One Piece Mega Convo Thread, the 2nd Chapter

[Kanarya]

Well, at least Luffy, Jimbei, Ivankov, the Newkama and Buggy with his crew will somehow escape and move on to Fishman Island in order to reach the New World.

Speaking of Fishmen, there`s something about Fisher Tiger that runs in my mind.

As we all know he climbed the Red Line with his bare hands to free the slaves in Mariejoa, but doesn`t this mean that another strong and determined (fish)man could do the same on the other side of the Red Line as well?

If point no.1 on this picture is the place, where the Strawhats entered the Grand Line, and if no.2 is Luffy`s current location, than point no.3 has to be the area where Raftel, the last island of the Grand Line, is.

Climbing the Red Line there would be a nice shortcut to One Piece, wouldn`t it?

 

[Fox666]

In One Piece saliors don't travel "randomly", they must have a map or log-pose. In fact, since the Marines can cross the calm belt, it should be even easier to reach Raftel.

If I am not wrong Raftel was called the "last Island" of the Grand Line, not the "end" of the Grand Line. It is possible that it is in the very middle of the New World. So it shouldn't be easy to find.

One Piece world is huge, I read somewere it was 4 times real world earth according to the author. So this mean that Raftel is basically in a place, New World, which length is two times that of the real world and the width probably like 1/5 of the real world (which is 1/20 of the One Piece world).

Not to say that if you not reach Raftel from the other side, which is a very blind shot, you end up in the Yonkou territory.

Also, there probably is some special requirement to reach Raftel. As if Skypeia or Fishman Island aren't already in strange locations?

 

[Lee-tyme7]

If point no.1 on this picture is the place, where the Strawhats entered the Grand Line, and if no.2 is Luffy`s current location, than point no.3 has to be the area where Raftel, the last island of the Grand Line, is.

Climbing the Red Line there would be a nice shortcut to One Piece, wouldn`t it?

That's about right. Make you wonder why they didn't just try to get across the other side in the first place. But according to Roger there's a secret to get to Raftel so we don't exactly know where it is. Maybe it's the tallest island in the world or it's in sky island? XD
And do you guys think Roger just buried the One Piece? It's couldn't be that lame and simple? or perhaps he must have buried it somewhere in a temple or shrine full of traps?

 

[Gcat88]

Well it isnt stated where at the end it is. it can be super north or thousands of miles away from the red line. Another thing, no one knows where it is so if you cross the other way you can travel forever till you find it, where if you come the proper way youll be able to spot things easier. Lastly, one of the things about becoming PK is you have to conquer the world AND find Raftel, if you find Raftel that doesnt mean you become PK.

 

[ScratchmenApoo]

Grand Line climate is extremely random at some points, it could even be worse in the New World. And as previously said, you can only reach island with a log pose, otherwise you would just get lost. Maybe the island before Raftel requires an extremely rare Log-pose (the ones that only point to one island) or it takes years for a regular one to adapt.
Also Luffy isn't in a hurry to find One Piece, he just wants to have a good adventure and that he will have if he just follows the log poses. When it is finally time to reach Raftel, so be it.

 

[daman246]

well how this is going bb gang has enough ppl to fight agaist straw hat crew

 

[fleurlolie]

well how this is going bb gang has enough ppl to fight agaist straw hat crew

When they will meet again Luffy would probably be strong enough to kick the crap out of that coward, he think he's the strongest now but getting 2 DFs won't change the fact of his weak defense. HAKI + GEAR 2&3 would be more than enough to take him down.

 

[Lee-tyme7]

When I read this again I dunno if WB and Roger were buddies or enemy? It seem like both.
http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/576-65/11

I remember in the Lougetown arc when Luffy stumble into a bar in the anime and the old man tells the story of Roger killing a Giant and Luffy was exited. I used to think at first maybe Roger used to be the bad guy and WB was the good one. Then they became buddies after they fought w/each others.

 

[fleurlolie]

When I read this again I dunno if WB and Roger were buddies or enemy? It seem like both.
http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/576-65/11

Probably there's a huge difference between the way pirates are these days and the way they were back then.

 

[Gcat88]

Its a matter of respect. You may hate the guy, he may be your rival, but you respect him. There are very few people that are like this today.

 

[Fox666]

In chapter "Luffy and Whitebeard", Whitebeard remember a flashback of Ace holding Luffy's bounty of 30,000,000.

But it was said that Teach attacked Drum Island months ago.

So, that mean that Ace started hunting Teach after the Arlong Park arc. If we assume that Ace had gone to hunt Teach right after they discovered he killed Thatch, that mean it passed months from Arlong Park to Drum Island arcs?

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This image DOES make me believe that Sengoku is a stone Logia:

 

[Lord Rayleigh]

In chapter "Luffy and Whitebeard", Whitebeard remember a flashback of Ace holding Luffy's bounty of 30,000,000.

But it was said that Teach attacked Drum Island months ago.

So, that mean that Ace started hunting Teach after the Arlong Park arc. If we assume that Ace had gone to hunt Teach right after they discovered he killed Thatch, that mean it passed months from Arlong Park to Drum Island arcs?

Do you have the page where it is said Teach went to Drum Island months ago ?

EDIT : we have no idea how much time passed between the day Teach killed Thatch and the day Ace left the WB pirates to hunt BB : when Ace showed Luffy's first bounty to WB, Teach might have already attacked Drum.

 

[DLord.Van.Buuren]

When they will meet again Luffy would probably be strong enough to kick the crap out of that coward, he think he's the strongest now but getting 2 DFs won't change the fact of his weak defense. HAKI + GEAR 2&3 would be more than enough to take him down.

actually the crap is going to be kicked out of luffy if they meet in the near futur . its probably their fate to not meet soon , luffy is no where near that BB .

 

[Katz]

^Luffy will only be a match for BB now (if him having the quake fruit is permanent) is to 100% master his haki, the punch he delivered to BB in ID is evidence enuff for me that, luffy with his mix of speed and compelete controlled haki can beat BB

 

[DLord.Van.Buuren]

it doesnt look like was joking when he made up his mind to take the gura fruit . remember that this fruit made whitebeard the strongest just imaging whitebeard whithout his fruit relying on haki only wont take him anywhere .
luffy wont be able to take BB down unless he comes up whith something other than haki and his DF .
maybe a gun and a sword just like roger

 

[Katz]

^Luffy isn't the weapon type IMO, he's shown no affinity for them since the start of the series (unless you count him cutting his own face open), I can't remember a part in the manga where he's utilzed a sword or gun, and personally I think Roger carried a gun and sword because he was a "typical pirate" that loved the whole image of a gun and blade (I'm a believer in that rogers had a yet to be known DF)

 

[DLord.Van.Buuren]

i forgot to add that was a joke . i agree with you on this and i meant that luffy should power up with something new and not average .

 

[Katz]

Personally I don't see what else he could really achieve at this point, I don't see room for a Gear 4 or its purpose, unless he as well can somehow get two DF powers, only thing (once again) is for luffy to master his haki.

 

[DLord.Van.Buuren]

well to be honest haki is the final solution has really boring i mean its interesting how oda tried to set up for haki power up but still thinking that after 1000 chapter (maybe) we're going to see haki only makes it kinda lame besides there is also a room for surprise .

 

[Gcat88]

There has to be something that Luffy will learn besides Haki. That means that because he learns Haki he can now defeat ALL the admirals and BB??? There has got to be either another Gear or some other type of power up.