One Piece Mega Convo Thread, the 1st Chapter

[Gecko Moria]

Re: One Piece Mega Convo Thread

Yeah, I thought about that as well ... should investigate amazon.co.jp xD

Yeah you should, if you want to improve your Japanese language skills or own something that's Japanese get some Japanese manga! I think reading manga and watching anime has improved my Japanese a lot.

i know there are stores in the US that sell manga in jap.

No doubt. Those manga in Japanese were most likely imported from Japan to sell to Japanese living in America or to Americans who want to read "traditional" manga.

 

[Lord Rayleigh]

Re: One Piece 549 Discussion/ 550 Predictions Thread

Dragon would be all like "I'm gonna cause this great revolution and lots of people will die but it will be for the good of the world."

From what we know, Dragon fights against marines, soldiers, and members of the WG and the kingdoms linked to the WG. So, the people that will die with the revolution will not be civilians as Dragon seems to fight directly against the WG. Then, I do not think it will be a problem for Luffy to see marines and revolutionaries fight.
If anything had to cause problems between Dragon and Luffy, it could be an incident between Luffy and revolutionaries. But to make Dragon and Luffy fight, he must not be just an incident between Luffy and a commander of the revolutionaries (that would be cruel or something like that) : it must be because Luffy is a threat to the revolution or/and Luffy disagree with the revolution.
Then, if they had to clash, I suppose Dragon would have achieved his goal or would be about to achieve it. Thus, Luffy would fight him because he disagrees with Dragon's ideals/goals and wants to prevent them.
As I said Dragon's means to spread the revolution seems fine as the revolutionaries fight against WG and not populations.

The thing that bothers me the most is, as Luffy will be later in NW, how and why is he going to meet revolutionaries or people linked to the WG (Dr Vegapunk, Sentoumarou etc ...) ?
They are not supposed to be on the NW as revolutionaries must take control of the WG's area and as the WG's area is out of the NW (four continents and first part of GL). That means Vegapunk, the best scientist of the WG that I suppose the SH will meet is not in the hazardous NW : that would be illogical knowing the NW is under the control of the Yonkou and knowing the WG wants to protect Vegapunk to get his knowledges.
Then, what will make revolutionaries and members of the WG be in the NW ?

Maybe, after the war between WB and the WG, the revolutionaries will begin to take control of the four continents and little by little of the first part of Grand Line. That means the revolutionaries would push the WG towards the NW.
Then, Luffy would meet members of the WG in the NW because of the government-in-exile.
Otherwise, I do not understand why the WG would let his best scientist in the NW, an hazardous territory.
And maybe, the revolution will want to spread into NW and Luffy will have to stop it and so, fights Dragon.

 

[Drmke]

Re: One Piece 549 Discussion/ 550 Predictions Thread

From what we know, Dragon fights against marines, soldiers, and members of the WG and the kingdoms linked to the WG. So, the people that will die with the revolution will not be civilians as Dragon seems to fight directly against the WG. Then, I do not think it will be a problem for Luffy to see marines and revolutionaries fight.
If anything had to cause problems between Dragon and Luffy, it could be an incident between Luffy and revolutionaries.

That's true but what if Dragon and the WG end up fighting someplace with civilians which would more than likely happen. I wouldn't put it past the WG to do that to handicap Dragon to make it easier for them to take him down.

 

[Gecko Moria]

Re: One Piece 549 Discussion/ 550 Predictions Thread

it seems I was right for at least one person :-)
Personnaly, I don't see why Shiryuu would be a Zoro dedicated opponent. This is only based on the theory that Blackbeard will be the final oponent and that each strawhat will have a Blackbeard crew equivalent. Honnestly this prediction will occur in a too long time so that we can give it too much credit, we don't even know what will happen to Blackbeard in Impel Down.
Zoro-Mihawk rematch is completely different, like Rayleigh said there was a promise made, and Oda is not someone to take promise lightly

Why don't you see Shiryuu as being an opponent for Zoro? Zoro's a swordman and Shiryuu's a swordsman, it makes sense for them to battle each other. It's not just because of the Blackbeard theory. Zoro vs. Mihawk will obviously occur somewhere in the not-too-distant future. IMO Zoro still has some ways to go before he can challenge Mihawk again.

I honestly don't want bb to be the final last great enemy, hes kinda lame imo but what i really mean is i don't want luffy and co to be confined to 1 group as that last great foe, cause as you can see bb couldn't even take magellan and i want luffys greatest enemy to be greater than that so that when he defeats him luffy will be even greater.

Blackbeard was unevenly matched against Magellan, just like Luffy. Basically, any character that relies on close combat attacks will lose against Magellan as they are forced to make contact with Magellan's poison body. What's wrong with the Strawhats having one group as the final opponent. The greatest rivalries are built up over a length of time. Blackbeard is similar to Luffy and at the same time different. They both have the Will of D, have the same ambition etc. but they have different opinions about dreams and morals etc.Why do you consider Blackbeard to be "lame"?

BB to me is a strong char...but like c0nflikt stats, he's not really final battle material to me, just my opinion

Could you possibly explain the reasoning behind your opinion?

BTW: The official thread for "Who will be the final opponent?"

 

[Lord Rayleigh]

Re: One Piece 549 Discussion/ 550 Predictions Thread

That's true but what if Dragon and the WG end up fighting someplace with civilians which would more than likely happen. I wouldn't put it past the WG to do that to handicap Dragon to make it easier for them to take him down.

Actually, even such a situation happens, Luffy will probably not move : Luffy is only interested in his own adventure. He does not have to provide justice in the world, that is more the job of Coby, that is more marine's ideals.
Luffy only provides his own justice, which is good, when he meets the bad guys and decided to stop it as it bothers his adventure. So, as Luffy would not be there, he would not stop it.

Luffy could clash with Dragon if the revolution had to spread in NW and it bothers him for his adventure.
That is often the fate of a revolution to try to spread everywhere. Indeed, with the French Revolution, after the revolutionaries took control in France, they wanted to spread the Revolution to Europe, what explained why France was in war against Europe even before Napoleon took control of France.

 

[Katz]

Re: One Piece 549 Discussion/ 550 Predictions Thread

Could you possibly explain the reasoning behind your opinion?

Sure can....I don't like the char, he reminds me too much of luffy, besides the diff. in devil fruits, they both have the same mannerisms, dream chasers and so forth, but thats just me, this is an open forum for anyone to spread their view onto others, take it or leave iT ^^

 

[Gecko Moria]

Re: One Piece 549 Discussion/ 550 Predictions Thread

Sure can....I don't like the char, he reminds me too much of luffy, besides the diff. in devil fruits, they both have the same mannerisms, dream chasers and so forth, but thats just me, this is an open forum for anyone to spread their view onto others, take it or leave iT ^^

Technically, their similarities make like even more likely that Blackbeard is the final opponent. However, this is an open forum where everyone is free to share their ideas so I respect your opinion

 

[Drmke]

Re: One Piece 549 Discussion/ 550 Predictions Thread

Probably won't happen but I wanna see Luffy fight Shanks at the end of the series. I don't know why they would fight (over One Piece maybe?) but it would be awesome lol

 

[Katz]

Re: One Piece 549 Discussion/ 550 Predictions Thread

I could see luffy fighting shanks, a hostile fight, NO, but maybe some type of spar match sure, I want a flash back of BB vs. shanks, I know he scared shanks on his eye, but I wanna know if shanks walked away the victor in the end

 

[Lee-tyme7]

Re: One Piece 549 Discussion/ 550 Predictions Thread

i hope zorro gets 2 more new swords because the 2 he has now will not be enough to stand against mihawk

Yeah, I know watcha mean. I'm hoping he'd become like Tashigi and go around the world collecting those legendary swords. That's doesn't sound bad whenever he need a strong sword to his advantage; say fire or lightning element; or whatever status the swords has he could switch out for it and do battle, plus when one breaks again he'd have extras. lol.

 

[camil222]

Re: One Piece 549 Discussion/ 550 Predictions Thread

ya ive always thought shanks was gonna go against luffy for one piece at the end of the series. people say the last fight wiill be luffy vs bb, well i say its luffy vs shanks. because of the promise he made him when he was younger, that hed become a better pirate than shanks and that his crew would surpass his.

and i really doubt zoro will get new swords, he definately doesnt need any swords, its not the sword that makes the swordsman, its his skills, and his haki.

 

[Skyrius]

Re: One Piece 549 Discussion/ 550 Predictions Thread

You know, the only way I could ever imagine Zoro fighting Shiryuu in an epic who will be the strongest fight would have to be en route to his fight with Mihawk. 500+ chapters of hype doesn't just die that easily for me. I support the idea that Shiryuu would lose a fight with Mihawk, but just barely, making him a gauge for whether or not Zoro is ready to face Mihawk.

 

[Kako]

Re: One Piece 549 Discussion/ 550 Predictions Thread

Zoro needs to learn some great guard, dodging moves. because he really takes hard hits imo

 

[Mr Coffee]

Re: One Piece 549 Discussion/ 550 Predictions Thread

ya ive always thought shanks was gonna go against luffy for one piece at the end of the series. people say the last fight wiill be luffy vs bb, well i say its luffy vs shanks. because of the promise he made him when he was younger, that hed become a better pirate than shanks and that his crew would surpass his.

Errr, i doubt that the man who gave up an arm for a kid that saw such great hope in would be willing to fight him for One Piece.
Shanks would rather give that up to Luffy to lead a new age of pirates than take it for himself.

 

[Mugiwara_no_Jack]

Re: One Piece 549 Discussion/ 550 Predictions Thread

Zoro is only bound to Luffy as long as he follows the path to become strongest swordsman. To achieve that goal he even took Luffys pain so that they could continue.

Yeah in the beginning was it like that.
He said if Luffy does something what interferes him with his dream - becoming the greatest swordsman in the world - then he leaves the crew. So we can say up to TB Arc this partnership can considered as temporal.

But with the whole taking-Luffy's-pain-thing it changed.
Zoro took the pain in order to save his captain and pretend him from death.
Zoro forgot for that moment his dream and want to make sure Luffy can archieve his goal.
That had nothing to do with gaining more experience or getting stronger.

Spoiler

 

[bittman]

Re: One Piece Mega Convo Thread

Geez, knowing Oda, Zoro could fight Mihawk and be the world's greatest swordsman halfway through the New World.

How Shiryuu will factor into everything is to figure out later. The next thing I want to know about Blackbeard and crew is what the world-shaking incident will be. It's gotta be a level 6'er, and I would like to hazard a guess towards it being related to the ancient weapons.

...And I hope it's a woman, Blackbeard's crew needs a woman.

 

[Organizized]

Re: One Piece Mega Convo Thread

A female level 6'er, ehhh? Might you be talking about Catarina Devon, the "most dangerous woman ever to be imprisoned in Impel Down"?

Come to think of it, it never says she's the strongest or most dangerous in fighting and stuff, so she might be in there because she is somehow connected to the ancient weapons. It's convenient (for me, in my wild speculations) that Iva also mentions, a couple of pages before (here and here), that level six prisoners have caused incidents that the government has seen fit to cover up, or incidents inconvenient to the government itself. I do suppose if this Catarina-character knew how to build/handle/whatever the ancient weapons which is said to be able to destroy whole islands, it seems fit that she would be labeled the most dangerous woman, and I'm pretty sure that would be both inconvenient for the WG and worth covering up completely.

I mean, I'm just speculating wildly here, late at night (how is that significant?), but there's a small chance.. Just came to think of it when you mentioned a female pirate in Impel Down. Oh, well, this was a good way to get tired. Goodnight.

 

[bittman]

Re: One Piece Mega Convo Thread

Heh that's ok. A few people have already guessed at the three names Iva-san mentioned, but I'd prefer it to be an unknown quantity that was dangerous beyond the World Government's expectations.

Could be Catarina, though I'd hope she's definitely "dangerous" and not just "powerful".

Could be another name we know but would never expect, but on the other hand it could be a completely new name that we all go "eh?" and then everyone in One Piece goes "O_O!".

I doubt we'll know until after this arc ends.

 

[chess4]

Re: One Piece 549 Discussion/ 550 Predictions Thread

does anyone think tht the strawhats will have any new crew members when this invasion is over or before they reach fishman island

i think ace is prime(if he lives of course). also i think smoker nad his 2nd in command are perfect fits as well. smoker dislike the governing body of the WG, and i think he is on the borderline of becoming a pirate. maybe he helps luffy out during this arc, since he owes luffy one for saving his life

 

[happy GIN smily]

Re: One Piece 549 Discussion/ 550 Predictions Thread

there is no way that Ace would join his younger brothers crew. everybody who has a brother will aggree on this.
it would be a shame for him

btw WB would never let Ace go

about Smoker:
what you posted is very interresting. back then when Dragon saved Luffy, it looked like they were old pals. so Smoker might be connected to the Revolutionary Army