One Piece Mega Convo Thread

[Fox666]

And in what cover did he foreshadow Ace's death?

This one:

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Plus we have a chapter that predicts Mihawk death in the future...

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[hokageji]

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According to the wikia this cover is part of a series called "SHs with animals". Sanji is asking for directions. The animal in this case in the crane.
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Chapter_124
I think it's a bit too far-fetched to think that this cover in particular hints to a Tsuru-Sanji connection. And in what cover did he foreshadow Ace's death?
A few chapters back some thought that Oda foreshadowed that Zou is the emerald city(Oz) because of the fact that Doflamingo is seen in a cover using a bunch of puppets that are reminiscent of the Wizard of Oz(Dorothy and co). Turns out Zou literally meaning elephant in Japanese, is an "island" on a giant elephant's back.
I think while Oda could leave some hints, it's a bit ridiculous to think that OP can be so predictable, that a cover would tell us about important plot points such as these.

When it comes to foreshadowing I believe Oda leaves hint inside the manga, if he ever does so. And when it comes to making predictions, it's best to rely on substantial info in the manga, not so much on covers which can be requests.

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Here's what the wikia page of Tsuru says about her name:


So while it is the crane, it can also hint to her ability, "to hang" which is specific to her DF, the Woshu Woshu no mi. Thanks to it she's able to "hang" people like if she was doing the laundry.

Some of the meaning of "つる:tsuru". As a noun it can be
鶴: a crane (bird)
蔓: a vine (plant)
As a verb
釣る: to fish
吊る: to hang

What's interesting is that according to the wikia Oda names his female characters after birds. Tsuru is one of them, so is Robin.

So it's not something unique to Tsuru

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Well of course, we don't absolulety know... but like Fox666 posted

Here we see Luffy holding Ace or Spades and Death in the other hand. The other pic refers to the cross and Zoro wearing a skuill symbolizing death.. the text also had some reference but i don't recollect what. is it too far fetched?? Yes, probably...

Is it worth discussing? Absolutely. Also, Doflamnigo's prediction could be on Emerald City, it doesn't have to be Zo.. we don't know what Oda has planned...

Tsuru being a crane is nice but its a little out there... if not for the secret part on his briefcase, I would be less suspective..

 

[Fox666]

Zoro has a skull on his shirt and is sitting on a gravestone. His shirt has "mejor" written on it, which means best in Spanish. Mihawk title is of the best greatest swordsmen in the world and has the appearance of a Spanish swordsmen. And you have the crucifix on the chest is similar to the style of Mihawk sword.

 

[Notice me Escanor senpai]

Zoro has a skull on his shirt and is sitting on a gravestone. His shirt has "mejor" written on it, which means best in Spanish. Mihawk title is of the best greatest swordsmen in the world and has the appearance of a Spanish swordsmen. And you have the crucifix on the chest is similar to the style of Mihawk sword.

His shirt features a Spanish saying actually, it's "Quien rie el ultimo rie mejor" which translates to "He who laughs last laughs longest".
Nothing that remotely hints to Mihawk's death. Do I need to remind you that they're pirates, that's why it's not uncommon for them to wear skulls and such?
I already tried to explain that cover in one of my reviews, if there is a hint then it must be the number on the gravestone Zoro is sitting on:944.

As for Ace and his death being foreshadowed in that cover, it is really really far-fetched for me. If you notice they're playing a card game where the loser is the one who gets the Joker normally, or in this case Brook's card. The fact that Luffy has an Ace in his hand doesn't prove much to me.
Well that's how I feel about it, personally I prefer to go with something more substantial when it comes to foreshadowing. In Sanji's case we could see his meeting with Duval and the comments made by Usopp and maybe even Robin as a foreshadowing. The rest I'm very skeptical about.

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When we talk about Wano and Swords, it's always includes Zoro getting a new one. Would be nice if Brook got a sword too, or was the one to get a sword.

I believe he might have already changed swords, his current one Soul Solid was only named till after the time-skip so it's possible he could have gotten it only then.Besides his type of sword is a bit different, it ressembles fencing swords more, while the Samurai of Wano are traditionally seen carrying katanas.So he might not find what he's looking for there.
When it comes to swords, I'm really starting to think that having higher grade swords won't make much of a difference, because of Haki. If someone becomes proficient in Armament Haki, he can pretty much expect his swords to never break, as stated by Mihawk. So it doesn't matter that much if it's a meitou or just a nameless sword.

 

[Hannibal Psyche]

I believe he might have already changed swords, his current one Soul Solid was only named till after the time-skip so it's possible he could have gotten it only then.Besides his type of sword is a bit different, it ressembles fencing swords more, while the Samurai of Wano are traditionally seen carrying katanas.So he might not find what he's looking for there.
When it comes to swords, I'm really starting to think that having higher grade swords won't make much of a difference, because of Haki. If someone becomes proficient in Armament Haki, he can pretty much expect his swords to never break, as stated by Mihawk. So it doesn't matter that much if it's a meitou or just a nameless sword.

Fair point there, didn't think of that.

 

[Notice me Escanor senpai]

Fair point there, didn't think of that.

Well it's not impossible for him to change swords, for example if it were to break. We have yet to see Brook use Haki so it's not like he's completely safe in that regard.But in the case of Wano, I doubt he'll find what he's looking for there.
Alternatively Brook could strengthen the sword with his own soul, the soul is immortal.He already uses the abilities of his DF to freeze his opponents, it would be interesting if he could somehow strengthen the sword with it.

 

[Fox666]

When it comes to swords, I'm really starting to think that having higher grade swords won't make much of a difference, because of Haki. If someone becomes proficient in Armament Haki, he can pretty much expect his swords to never break, as stated by Mihawk. So it doesn't matter that much if it's a meitou or just a nameless sword.

I wouldn't take Mihawk speech as literal. If an armor imbued with Haki can break, a sword sure can. It all depends on the level of Haki and the sword itself.

 

[hokageji]

Sanji's case we could see his meeting with Duval and the comments made by Usopp and maybe even Robin as a foreshadowing. The rest I'm very skeptical about.

Well, I see your point. I think the only substantial conclusion from that cover would be Sanji having a secret, as he is holding a briefcase with those words written... But it could be anything, or even nothing...

 

[Fox666]

I am more tempted to believe that we are going to see Gin again and he's the one responsible for Sanji's poster.

 

[hokageji]

There is no basis to that though is it???

Gin would be good, Haki + those Tonfa ball weapon, crush components defense..

 

[Fox666]

There's no basis to anything regarding Sanji. But Gin is a character who was supposed to re-appear on the Grand Line at some point. It's the only connection I can think of.

 

[ShenGao]

There's no basis to anything regarding Sanji. But Gin is a character who was supposed to re-appear on the Grand Line at some point. It's the only connection I can think of.

But how would Gin become such a huge bigshot that he can command the Marine and tell them who to keep alive? Especially someone like Sanji who attacked Enies Lobby?
And why not do it sooner? Sanji's old friends from the Baratie recognized his old poster so Gin should be able to do that, too.

I think the nobles theory or being the son of that blond haired gorosei theory are more likely.

 

[Shinsatsu]

I've been reading most of the recent comments here and I'm really surprised that no one expressed their dislike for this "Weeble" thing... Or maybe I didn't go back far enough?
I was really looking forward to this last shichibukai... Well, who knows? this is Oda so he might make something good out of it.
P.S: I'm sorry but I really wanted to say this no matter what: that thing falling on the strawhats is the elephant's turd.

Sorry

 

[Eigengrau]

I've been reading most of the recent comments here and I'm really surprised that no one expressed their dislike for this "Weeble" thing... Or maybe I didn't go back far enough?
I was really looking forward to this last shichibukai... Well, who knows? this is Oda so he might make something good out of it.

I don't know what's to dislike. His design? Couldn't care less, as you said it's Oda/One Piece, we already know there's much more to the characters than their appearance.

480m bounty, has annihilated/killed on his own 16 crews affiliated with Whitebeard... Nothing short of extraordinary, and it's probably the first time we've seen a Shichibukai actually doing what they're supposed to do.

P.S: I'm sorry but I really wanted to say this no matter what: that thing falling on the strawhats is the elephant's turd.

Sorry

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Oda never drew turd/crap/shit, whatever you want to call it, so, after drawing OP for what, 18 years? I highly doubt he'd rely on "shit" for a cliffhanger, he's better than that.

 

[Notice me Escanor senpai]

I've been reading most of the recent comments here and I'm really surprised that no one expressed their dislike for this "Weeble" thing... Or maybe I didn't go back far enough?
I was really looking forward to this last shichibukai... Well, who knows? this is Oda so he might make something good out of it.
P.S: I'm sorry but I really wanted to say this no matter what: that thing falling on the strawhats is the elephant's turd.

Sorry

I don't think someone clearly expressed that he likes Weeble, most of the comments reflect how he's been used by his mother, that he might not be WB's true son, and that he could even be one of Moriah's zombies.
I don't even know what can be seen as "likeable" about him.
Yeah a lot of people are saying that the elephant is taking a shit. It could be funny, but I hope Luffy won't hit it...because well it's shit.

 

[hokageji]

something i stumbled upon while browsing:

This is the list of human trade as slaves:

Humans:
Beli:500,000+

Dwarves:
Beli700,000+

Mink Tribe:
Beli700,000+

Longarm Tribe:
Beli700,000+

Longleg Tribe:
Beli700,000+

Snakeneck Tribe:
Beli700,000+

Fishmen:
Beli1,000,000+

Giants:
Male giants:
Beli50,000,000+
Female giants:
Beli10,000,000+

Merfolk:
Unparted female:
Beli70,000,000+

Male:
Beli1,000,000+

Parted female:
Beli10,000,000+

Devil Fruit users: Market price


So the minks were first mentioned here, the 2nd last species to be explored in One Piece... there is another species of humans called the snake neck tribe, i dont think we've seen any of them yet.

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Also,
the small bos on the right says "exotic species special price"... It is a hint that more human species could exist in one piece. the list misses out of sky island residents, the people with wings for an example to start with.

It is possible that similar slave trade still exists in the underworld and the hunt for minkmen might be related to it...

 

[Notice me Escanor senpai]

something i stumbled upon while browsing:

This is the list of human trade as slaves:

Humans:
Beli:500,000+

Dwarves:
Beli700,000+

Mink Tribe:
Beli700,000+

Longarm Tribe:
Beli700,000+

Longleg Tribe:
Beli700,000+

Snakeneck Tribe:
Beli700,000+

Fishmen:
Beli1,000,000+

Giants:
Male giants:
Beli50,000,000+
Female giants:
Beli10,000,000+

Merfolk:
Unparted female:
Beli70,000,000+

Male:
Beli1,000,000+

Parted female:
Beli10,000,000+

Devil Fruit users: Market price


So the minks were first mentioned here, the 2nd last species to be explored in One Piece... there is another species of humans called the snake neck tribe, i dont think we've seen any of them yet.

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Also,
the small bos on the right says "exotic species special price"... It is a hint that more human species could exist in one piece. the list misses out of sky island residents, the people with wings for an example to start with.

It is possible that similar slave trade still exists in the underworld and the hunt for minkmen might be related to it...

Great find, too bad I didn't remember that part. But it is indeed the first time they were mentioned.
I'm looking forward to see all these races introduced. Oda is so good at imagining various races, and some of them turn out very cute, like the Tontatta or whatever species Bepo is from^^

 

[Knight of Stalwart Heart]

I think the nobles theory or being the son of that blond haired gorosei theory are more likely.

You know,Sanji's character design alone seems to be a dead give away that he's a noble.His curly eyebrow characteristic and how sometimes Oda draws his nose when he's in perv mode makes it look like he's a noble given that nobles have this...kind of character designs.

 

[Eigengrau]

Great find, too bad I didn't remember that part. But it is indeed the first time they were mentioned.
I'm looking forward to see all these races introduced. Oda is so good at imagining various races, and some of them turn out very cute, like the Tontatta or whatever species Bepo is from^^

I actually saw that pic yesterday in another theory by that youtube guy, here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymuP7IuMhvQ

According to him, the "weird guys"/RA commanders Koala refers to could be from all those different tribes/races. I guess that makes some sorta sense, but we'll see.

 

[Notice me Escanor senpai]

I actually saw that pic yesterday in another theory by that youtube guy, here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymuP7IuMhvQ

According to him, the "weird guys"/RA commanders Koala refers to could be from all those different tribes/races. I guess that makes some sorta sense, but we'll see.

*coughtinfoilcough*
I really don't get why that channel is so popular...