One Piece Mega Convo Thread

[Zehahaha]

The reason why I love One Piece is Luffy. I just love him. Literally. If he would exist I would be the first one to declare my love for him. My hardcore-deeply sexual love for him.

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This is so going to my sign !

 

[ukimix]

Sure, with his gomu gomu no power he could be able to make happy even shirahoshi.

 

[Uriel]

I had to.

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I think Fishman Island is underrated. It was a very intelligent arc, Oda's message about intolerance was very well said. I especially like that Hodi himself had no grudge against humans, using intolerance instead to justify his own wicked agenda. That is very insightful, and closer to the mark than is common, when pop culture tackles the subject. Not my favorite arc, but overall, very well done. I enjoyed Fishman Island more than Skypeia, which I found to be the most generic of the series. Skypeia and Davey Back Fight are my least favorite arcs. Water 7/Enes Lobby, Sabaody/Amazon Lily/Impel Down/Marineford were my favorites. Punk Hazard I have enjoyed a great deal. Other than Law giving Caesar his heart (plothole), I enjoyed everything about the arc.

He could do exactly the same with less lamer enemies and more Karate Dojo characters. :/

I rate this arc even below Skypea. And I share your opinion about those arcs. Ugh.

 

[Kaiten]

He could do exactly the same with less lamer enemies and more Karate Dojo characters. :/

I rate this arc even below Skypea. And I share your opinion about those arcs. Ugh.

That is true. There is no arguing that Hodi Jones was a boring villain, kind of a "monster of the week" type rather than a fully formed character. Oda's depiction of extremism was very well done, but the character himself was uninteresting. I would never refer to FI as a favorite, or even claim it was one of the better arcs. But it did have it's share of redeeming qualities, in addition to the message. I liked Shirahoshi, Neptune, and the denizens of Fishman Island. The flashbacks were excellent, I really enjoyed that part of the arc. I also liked that the arc served to ingratiate Luffy to Fishman Island. Reconciling a civil war was an excellent way for Luffy to ingratiate himself to the people of FI, despite being a human. Necessary, if as hinted, he is to someday replace Big Mam as FI's protector.

While it seems to have plenty of fans here, Skypeia seems to be the most universally disliked Grand Line arc, except maybe Davey Back Fight. Enel really annoyed me. He was to much the stereotypical shounen villain, all he did the whole arc was brag. The arc itself never really seemed to have anything to do with anything, other than finding the poneglyph at the end. I was never a really big fan of Drum Island either. Nothing against Chopper, but it was kind of a boring arc.

 

[k-dom]

Skypiea war was really well done. Thanks to having the action displayed in several place, Oda could balance the one on one fights while still giving the messy feeling of a battle. In that way I find it much better than Marineford.
Drum has one of the best flashback and Doctorine is a great character. Just for that, I will always put it higher than Arabasta. Vivi was a really boring character and it is only saved by a good villain.

 

[Mr. Arashi]

To me, Skypiea is best arc of One Piece. It has what really a pirate life has to have... Romance for Adventure. The feelings of any chapter of that saga are overwhelming, everything placed in the highest point of the world where the legend and rules of the people of the sea has mere vestigues as the people who fell from the moon or the Poneglyphs, and when the the king is acknowledge by other cultures. Battles swayed to only side till the end which thanks to plot the pirates could win, and without forgot the amazing Cricket's background that help them to go there.

"You don't have to feel fear along with the future Pirate King.
Pirate King? Which country does he rules?
He's the king of the seas!
That doesn't sound half bad".

Yeah, totally incredible arc i have to say. Separated from any advance of the journey but still better than a lot of the included ones.

 

[Ninomiya]

Are the CP9 members still members of CP9?
E.g Lucci, Kaki, Jabra, Blueno, Kalifa etc.

 

[vagabond87]

To me, Skypiea is best arc of One Piece. It has what really a pirate life has to have... Romance for Adventure. The feelings of any chapter of that saga are overwhelming, everything placed in the highest point of the world where the legend and rules of the people of the sea has mere vestigues as the people who fell from the moon or the Poneglyphs, and when the the king is acknowledge by other cultures. Battles swayed to only side till the end which thanks to plot the pirates could win, and without forgot the amazing Cricket's background that help them to go there.

"You don't have to feel fear along with the future Pirate King.
Pirate King? Which country does he rules?
He's the king of the seas!
That doesn't sound half bad".

Yeah, totally incredible arc i have to say. Separated from any advance of the journey but still better than a lot of the included ones.

Damn you, now I feel that I have to reread it

I sure hope that Dressrosa will have same "clash" feeling that Enies Lobby had, Doflamingo seems to have really special crew, strong as well. Dont mind Buffalo and Baby 5 losing to Shogun. Really amazing firepower is needed to wreck it so nobody can call them weak after what we have seen. Im certain that they will bring us some more cool actions, especially Baby 5.

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Are the CP9 members still members of CP9?
E.g Lucci, Kaki, Jabra, Blueno, Kalifa etc.

Nope. After Spandam betrayal they seemed to break their connections to Goverment.

 

[Lord Rayleigh]

I think Oda saved the dojo system for Wanokuni and it's going to be awesome. We didn't see Fishman Island's dojo because he thought it would have looked too similar with the samurais' training and fighting system. He probably also wanted to draw a Dojo with typical japonese style.

I personaly don't care the FI's dojo was forgotten but I think Oda should have shown more of Fishman Karate in Fishman Island. I hope he's going to show a lot more with Jinbe joining and maybe New World Fishmen.

 

[Kaiten]

Damn you, now I feel that I have to reread it

I sure hope that Dressrosa will have same "clash" feeling that Enies Lobby had, Doflamingo seems to have really special crew, strong as well. Dont mind Buffalo and Baby 5 losing to Shogun. Really amazing firepower is needed to wreck it so nobody can call them weak after what we have seen. Im certain that they will bring us some more cool actions, especially Baby 5.

I don't think the stakes are high enough for Dressrosa to feel like Enes Lobby. The circumstances are what made that arc so special, to me at least. The Strawhats leading a direct assault on a World Government facility, challenging the ruling order of the world, all for the sake of their friends. I can't imagine Dressrosa having that level of resonance, nor do I plan on comparing it to Enes Lobby. Enes Lobby was the climax of a saga, Dressrosa will only be the second arc.

I liked Marineford so much for all the reasons I loved Enes Lobby. The stakes were so high. The War was more than action for the sake of fighting. The emotion, from Luffy and the Whitebeard Pirates, was amazing. They were not merely fighting a war, but for family, and the emotional toll showed. It's a great arc to reread. A lot of the emotion lost in the sweep of the action is more evident the second time around. And the action was great, some of the best in the series, and best drawn.

 

[vagabond87]

I don't think the stakes are high enough for Dressrosa to feel like Enes Lobby. The circumstances are what made that arc so special, to me at least. The Strawhats leading a direct assault on a World Government facility, challenging the ruling order of the world, all for the sake of their friends. I can't imagine Dressrosa having that level of resonance, nor do I plan on comparing it to Enes Lobby. Enes Lobby was the climax of a saga, Dressrosa will only be the second arc.

I liked Marineford so much for all the reasons I loved Enes Lobby. The stakes were so high. The War was more than action for the sake of fighting. The emotion, from Luffy and the Whitebeard Pirates, was amazing. They were not merely fighting a war, but for family, and the emotional toll showed. It's a great arc to reread. A lot of the emotion lost in the sweep of the action is more evident the second time around. And the action was great, some of the best in the series, and best drawn.

By clash I meant simply seeing two groups of fighters clashing in fights that showed off some never seen before techniques, I do think its time to see more from strawhats training that we saw until now. That is part of EL arc feel that I would like to get soon from reading Dressrosa arc.
Its obvious that buildup for Dressrosa is nothing compared to what Enies Lobby had.
Sorry to say, even when I really like to read your posts you just stated obvious here, things that most of us including me knew about Enies Lobby arc.

 

[Schabrak]

You mean tournament, the last one in FI was rather underwhelming from the opponent's side. It all depends on Doflamingo fleeing back to his home at Dressrosa, which could develop into some match-ups with his crew or if they can infiltrate the place, take out the manufactory and get out without being spotted by them again. It would be sad if the Mugiwaras took out a couple members at a time at the end of an arc, with Doflamingo standing nearly alone at the end of the saga.

 

[k-dom]

One vs one fights have not my preference anymore since they would drag the story to much. Especially if you add Law and the samourais to the 9 strawhats.
Oda doesn't seem to use them much anymore and prefers team fights iInstead

 

[vagabond87]

One vs one fights have not my preference anymore since they would drag the story to much. Especially if you add Law and the samourais to the 9 strawhats.
Oda doesn't seem to use them much anymore and prefers team fights iInstead

Well I understand your point of view but sadly I cant agree with it.
We have group fights since Whitebeard arc till now, I miss some real show off.
Drag story to much? We are talking about Oda here- in last dozen of chapters of One Piece happened far more than in last year in Bleach.
Strawhats trained for two years and we will get one more arc with like 2 moves/actions from each Strawhat? Umm I wouldnt like this. At all.
Im kind of on the edge of patience with some characters. Its been like 2 years from time skip and we should take Zoro for example. What have we seen from him in those 2 years?
We san new Rengoku Onigiri, Shi Shishi Sonson, Kokujo: O Tatsumaki and that he has haki strong enough to kill some "lesser" logias(we saw that he can add haki to flying cuts when he used Kokujo: O Tatsumaki on iron shields of FP). Its been two years man. For me dressrosa is time when we will get to see some serious powerups, not just a glimpses of firepower. Still it might be just as you say with group fighting but Ill be waiting for some mano a mano fights like at old good Alabasta/ Enies Lobby times, with feeling that our characters are able get badly beaten. Ive gotten that feel with someone from SH really being pushed to limit when Vergo fought a little with Sanji. I do hope for their rematch, not Sanji vs someone comepletly new that is waiting at Dressrosa. And Yes, I think it was too early to see some full blown fight with anyone from monster trio. But now is time. Not time for another excuse for no show-off like running from "killer" gas for god knows how many chapters.
One Piece is not about fighting, I know this but at same time I really lack the feel of some real hard fights, strawhats cant be that strong so only Emperors crew would be real danger?
Its hard to believe that 2 years of training can do that kind of miracle power up.

 

[k-dom]

Exactly the same Oda who write one piece since 15 years now. Whatever genious he is, when there is fight, the plot can't progress. So even if I agree that they are necessary for the epicness of the story, having one per character is for me to much especially for an intermediary arc. That's quite a dilemna, Oda has chosen to give all his characters some screentime when other mangaka focus only on the main character. That is something I like in One piece so far but with the crew increasing it has also become a drawback

 

[Kaiten]

My feeling is that Dressrosa will be an action heavy arc, with exposition coming only at the beginning, and end. If you look at their objectives, the story lends itself to fighting, not world building. Law intends to invade Dressrosa, along with the Strawhats, and destroy the Smile factory. They inevitably will also rescue Kin's comrade. Most of the Donquixote Pirates remain on Dressrosa. They all have to be defeated in order for the Allies to proceed. Much of the plot was established at Punk Hazard, once the Smile factory is destroyed I presume a break in the action will be needed, as Law explains and then initiates the third step in his plan.

 

[k-dom]

Yes but we are wondering how this action will be handled.

 

[vagabond87]

I would bet for strawhats being pushed back in fights, even if its a little and even if they win at the end they will show their strenght at dresrossa.
On Fishman island we have seen Elephant Gattling, Rengoku Onigiri and Hell Memories- I suspect monster trio have at least one attack above those techniques they showed us then. Zoro has stronger version of Ashura, Luffy has to have some gomu gomu no artillery kind of move with his red hawk being shot like gattling and Sanji probably developed blue flames that would go along with his All Blue dream.
Thats only mine speculations.. I want to see at least glimpse of those new amazing techniques from those so they can be later fully used against top dogs from Kaido crew- people that should be in league with Whitebeard commanders- or some strong New World brokers. Somehow I still think that they are not ready to win with any Emperor.
Crucial will be how well they will do against Doflamingo himself and if Oda will try to suggest us anything going with Aokiji vs Doflamingo fight, even if its not big fight it would be great to see their actual exchange of attacks.

 

[llmcduff]

Seems a lot of the bigshots in the nw have a way to easily travel over water. I want to see the sh have this, especially the big 3. Maybe luffy can be like a deflating balloon.. haha or mold himself into some kind of floatation device and float on water. Sanji can jump through the air all day. Zoro? Maybe he can just swim.. a coffin would be lame since that is taken.

 

[ukimix]

Color spread of chapter 699, chinese version in HQ, thanks to Redon from AP



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The colur spread and the cover of the WSJ in really HQ. Thanks to Redon from Pirateking for the pics:



That haki looks more dangeous than Vergo's.