One Piece General SBS Discussion Thread

[KyuKyu555]

Stunning insight.

Just like you’re complaints

 

[Core D. Roy]

Just like you’re complaints

I gave examples of a thing. I wasn't even complaining, either? The WG's written to have a pretty inept intelligence system... I don't get how this is wrong. Feel free to actually give examples and engage in the conversation.

 

[baditz]

I gave examples of a thing. I wasn't even complaining, either? The WG's written to have a pretty inept intelligence system... I don't get how this is wrong. Feel free to actually give examples and engage in the conversation.

Well let me try to engage it while waiting spoiler,,
Roger may hide her D, just like Clover n Law hide their,,
For Luffy case Gorosei may just underestimate him just like every think, the power will spawn everytime n it keep escape from them, so if they know where it attach ut more easy to watch for it,,
For Issho or Aramaki, maybe they case like manga 7 deadly sin, they got prison for what they believe (n we know how corrupt OP world), n Sakazuki just see their potential just like how Meliodas recruit all 7ds.

 

[WILDCARD 1 7]

Oda: In Water 7 arc, it was decided from the start that Franky would join and Going Merry would die. I tried to confuse my readers by making them hate Franky and introducing many shipwrights. So, who should I make the enemy? OK, let's make that pigeon guy Lucci the villain!
So this is how Rob became the villain lol.
Always knew that Franky was set up as a red herring for that arc.

 

[baditz]

Oda: In Water 7 arc, it was decided from the start that Franky would join and Going Merry would die. I tried to confuse my readers by making them hate Franky and introducing many shipwrights. So, who should I make the enemy? OK, let's make that pigeon guy Lucci the villain!
So this is how Rob became the villain lol.
Always knew that Franky was set up as a red herring for that arc.

N i hear the reason Oda make franky like this because he like Bon clay VC so much, so he want make him as a crew member voice, its sad now he cannot voicing again.

 

[WILDCARD 1 7]

The prototype Moria was a priest with dual personalities, Chopper was funny, and Brook appeared as a poet and musician wearing a "Kamikaze" bandana, evoking the image of WW2 Japanese soldiers. The shipwright was short, and the plant user was distinct from the sniper.

Moria as a priest with dual personality syndrome huh. I can actually see Oda doing that with Moria.

 

[electricmastro]

Oda: In Water 7 arc, it was decided from the start that Franky would join and Going Merry would die. I tried to confuse my readers by making them hate Franky and introducing many shipwrights. So, who should I make the enemy? OK, let's make that pigeon guy Lucci the villain!
So this is how Rob became the villain lol.
Always knew that Franky was set up as a red herring for that arc.

And goes to show how Oda can misdirect. lol

 

[Vadz]

Oda: In Water 7 arc, it was decided from the start that Franky would join and Going Merry would die. I tried to confuse my readers by making them hate Franky and introducing many shipwrights. So, who should I make the enemy? OK, let's make that pigeon guy Lucci the villain!
So this is how Rob became the villain lol.
Always knew that Franky was set up as a red herring for that arc.

Well, if I learnt anything about Oda for the past decade - He probably already planned Lucci as the villain since before he decided this prank.

 

[electricmastro]

Well, if I learnt anything about Oda for the past decade - He probably already planned Lucci as the villain since before he decided this prank.

Oda can decide things last minute and still have good payoffs. Reportedly, he came up with the supernovas last minute for Sabaody, as if to say the pasts of Doflamingo and Kuma were different when he first drew them in 2002.

 

[WILDCARD 1 7]

Well, if I learnt anything about Oda for the past decade - He probably already planned Lucci as the villain since before he decided this prank.

I actually doubt that one.
I think he more like has and an outline (Robin, Ussop, Marry, Sunny, Garp and Frankly)and then once we ran into Aokji started getting to the intricacies and details (Tom, Iceburg, Gallya Company) and it just didn't go against anything already established.

Oda can decide things last minute and still have good payoffs. Reportedly, he came up with the supernovas last minute for Sabaody, as if to say the pasts of Doflamingo and Kuma were different when he first drew them in 2002.

I also believe did that with the Warlords if I remember correctly and then later kind of regretted it.

 

[Fox666]

Reportedly, he came up with the supernovas last minute for Sabaody, as if to say the pasts of Doflamingo and Kuma were different when he first drew them in 2002.

How so?

Doflamingo is a mix of domingo and flamingo, which implies him being a "god" was planned from the beggining. There were also many clues about his connection with the underworld, etc.

Kuma is based on Schwarzenegger, with a crosshair-shaped symbol on his clothing. So it's clear he was always intended to be a cyborg. He also carried a bible, which has only been explained recently.

 

[electricmastro]

How so?

Doflamingo is a mix of domingo and flamingo, which implies him being a "god" was planned from the beggining. There were also many clues about his connection with the underworld, etc.

Kuma is based on Schwarzenegger, with a crosshair-shaped symbol on his clothing. So it's clear he was always intended to be a cyborg. He also carried a bible, which has only been explained recently.

Because of Law and Bonney. Since they play big roles in their pasts, if they weren’t there in their pasts, then their motivations for doing certain things would have been different.

 

[Fox666]

Because of Law and Bonney. Since they play big roles in their pasts, if they weren’t there in their pasts, then their motivations for doing certain things would have been different.

Law isn't essential to Doflamingo's story.

I presume Kuma having a daughter was planned from the beggining, Oda simply hadn't decided she would be a Supernova.

 

[electricmastro]

Law isn't essential to Doflamingo's story.

I presume Kuma having a daughter was planned from the beggining, Oda simply hadn't decided she would be a Supernova.

Law is basically the reason Doflamingo killed his brother Rosinante, or is that not essential?

 

[Fox666]

Law is basically the reason Doflamingo killed his brother Rosinante, or is that not essential?

No, Rosinante was also a double agent.

 

[HereNThere]

Law and Bonney could've easily been introduced as arc specific characters ala Wiper and Rebecca and nothing would've changed in the grand scheme for Doffy or Kuma. Their early addition make for great world building and, in Bonney's case, contributed to the build up of one of the most emotionally impactful backstories in the series, but we didn't really need them to get the actual important story beats linked with those two Shichibukai. Take out Law and we still learn that Doffy is a Celestial Dragon, he's selling weapons to Kaido, and his fall leads to the dissolution of the Shichibukai. Take out Bonney and we still learn that Kuma is a Buccaneer and he's a former slave of the Celestial Dragons.

Oda is a great author, but he hasn't planned out every single detail like most think. However, he can still seemlessly folding in story changes retroactively and make them fit into the world he's building along the way.

 

[WILDCARD 1 7]

Law and Bonney could've easily been introduced as arc specific characters ala Wiper and Rebecca and nothing would've changed in the grand scheme for Doffy or Kuma. Their early addition make for great world building and, in Bonney's case, contributed to the build up of one of the most emotionally impactful backstories in the series, but we didn't really need them to get the actual important story beats linked with those two Shichibukai. Take out Law and we still learn that Doffy is a Celestial Dragon, he's selling weapons to Kaido, and his fall leads to the dissolution of the Shichibukai. Take out Bonney and we still learn that Kuma is a Buccaneer and he's a former slave of the Celestial Dragons.

Oda is a great author, but he hasn't planned out every single detail like most think. However, he can still seemlessly folding in story changes retroactively and make them fit into the world he's building along the way.

Agreed.

Like looking back at sabaody archipelago just by the scenes between Kizara and Kuma and even Sentomo, you can tell Oda did not have this part like there relationship that planned out.

 

[Kuroiyaiba]

Law isn't essential to Doflamingo's story.

I presume Kuma having a daughter was planned from the beggining, Oda simply hadn't decided she would be a Supernova.

But at least we can tell that he settled on Kuma‘s daughter being Bonny (and a Supernova) the moment he had every Supernova except for her engage one or more Pacifista in battle back on Sabaody.

 

[kkck]

Moria as a priest is an interesting thought, specially considering his meeting with kuma back in the thriller bark arc. If some of that survives of moria's past it could play into the final arc considering luffy's central role in many of the world's religions. Maybe there's also some imu-luffy foreshadowing in the battle between moria (shadow-dark) and luffy (now white).

 

[Kuroiyaiba]

The final section is the most relevant part for me personally and it‘s getting me hyped for what‘s about to come soon.
Guess said certain man is evil Shanks and who the one shaking up the world is, is obvoius to me, Zehahaha.