One Piece Mega Convo Thread, the 2nd Chapter

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, Haki is a strong technique, but admirlas can some what know when to dodge the attack (Aokiji opening an hole in his chest before WB Haki embued bisento hitted him)...

But imagin 20 warriors firing arrows from every angle.. not even Aokiji would be able to dodge that... he would have to find a way to block it!
We've seen Luffy run away from a whole bunch of warriors easily and admiral shouldn't have any trouble with that... especialy if he was willing to kill, which Luffy wasn't, he was just running away

His DF, just as almost every woman DF in the history.. is wicked, and pure hax... Just see Perona, Boney, Kalifa, Alvida...
This is quite interesting, never acured to me, I just put her in the hax df drawer, Robin's df is pretty hax too, wonder if the pattern will continue :) I'll be watching out for it from now on :)


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Just something I would like to know:
When is Golden weak
First week of May
 

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Well Vivi wasn't even surprised when Nico joined.. so why would he be upset that Croc joined...

He would be a little pissed of.. but it wouldn't be a reason for her to hate Luffy!
Indeed, she'll never hate Luffy (ever) :)
but Nico was a special case, and Vivi's father helped her with she wanted to die,
besides, he saw that she never thought on giving Croco what he wants and that she was only used by him (and/or using him).
we saw that Vivi can control her emotion very well, but I don't think ... she's gonna smile and act friendly with Croco xd (the man bastard who tortured her daddy and made her beloved people fight each others). :grin
 

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And Nico was holding the door while her father was tortured and his friends killed!

Luffy had much place to run.. and he is a monkey (pun not intended), so he hadn't trouble hanging on high buildings...
But in a bout.. completly surrounded.. and with Boa there.. no Aokiji would survive..
 

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And Nico was holding the door while her father was tortured and his friends killed!
And Nami was there when people got blackmailed by Arlong etc. It's not like she did it herself, they were acting to the situation, like under cover.^^

Croc has his own ambitions, his own dreams to become Pirate King, his grudge against Luffy and otherwise, won't let them fight together again.

Were those imbued haki arrows or just enhanced ones? Can't remember now. Makes a big difference, as the first ones would be harmful, he should be able do block the second ones.
 

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Hancock is REALLY strong. Even Sengoku says she is "very strong" and he is probably the most powerful man in the WG (yeah I know some people say he is just a tactician but I don't think that's true I mean Tsuru is strictly a tactician and she hasn't moved up in rank in over 20 years. And he also said he was going to deal with WB personally but all the VAs and Akainu stepped in instead). Also of note is that she is the youngest of the Shichibukai and called the "Pirate Empress" and that is one hell of a title (and I think a little foreshadowing as we all know Luffy will the Pirate King and Pirate Empress is just a synonym for Pirate Queen).
 

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I think they were Haki enhanced arrows.. if they are enhanced they're embued... I think..
 

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Well... starting from Boa's crew:

I think they're pretty strong.. Luffy without gears couldn't keep up with the top 2 speed.. and they're sneaky...
While I know haki isn't a response for everything.. like sharingan, that should be rare but is more comon in Naruto, than Spam in this forum, Haki is a strong technique, but admirlas can some what know when to dodge the attack (Aokiji opening an hole in his chest before WB Haki embued bisento hitted him)...

But imagin 20 warriors firing arrows from every angle.. not even Aokiji would be able to dodge that... he would have to find a way to block it!

And there is the ouka shishibukai Boa Hancock... wich is underated by everyone in this forum...
Cause people eyes don't turn into hearts while seeing her... everyone who likes girls, will admire her beauty...
Just look to Momonga.. he was serious as hell... but he needed to stab himself to survive!

An admiral would do that pretty well... but you know... if she taked off is dress... I don't know if any of them would resist!
And there is slave arrow.. wich turns even canon balls to stone...
His DF, just as almost every woman DF in the history.. is wicked, and pure hax... Just see Perona, Boney, Kalifa, Alvida...

But he controls Haoshoku Haki.. and he didn't even needed it till now.. so in terms of power he is probably in the top 20 of the series.. Top wich Luffy, Moria, Lucci, or the vice admirals(Garp out.. obviously) aren't even near...!



Aokiji's Jump was a normal Jump.. he just lett pieces of Ice behind cause he was in his elemental form when he jumped.. we already know that logias have 2 forms right?



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Just something I would like to know:
When is Golden weak
hate to break it to you my friend. luffy is not one of the top 20 character as far as power in one piece.:p after he gets some type of control on his haki, then yea.

im sure next chapter we will get reaction from his burst thoughh
 

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Iwas taking about boa hancock -_-'
I even said he wasn't near O_O
Just made a typo and the s of SHE wasn't typed!
 

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Iwas taking about boa hancock -_-'
I even said he wasn't near O_O
Just made a typo and the s of SHE wasn't typed!
o my fault:facepalm

this is torture..............i cant wait for spoilers. i sure hope my boy rayleigh shows up next chapter. he will eventually but i wanna see him next chapter.

off topic a bit, i wonder what rayleighs bounty is. its probably sumthing crazy like 6 billion berri
 

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No... I think the OP world is in inflaction (not sure if its nice spelled).. so today bounty's are far bigger than the ones in Roger's time.. and cause they're inactive pirates, they didn't actualize the prices..
So 50B in Roger time is the same as 100B in Shichi's Piracy time = 300B now.. thats what justify's Croc and Jinbei's small bounty! xD
 

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I will repeat myself but : you guys are seriously overestimating Hancock.

True she can turn almost everybody into stone, but it can be dodged and we know that there are a lot of guys with enough speed to dodge it. Her beauty/charm is a little like the king Haki, it makes your weak minded enemies obedient (or something similar) but strong willed guys are much less affected (but enough to be turned into stone if they are hit her main power). She has haki, yes, but you can overtake it, see Aokiji or even Luffy against the boa sisters. Perfume femur, right, but it's clear if she is really speedy, again, guys fairly strong (even in SH crew) can surely dodge her hits.

Yes Sengoku said she is strong, of course he would say that, turning people into stone+mastering haki makes you very dangerous. But too strong for the SH crew ? Not for everybody in the crew.
 

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Gatsuga.. I'm seeing your POV but I steel think it isn't that easy...
the "Mero Mero Merrow" isn't something dodgeable.. as it is imediate, unless you can gess and dodge as soon as he does the gest.. or you're light..

Strong willed persons, that are not completely ****** (like sanji), sure won't be all "he is so beaaaauuuttiffuuull" but they will be affected..

And to measure is power with Luffy's:
She destroyed a px with on it... (Luffy needed (one of) the most destructive attack of his wide choice of attacks to destroy one)
She isn't even with damage lines, and he is in this war..
She hasn't used Haoshoku, wich he has mastered, and is, by far, her most effective abbility (a bit of speculation)...
She hasn't used is snake... the tool nr 1 for the rest of the Kuja's!!

So you shouldn't kudge a boock by whats written in the back cover (couse the cover is the most beautifull thing I've ever seen)
 
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Still looking out for the former cp9 to take revenge on WG!
I think that will happen later in the story. There's a possibility that they could have their own pirate crew and start with revenge. Considering their knowledge of WG they would be a huge help for Revolutionaries. Oda doesn't forget about his characters, that's for sure.

Heh, it's funny. It never occurred to me that Dragon could have been a member of CP9 too.
Good Idea! How about this, CP9 is actually on their next mission... infiltrating the Revolutionaries. I was thinking that I didn't really understand why they rebelled against the WG and why would the Marines send some wimpy marines against them. I think it is because it is a ploy. CP9 has experience on long-term missions to achieve almost impossible goals. They are probably going to make a show of fighting off the marines and work their way into the Revolution over years and then... they are primarily assassins so maybe they are after the head-honcho himself, Dragon?
 

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THOSE SCHEMY BASTARDS!
 

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Good Idea! How about this, CP9 is actually on their next mission... infiltrating the Revolutionaries. I was thinking that I didn't really understand why they rebelled against the WG and why would the Marines send some wimpy marines against them.
They rebelled because they came to reason after they all were defeated by the Mugiwaras - and left for dead. If Bruno didn't rescue them with his Door Door abilities they would have died in the Buster Call attack while Spandam always were free to go. They were betrayed by their own troops, which is quite a strong reason for being full of hatred.

And the Marines/WG only sent "wimpy marines" after them because they didn't think they needed force to bring them back to service.

I think it is because it is a ploy. CP9 has experience on long-term missions to achieve almost impossible goals. They are probably going to make a show of fighting off the marines and work their way into the Revolution over years and then... they are primarily assassins so maybe they are after the head-honcho himself, Dragon?
Unless Spandam and his daddy establish a new CP9 that plan won't be realised - not with Lucci and his team since they deserted.

Luffy crushed Lucci's dream of becoming an assassin, rendering their main mission to get Pluton and Nico Robin as a complete failure. They fled from the Marines searching for them, they brought Lucci to a doctor that didn't have any affiliation with neither the WG nor the Marines, and broke up ties with Spandam through the Den Den...

And actually, they have already been after Dragon himself and tried to assassin him... Their mission carried out by Fukuro, Kumadori and Jabura was a failure. They've been talking about that when those three were introduced in the manga...

Iwas taking about boa hancock -_-'
I even said he wasn't near O_O
Just made a typo and the s of SHE wasn't typed!
Oh... I thought you intended to say Hancock was an Okama... and my mind was shouting out

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO~O!

all the time. ;)
 
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http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/375/15/
Well, they say "rebellion leader", that could be just a local rebellion, not related to the revolutionaries...
Never again I'll trust a Edited Manga ... the RAW says 革命軍 支部長 暗殺 計画 which is the "Revolutionary Army (革命軍) Subdivision Chief (支部長) Assassination (暗殺) Plan (計画)"... So it is very unlikely that they went straight on to get Dragon killed.

Thanks for making me look it up. ;)
 

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Good Idea! How about this, CP9 is actually on their next mission... infiltrating the Revolutionaries. I was thinking that I didn't really understand why they rebelled against the WG and why would the Marines send some wimpy marines against them. I think it is because it is a ploy. CP9 has experience on long-term missions to achieve almost impossible goals. They are probably going to make a show of fighting off the marines and work their way into the Revolution over years and then... they are primarily assassins so maybe they are after the head-honcho himself, Dragon?
That's a nice idea too, but then the conversation between Lucci and Spandam wouldn't make sense. If Spandam wasn't in on the mission, then why try to convince him at all? That phone call or confrontation with Marines wouldn't make sense unless they were being watched and monitored by Revolutionaries.
 
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