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We aren't getting anywhere with this. If i keep facepalming myself i might really have some serious aftermaths. :teehee
Our logic is way too different to get to a conclusion here.
 

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Of course the manga with nosebleeding perverts, fruits from the ocean giving powers and etc etc etc. The list goes on.. But if there is one thing Im pretty sure of: Oda doesnt wanna go too far away with is Luffys fruit, which is the main characters and probably a fruit that he went deep with before he wrote the saga. Im with you guys when it comes to "dont dig too deep". Ive seen way to many guys talk about powerstrength and bullshit when I think Oda just let that slip too our imagination. Haki this and haki that. We've read this manga for over 15-20 years(I dont know about how many years youve read it, but you get my point) and we like to believe its more live than fantasy..
 

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ok the metabolism stuff is a gag its not real so him eating a lot doesn't mean he's got higher abilities. I mean he hasn't eaten anything but mochi like 4-5 chapters ago or something I doubt he hasn't got hungry until then..

The healing factor isn't that great either. He is taking damage but he is not being critically wounded so essentially all the life damaging wounds are somewhat being healed rather quickly to make him functional. For example the shot to the leg his bone repaired but the skin wound is deep and still bleeding. The eye was kind of fixed after 4 chapter which could be artist mistake too but again the eye is a major important organ so fixed.

The fight was simply to showcase luffy's state and to show one new improvement to gear 4 and the new haki he obtained from this fight. To think more deeply might be irrelevant in my opinion.
 

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It seems luffy deflects his hands off air (like concrete) to change direction. We've seen his attack deflect off walls to hit targets, Enel for example, what's confusing now is how he does it with air.
I think @Pro Ban Corps might be right, if one hits water or air at high enough speed, it treats it as some sort of solid or concrete. Sanji uses geppo or sky walk to treat air as solid in order to propel or lift his body.
By kicking air really fast, it seems as if it's a solid with a base, enabling him to jump even while in mid air. It's possible luffy's using the same technique, only this time instead of jumping, he defects his hand off it to the direction he wants, not sure I'm right though but it seems like that's what he's doing.
Air, our atmosphere, is a fluid. And even if it was just gas, anything hit with enough speed and force is going to generate a resistance. Think running across water. Or a spacecraft coming back into the atmosphere catching fire just from the friction of the air! Geppo is that same idea, kicking so fast and hard that your foot pushes against the resistance of the fluid medium of our air. Having said that, I think that’s exactly how Luffy’s punches change direction.
i'm perplexed how people here are discussing topics (and adding science fiction) each time further from reality. Kicking the air to fly makes absolutely no sense and using it to explain anything at all makes even less sense. There is no way in hell a punch (or any object for that matter) can change direction without losing speed, power, energy or whatever. Unless Luffy is bending the space-time continuum, this python stuff doesn't make sense.
My piece of advice: don't take it all so serious, pretend it's plausible, don't think about it again, enjoy the story. :celebrate

what a week with no chapter makes with us :facepalm
Yeah, I agree. While it makes a certain kind of sense in the story, it wouldn’t make sense in the strictest rules of physics. I mean to get his punch to change direction he would have to push his punch a lot faster for a moment to get it to change direction like that, which doesn’t make sense as to how he could do that...

Oh I have an idea about Katakuri’s devil fruit! I think when he ate it, it made his body into mochi. So him being able to scratch and modify his form is all his typical abilities, but when he awakened it it gave him all of the other abilities like doughnuts, making kochi earplugs for other people, and pretty much everything outside of his body. And that makes me think of how crazy Luffy could get when he awakens his goku goku no mi! Think high speed rubber balls/bullets! Rubber walls! Rubber weapons strengthened with haki! That stretch to his whims! That’d be NUTS!
 

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I noticed that the spoilers and scans have been coming out a few days later than normally... Has the release date in Japan been changed from Mondays?
 

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I noticed that the spoilers and scans have been coming out a few days later than normally... Has the release date in Japan been changed from Mondays?
Nope, it's just that spoiler providers are more aware of his situation now, after middle December (i think) when two of them were found out and are in jail. An acknowledged fellow dismissed of this "work" and that's why spoilers are more hard to find.
YonkoProductions got to obtain them one day later, both One Piece spoilers and chapters.
 

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When Brook was fighting BM, he stated that "Only fools plan to die!" Which is hilarious to me, because that was the entirety of Pedro. I don't want him to be alive, but tbh I'm not going to accept his death until the arc ends completely.

During the wedding, Du Feld made an off-hand comment about Stussy being older than she looked. Ope Ope no Mi's Operation of Youthfulness, anyone?
 

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Re-read the manga start to finish recently and Luffy's healing quickly & after eating has pretty much always been a thing.
 

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During the wedding, Du Feld made an off-hand comment about Stussy being older than she looked. Ope Ope no Mi's Operation of Youthfulness, anyone?
Or just makeup maybe?
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It could be anything from Makeup, natural beauty, Jewelry Bonney's ability or some DF ability of her own, like how Alvida became beautiful. It could be Ope Ope no Mi operation as well, but i think Oda will reserve that to someone far more important, porbably like Kaido. It would explain why Law chose Kaido, and probably has the ability to undo that too.
 

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Or just makeup maybe?
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It could be anything from Makeup, natural beauty, Jewelry Bonney's ability or some DF ability of her own, like how Alvida became beautiful. It could be Ope Ope no Mi operation as well, but i think Oda will reserve that to someone far more important, porbably like Kaido. It would explain why Law chose Kaido, and probably has the ability to undo that too.
Dang, I haven't considered that Kaidou's perceived immortality may be tied to the Ope Ope no Mi!
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Has anyone bought the One Piece Omnibus volumes? They're sealed in my local book stores so I can't check them out. Basically, I want to know if they include color pages and extras from the volumes they consist of. I intend on collecting the series eventually and omnibus volumes would really save space. However, I don't want to miss out on cover art or Q & As that might've been cut for omnibus collections.
 

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Dang, I haven't considered that Kaidou's perceived immortality may be tied to the Ope Ope no Mi!
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Has anyone bought the One Piece Omnibus volumes? They're sealed in my local book stores so I can't check them out. Basically, I want to know if they include color pages and extras from the volumes they consist of. I intend on collecting the series eventually and omnibus volumes would really save space. However, I don't want to miss out on cover art or Q & As that might've been cut for omnibus collections.
They include the SBS, but I'm pretty sure they don't have any color covers at all. Not sure about colored pages, either.

But alternatively, you could buy the omnibus volumes and also the Color Walk volumes.

There's 8 of them so far, and you can find more info here:
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/One_Piece_Color_Walk_1

Not sure if they're easy to obtain nowadays, but yeah.

Each Color Walk volume contains all the colored artwork, spreads, and volume covers from a certain amount of volumes.

I think each one (except the frst) covers about 10 volumes of One Piece colored artwork.
 
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WCI hasn't demonstrated one as of yet.
Luffy can become Pirate King without dealing with Big Mom ever again - he got a copy of the road poneglyph. That was the purpose of the arc. Everything else, necessary or not, you can judge for yourself.
Still he picked a fight with BM on FI, in WCI as well and told her she is next after he dealt with Kaido so it still might happen but doesnt have to.
 

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Luffy can become Pirate King without dealing with Big Mom ever again - he got a copy of the road poneglyph. That was the purpose of the arc. Everything else, necessary or not, you can judge for yourself.
Still he picked a fight with BM on FI, in WCI as well and told her she is next after he dealt with Kaido so it still might happen but doesnt have to.
@TrueRaiKage Luffy has possession of 2 ROAD PONEGLYPHS that makes him the closest pirate to being pirate king. Closer than BM, Shank, Bb, Kaido... No one is closer to Rafael and I think that was the biggest take away from this arc
 

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Luffy can become Pirate King without dealing with Big Mom ever again - he got a copy of the road poneglyph. That was the purpose of the arc. Everything else, necessary or not, you can judge for yourself.
Still he picked a fight with BM on FI, in WCI as well and told her she is next after he dealt with Kaido so it still might happen but doesnt have to.
@TrueRaiKage Luffy has possession of 2 ROAD PONEGLYPHS that makes him the closest pirate to being pirate king. Closer than BM, Shank, Bb, Kaido... No one is closer to Rafael and I think that was the biggest take away from this arc
Bare in mind that while he has a Poneglyph, he's returning to fight her because you have to defeat the Emperors to prove your strength. It's not just gaining the Poneglyph.

Whitebeard was also considered closets to the Throne for being the strongest, not for Poneglyph. As far as we know, only Big Mom and Kaido own Road Poneglyph whcih implies Whitebeard didn't as Blackbeard who now owns that territory is not stated to have one.
 
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Bare in mind that while he has a Poneglyph, he's returning to fight her because you have to defeat the Emperors to prove your strength. It's not just gaining the Poneglyph.

Whitebeard was also considered closets to the Throne for being the strongest, not for Poneglyph. As far as we know, only Big Mom and Kaido own Road Poneglyph whcih implies Whitebeard didn't as Blackbeard who now owns that territory is not stated to have one.
Whiteboard had no desire to be Pirate King. If he desired to get to Raftel he could have, I have no doubt. But Luffy does. Having 2 road poneglyphs technically means he closest to reaching raftel by getting there not by recognition like WB. Big Mom and Kaido are in 2nd place with one each and the mysterious 4th one not in play yet. I mean he's closest in terms of means, not strength. Yes Whitebeard was closest due to strength but how could he have possibly gotten to raftel without the poneglyphs outside of declaring war on 2 Yonko and searching for the 4th? (perhaps the road poneglyphs weren't known about by the people who claimed he was the closest)
 

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he's returning to fight her because you have to defeat the Emperors to prove your strength. It's not just gaining the Poneglyph.
It was never stated that he has to beat them all. Neither did Roger. When he beats Kaido what better proof of strength does he need?
Such things as beating all 4 Yonkos doesnt have to happen, many things can happen to prevent that from happening.

Remember, you said BM had to be beaten otherwise she would go after FI and Luffy would follow. I strongly argued against. As you can see, she didn't have to be stopped and FI is of no concern atm. I shared my view when it comes to FI destruction and it has nothing to do with BM.

@Lexusflame Yes hes the closest and after Wano he will have the 3rd one and would be missing only the one with unknown location. It could be in possession of WG but probably not.
 

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Whiteboard had no desire to be Pirate King. If he desired to get to Raftel he could have, I have no doubt. But Luffy does. Having 2 road poneglyphs technically means he closest to reaching raftel by getting there not by recognition like WB. Big Mom and Kaido are in 2nd place with one each and the mysterious 4th one not in play yet. I mean he's closest in terms of means, not strength. Yes Whitebeard was closest due to strength but how could he have possibly gotten to raftel without the poneglyphs outside of declaring war on 2 Yonko and searching for the 4th? (perhaps the road poneglyphs weren't known about by the people who claimed he was the closest)
While he didn't have a desire, let's take into consideration that Emperors all fight each other in order to gain Poneglyph. In order to do this, it requires defeating them for the most part. Not everyone will have the privilege to sneak into territory and have a Brooke to hide the Ponegglyphs in their skull. The usual result would be Pedro's experience first time in Totland, they'd get there, and get defeated, so they'd usually have to defeat the Emperors to gain the Poneglyphs.

Reason why Whitebeard was closest was because had he chosen to invade Totland and defeat Big Mom or Kaido, he'd have won and gained their Poneglyph. He was the most powerful Pirate. The only Pirate who was compared to Roger. Strength is ultimately freedom, the power to impose your will and do as you please.
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It was never stated that he has to beat them all.
Bare in mind we don't have a record of all Roger did.



We are actually told it is required,
 

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@Hannibal Psyche So he has to beat Admirals too now in order to become PK? I am sure i told you before but dont take things too literally. You took Fujitoras words too seriously as well...
The one who reaches Raftel and finds the One Piece is the PK. Not a single Yonko has to be beaten. There were 7 shichibukais and Luffy has beaten only 3. Things which we think have to happen...well, dont have to. Same applies to Yonkos and Supernovas, they are all candidates for PK and Luffy wont beat every single one of them. I dont know how you picture a serious fight between Strawhats and Red hair pirates.
 

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@Hannibal Psyche So he has to beat Admirals too now in order to become PK? I am sure i told you before but dont take things too literally. You took Fujitoras words too seriously as well...
The one who reaches Raftel and finds the One Piece is the PK. Not a single Yonko has to be beaten. There were 7 shichibukais and Luffy has beaten only 3. Things which we think have to happen...well, dont have to. Same applies to Yonkos and Supernovas, they are all candidates for PK and Luffy wont beat every single one of them. I dont know how you picture a serious fight between Strawhats and Red hair pirates.
The Admirals will always challenge him, therefore, in order to traverse the seas, he'll need be able to defeat them.

When Roger was sailing, Garp and Sengoku tried to challenge him.



Even Chinjao states so.

The Pirate King must defeat the Admirals who get in his way, and also defeat the Emperors who own the Poneglyph, otherwise, it's impossible.

That's why strength is paramount.
 
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