyborg-like bodies.

Sanji use friction to create fire. Which is one of least weird powers normals Humans can use in One Piece.

That was before the timeskip, afterwards he can turn his legs on fire instantly and also set his whole body on fire when remembering his time in Kamabakka. In an SBS it was said his fire comes from his "passionate heart" or something.

 

[Hannibal Psyche]

That was before the timeskip, afterwards he can turn his legs on fire instantly and also set his whole body on fire when remembering his time in Kamabakka. In an SBS it was said his fire comes from his "passionate heart" or something.

Pretty sure Oda was joking.

At this point, Sanji can move at speeds that can't be seen by the naked eye. If he can kick the ground more than 10 times in a moment to perform Soru, then he can probably create a lot of friction without spinning. The speed at which he'd move his leg thanks to mastering Soru and Skywalk would likely enable him to create friction.

One thing Oda never does is contradict himself, he's very consistent. If something was based on friction before, it will still be based on friction later. Oda tends to joke a lot in the SBS and the thing about the flames coming from his heart is probably one of those.

 

[King Moe]

When next SBS?

 

[goldb]

When next SBS?

Most recent one is THIS. Vol 94 SBS will be beginning of October; likely end of that first week.

 

[McNuss]

New SBS is out and is awesome! It includes 40 and 60 year old Usopp, with apparently an hint about his future?

 

[goldb]

Here are some parts of the SBS until we can get a fully translated version:

credits: Araraaa@AP

Q:chapter 943... it’s so touching!!!(ben!!)
Izo?! The commander of the 16th division of Whitebeard Pirates, Izo was one of the Nine Scabbards? Ahhh...Was Kouzuki Oden the commander of the 16th division?!

Oda:Oh... You guys noticed another small detail. Young Kin’emon and the others in the flashback scene. If you count there’re exactly 9 people, huh? You guys thought it was Okiku...it’s someone with a little different aura...By the way, “Izo” is one of the commanders that appeared in the Summit War arc. It’s true that they look similar since Izo also wore a kimono.
And in vol 82 chapter 820, it did said that some people from “Wano Country” got on Whitebeard’s ship~.
One day the answer to this question will be revealed, so just continue reading.
You’ll notice it, right~!

Q: Odacchi! I noticed something! Didn’t Mr.Hyogoro also has flame-like hair like the “Koma-dog” and “Koma-deer” does...which means he’s a “Koma-human”, right!!!

Oda: Ah! Is that so...!
Okay, he’s a Koma-human then.

There’s also an anthropomorphized version of Shanks’ sword,
Griffon.
And what the other Strawhats would name Soba Mask

credits: redon@AP

 

[goldb]

Reader: Oda sensei, I have an important report for you. On page 23 of vol 87, Sanji kicked Big Mom, right? Where did Sanji, who won’t kick women, go?!

Oda: Okay. I received a couple other letters regarding this, but that’s not what happened! Big Mom attempted to punch Reiju, and Luffy and Sanji stopped her. That’s what happened here in this scene. However, can you stopped Big Mom’s punch by merely catching it?! No, you can’t!! So in order to cancel out the power of her punch, he blocked it with his kick!! Which means he’s just protecting themselves, it’s not a violent action toward a woman!! So Sanji didn’t violate his policy!!

Names of Soba Mask by the Strawhats:
Luffy: Black! Mask! Mane
Zoro: Idiot
Nami: Cape
Usopp: Lightning Skyser(Sky + Kaiser)
Robin: Ominous Mask
Chopper: Go get them Sanji
Franky: Black Rolling Destroyer
Brook: Enviable Man in Women’s Bathhouse

Oda: If it were you, which one would you choose?

Reader: The names for all admirals follow the format of “color+animal”, right. So I thought there’s a organization in the Marine Headquarter, where they’ll discuss and decide the names for each admiral. Could it be that the head of that organization is Vice Admiral Nazuketagari*, who has a hobby of doing fortune telling based on names? That must be it, right...?!

Oda: Dat..That’s right!! I’m impressed that you know about it. And not just the admirals, he named every member of the Marine who has a epithet!!

*sounds similar to “naming things”


Reader: Is it a coincidence that Kin’emon’s wife, Otsuru, and Tsuru from the Marine share the same name?

Oda: Oh you’re right—. They have the same name—.
However, do you guys know about “NANA”, that Shojo manga? In that manga, the two main female protagonists are both named “Nana”! They have the same name!! Even though it’s a famous manga!! So, it’s not really a bad thing, is it?
So if one day they met each other, they conversation would go like this:
“I’m also called Tsuru, Tsuru-chan.”

Reader: Oda sensei, do you still read all the postcards and letters yourself?

Oda: I read all of them! Of course I’ll! And I never dispose them over the course of 22 years(laugh). Because there’re way too many of them, I can’t store them in my house, so I borrowed a room, and all the letters that I’ve finished reading will be sent to that room.
There’re so much of them that one day the floor might fall off!
Thank you!! Those letters contain you guys’ feelings in them, so I won’t throw them away.

credits: KaidoBoby@AP

 

[goldb]

Spoiler: more SBS images

Credits: ScotchInformer@AP

 

[goldb]

Info for Vol 96 SBS is beginning to slowly come out. We've got character designs for Roger Pirates:

Credits: skidd_@OPreddit

Credits: Gao_Dragon@OPreddit

 

[Pirate Queen]

Info for Vol 96 SBS is beginning to slowly come out. We've got character designs for Roger Pirates:

Credits: skidd_@OPreddit

Credits: Gao_Dragon@OPreddit

Thank you!!!! This is so exciting! I can't wait for translations! I've been dreaming of this since Rayliegh's introduction!

 

[goldb]

Scabbard's heights and favourite foods:

Credits: skidd_@OPreddit

Quick trivia( don't even know how I remembered this), Izo's favourite meal is also the name of one of Oden's attacks, Gan Modoki; which is a side dish for oden. So you can say he really loves Oden. I'll...show myself out.

Zoro's teacher, Koshiro, is originally the son of Shimotsuki Kuzaburo, the swordmaker who left Wano more than 50 years ago.

Thus the name of Zoro's true teacher is Shimotsuki Koshiro and his father Shimotsuki Kuzaburo who made Sword Enma and Wado Ichimonji.

KOZABURO'S JOURNEY

Kuzaburo's journey started 55 years ago specifically when he went out to sea and a great adventure took place for Samurai Wano. He arrived at an area in Eastern Blue, then decided to save people from bandits, he began to love a girl while he was training the villagers to use the sword, he decided to stay in the area And he found a village that he named Shimotsuki after that Koshiro was born, then their granddaughter Kuina, and continues, stating that the elderly man in his village is actually Shimotsuki Kuzaburo from Wano country. Author Oda "Huh? Could it be ... connected to the Zoro dynasty ?!" This will reveal the samurai that established Shimotsuki Village.

Need some of this clarified. Oda forever teasing...

 

[KimCorrea]

Hey is that garfield? XD
More info about zoros past. Thats cool!