One Piece Mega Convo Thread, the 2nd Chapter

[Bugzee]

I think we'll see more of the Gorousei once this war ends. Whether the marines win or not, the Gorousei will be even more important to the WG from now on....imo

Hopefully, we'll get formal introductions to the members of the Gorousei very soon

 

[chess4]

i cant wait until the strawhats get back together...............usopp is still the best strawhat

http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/399/02-03


hopefully we get introductions on the gorousei soon. speaking of that the people we have names on in the series but havent seen are:

dadan
vegapunk
kaidou

people we have seen but no names and are the gorousei and the last yonkou.

im sure oda will introduce new characters too. i just hope he hanst used a the good fruit powers

 

[Bugzee]

I think the way in which this war will end will have a huge influence in the order of new character's that Oda will reveal to us *if that makes sense lol *

Out of Dadan, Vegapunk & Kaidou...I think the last person we'll see is Kaidou unless WB falls and we get a scene where Shanks finds out the news with Kaidou still in battle or something like that.

I say the order will be...the Gorousei, Vegapunk, Dadan & finally Kaidou

 

[deffkryz]

Since I'm pretty tired and don't want to go off-topic any further in the Chapter thread, I'll answer here.

Silver rayleigh definitely doesn't have the King's haki, he was second in command, it just wouldn't fit with the series i don't think.

Well... It sorta looks like Shanks' and Luffy knocking out and frightening off their enemies when Rayleigh knocked Charlia-guu unconscious and after that the rest of the guarding troops. And knocking out weak characters is apparently some kind of the "signature move" for this ability. Denying this IMHO is like saying:

• Hiken is not the signature move that gave Ace his epithet or
• Mugiwara is not Luffy's epithet because of the strawhat since Oars isn't named Kasa no Oars or Shanks wasn't named Mugiwara no Shanks...

This is actually one of the clearest parallels that has been placed into the whole manga by Odacchi-sensei. It's clearer than to determine which attack Luffy used in chapter 570 (GGn Muchi or GGnStamp or GGnAxe)...

 

[Junaid_Sennin]

chess4: Dragon is ugly as hell. Luffy and Garp aren't exactly Bishis, but Garp looks strong and manly, and I guess Luffy's good looking, even though he looks like a kid.

beastboy: I agree, I think Hancock is very strong, and I think Oda mislead us with Croc and Moria into underestimating the level of the Shichibukai. Mihawk is in the top tier, since he's the strongest swordsmen and as far as we know he's like Zoro and gets his strength only from swordsmanship. Jinbei (I know, he's not one anymore) was equal to Ace, and is probably stronger now than he was back then. Blackbeard is one of the strongest seen so far. Kuma is ridiculously strong, he's (nearly) indestructable, shoots lasers, can teleport instantly and deals big damage. I have a lot to say about Doflamingo, which I'll save for a later post, but he scares me the most. Croc isn't weak, he's one of the most skilled devil fruit users revealed so far in that he's mastered his use of his fruit to a very high level. Moria I just don't like, but I can't really call him weak. What I'm trying to say is, because Luffy beat two of them, I thought they were overrated, but damn, they really are at the top too.

Smoker: I think if he gets promoted (I don't see why he would, he hasn't done anything great yet, he let Luffy get away, no excuse just because hancock got involved, the marines won't care), I think it'll be to rear admiral, not vice admiral. He's good, but maybe not that good yet. When the war started I thought Luffy was vice admiral level, but I dunno. Maybe he is, it's hard to say since he never fought one before.

Enel: I also think he'll make a return. Shichibukai? Doubt it, he wants to rule all and wouldn't pledge fealty to the marines. I'd love to see him become a pirate, have his bounty skyrocket by beating strong new world pirates, run into the Straw Hats and get owned. He may be better prepared now but still, Luffy also got stronger. It would make Luffy's rep shoot through the roof, even with those who understand that Luffy's ability gave him the edge.

I don't think Kuma was a Revolutionary, but I think he was friends with them, or at least with Iva. Plus, when he was introduced they said he was the shichibukai most loyal to the WG, plus now he's a complete pacifista. Makes me think the WG or Vegapunk had something they could use to make him obey them, like threatening someone or something dear to him.

Gorosei - I also wanna know more about them. One of them had a huge sword with the same guard and hilt as the Kitetsu swords, and when I first noticed this I suspected it may be Shodai Kitetsu. It's possible, since such a powerful and influential man could easily get a hold of something so rare and valuable.

Dadan intrigues me the most!!! I wanted more flashbacks so we could see him/her.

Kaidou I can wait for.

I suspect one of the remaining too Yonkou is Lola's mom (I know someone already said this, just throwing it in there coz I thought so too, and Kaidou reminded me).

 

[M.D.Ace]

is it me or i there isent much to smokers logia...wtf can you do with smoke

and garp is rogers brother

 

[elitefox]

is it me or i there isent much to smokers logia...wtf can you do with smoke

and garp is rogers brother

yeah you can't do much with smoke like you can't do much with rubber

but hey, they are a bunch of creative characters and there is oda to help them to think of new attacks


is there a reference in what you are stating... garp is roger's bro?

 

[M.D.Ace]

no reference but it all makes sense now.. where everybody was theorising garp is rogers dad or dragon is rogers brother everybody forgot the possibility of garp being rogers bro. they both look around the same age. garp always wanted to be the one to chase down roger. garp was the only one roger trusted.. all makes sense

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and i just thought.. luffy is kind of like a logia in a way right. cause no physical attacks can touch him apart from haki based ones. the only thing is that swords effect luffy aswel but that is like the only thing

 

[elitefox]

no reference but it all makes sense now.. where everybody was theorising garp is rogers dad or dragon is rogers brother everybody forgot the possibility of garp being rogers bro. they both look around the same age. garp always wanted to be the one to chase down roger. garp was the only one roger trusted.. all makes sense
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and i just thought.. luffy is kind of like a logia in a way right. cause no physical attacks can touch him apart from haki based ones. the only thing is that swords effect luffy aswel but that is like the only thing

He will be logia if and only if he can reattach his body parts again after being cut into pieces... as much as I know, that is the most distinguishable attribute of logia

 

[hdiuy]

is it me or i there isent much to smokers logia...wtf can you do with smoke

Choke someone,fill your enemies body with smoke leaving your enemy breathless, fire it at high pressure, form a shape and whack your foe, change shape into some creature and whack your foe, send your smokes into your enemies body etc etc.

 

[deffkryz]

no reference but it all makes sense now.. where everybody was theorising garp is rogers dad or dragon is rogers brother everybody forgot the possibility of garp being rogers bro. they both look around the same age. garp always wanted to be the one to chase down roger. garp was the only one roger trusted.. all makes sense

Yeah... Just like those Naruto plotholes... So Luffy and Coby are brothers as well making Coby another son of Dragon?

and i just thought.. luffy is kind of like a logia in a way right. cause no physical attacks can touch him apart from haki based ones. the only thing is that swords effect luffy aswel but that is like the only thing

Okay, to get this right:

The Gomu Gomu no Mi did not grant Logia powers to Luffy but Paramecia. This has already been stated in the data book "One Piece Yellow" since 2007.

 

[Junaid_Sennin]

Smoker is totally using his powers the wrong way. He should just fill his enemy's lungs with smoke until they pass out, cuff them and rescuscitate (spelling?) them before they die. There are very few people this would not work on. Though Oda probably refrained from this method so Smoker wouldn't be too overpowered. Smoker is supposed to be Luffy's Garp (I know Coby will eventually take that role, but right now Coby's still too weak).

On a side note, this reminds me of why I hate Magellan. Poison is one of the most broken abilities in any action shonen manga, or other manga/anime/cartoons/comics where people exhibit powers and fighting styles.

Almost no one is immune to poison. You can kill nearly everyone, it's so cheap. That's why I hate Magellen, Kurotsuchi Mayuri (I hate him for many reasons, but I hate his abilities because of this) and...there's someone else... I dunno, but all poison users are cheap.

They're definitely strong (mostly), but it's such a boring, non flashy ability.

 

[deffkryz]

C'mon guys... From where do you get those "That's how Oda should do his manga!" ideas?

Smoker is totally using his powers the wrong way. He should just fill his enemy's lungs with smoke until they pass out, cuff them and rescuscitate (spelling?) them before they die.

How... boring... Why didn't Crocodile dry Luffy from inside out when Luffy used the Gomu Gomu no Baku Baku on him?!

Oh-oh wait... Why don't Kizaru, Eneru and Aokiji use similiar "slip-into-bodies-and-use-the-powers-there" attacks? To slip inside some elses body is disgraceful - it contradicts most of the characters' conception and is in most situations completely unnecessary.

And lungs aren't just two balloons... Once some smoke gets inside you have to cough to get it out. How should Smoker prevent others from coughing him out? Give them a smoke first? Forcing himself into his enemies lungs may also provoke medical risks to those opponents - Smoker isn't the one to kill his opponents - he's more of a hunter that captures his prey.

There are very few people this would not work on.

Apparently, there are very few people this would actually work on since Oda would most likely put that. I'm sure, he never even wasted a thought about that.

On a side note, this reminds me of why I hate Magellan. Poison is one of the most broken abilities in any action shonen manga, or other manga/anime/cartoons/comics where people exhibit powers and fighting styles.

Well... Poison is just another material like wax - and it's pretty sneaky since it can still turn back on the one who's using it. Not even Magellan is immune to all aspects of his own power - he apparently eats different kinds of poisons to be able to use different types of poison, and greatly suffers from having diarrhea.

Almost no one is immune to poison. You can kill nearly everyone, it's so cheap.

But Luffy, Ivankov and Inazuma did not die, did they? Poison can still be neutralized or it is just simply ineffective.

 

[Bugzee]

I think Magellan's poison poison fruit is one the best in OP Even more now after I watched the anime episode where we first got a glimpse of how it looked like

I also would like to see Eneru again in the near future He had one of the dopest abilities ever!

 

[Marche]

I think Magellan's poison poison fruit is one the best in OP Even more now after I watched the anime episode where we first got a glimpse of how it looked like

I also would like to see Eneru again in the near future He had one of the dopest abilities ever!

In fact Magellan has the only DF that can kill also if him doesn't nothing (in fact is enough touch him, as Rufy doing with his hand and arm).

 

[Gcat88]

these are the fruits that make OP so interesting. fruits that would be incredibly powerful in other series in OP have weakness. i think the way marco is made is perfect. he could be unbeatable. instead he does feel pain and can even feel a punch. DFs are something that make OP different and truly genius.

P.S. finally a REAL discussion.

 

[Bugzee]

^ I agree Gcat88 DF's make OP very special!

Inazuma's DF ability is useful in so many ways I'm interested to see how it's used for offence attacks as oppose to defensive ones...

 

[Gcat88]

JDM you are so right. Inazuma is one of my favorite characters, and my favorite revolutionary. i think its like sports, its such a strong defense its a strong offense. i believe there are people in OP that are like that, or the opposite too.

 

[Kanarya]

About the Gorosei:

I also think that we will see the five old men soon, perhaps after the war at Marinford or even during the clash.
We all know about Blackbeard`s plans to shock the entire world and wouldnt it be very shocking, if he managed to kill the most powerful (at least politically) people in the One Piece World?

He might find something or someone in Impel Down to strenghten his crew and raise his power to a level, which would be enough to challenge the five.

We might see this fight, but it would also be possible that he suddenly appears in Marinford in a few chapters and uses his "Liberation" to throw the corpses (or better utterly defeated Gorosei, because they probably won`t be dead) on the ground.
Then he declares the start of the new era.


About Eneru:

I really can`t see him fighting the Strawhat Crew again, because Luffy already defeated him in a very long arc, but I can imagine him causing trouble somewhere far away from the Strawhats.

 

[elitefox]

^ I agree Gcat88 DF's make OP very special!

Inazuma's DF ability is useful in so many ways I'm interested to see how it's used for offence attacks as oppose to defensive ones...

if he can cut humans... or weapons like paper then it xan be offensive