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It'd be pretty interesting if loki has or the legendary fruit in question at elbaf is a mythical world snake one. I wouldn't think it'd be a regular snake fruit as zoans users when switching into their animal forms maintain their relative proportions to their race. As in, Loki is twice the height of a normal giant so if he turns into a snake his length would be roughly twice that of a normal snake. And that sort of wouldn't work as a world snake. Of course his hybrid form would be at least larger than his normal giant form. On the other hand a particularly massive giant turning into a world snake twice the size of a normal world snake... That''s worth looking forward to.
 

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It'd be pretty interesting if loki has or the legendary fruit in question at elbaf is a mythical world snake one. I wouldn't think it'd be a regular snake fruit as zoans users when switching into their animal forms maintain their relative proportions to their race. As in, Loki is twice the height of a normal giant so if he turns into a snake his length would be roughly twice that of a normal snake. And that sort of wouldn't work as a world snake. Of course his hybrid form would be at least larger than his normal giant form. On the other hand a particularly massive giant turning into a world snake twice the size of a normal world snake... That''s worth looking forward to.
I mean they did sort of do it with Nola in Skypiea. So it'd really have to be much bigger.
 

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I mean they did sort of do it with Nola in Skypiea. So it'd really have to be much bigger.
I doubt a fruit based on that snake would be a mythical one. Since that snake exists. A mythical world snake would be a different beast.
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Gotta say, the past couple arcs have given me a new appreciation for WB's crew. In particular because of how previous arcs made me rethink power levels in the story. But god damn, whitebeard's crew was monstrous.

Before I had admirals being stronger than WB's commanders but short of yonko. Meanwhile the past couple arcs have basically confirmed admiral class marines are on par with yonko, give or take. Meanwhile, say, kaido was enough of a threat at onigashima that he could have decimated the entire enemy forces if luffy didn't hold him at bay (though the presence of big mom was also problematic up to her defeat, otherwise kaido would have been facing luffy, kid and law). Even big mom herself thought katakuri was shit. Marco in turn was strong enough to have an edge over queen and king...

Even at the war arc we saw marco and jozu holding their own against admirals. They didn't win of course but as far as we have seen yonko shit on executives like katakuri or king. Aramaki had a pretty easy time at wano's prison and he easily defeated oden's samurai. Several of whom were more than strong enought to at least hold their ground against kaido's tobiropo and even all stars potentially. Even big mom's executives didn't last all that long during kuzan's incursion into whole cake island. Freaking vista got respect from mihawk, someone who basically stands in for a yonko nowadays.

WB's forces survived an onslaught from 3 admirals... as in, 3 yonko level fighters. Let alone that they had garp and sengoku in reserve most of the time. And mihawk was there. WB pirate madlads saw 6 yonko level fighters while having to play offense and went " LETS FUCKING GO". Obviously marco, vista and jozu had the spotlight during the war but the only way for things to have played out like they did during the war is that not only those 3 were way ahead of executives in kaido's and big mom's crew but also the other commanders in WB's forces were incredibly powerful as well. I've mentioned before but odds are fossa, rakuyo and maybe vista probably were the top executives in the WB pirates back when WB was in his prime (as marco and jozu were teenagers at the time). Looking back it kinda looks like vista could be ahead of marco and jozu even now...
 

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So how long could we expect Luffy to be fighting after the flashback ends
 

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Okay he's fucking with us at this point right? This should've been communicated as a mistake much sooner unless he just enjoys yanking theory-makers around.

Which... honestly I probably would too if I were him lol. Good on ya mate if that's the case

Though her name being "Gunko" made a lot more sense if she wasn't a celestial dragon. It's weird for nobility to have the name "army child" but it wouldn't be weird for a conscriptee to have that name.
 

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Though her name being "Gunko" made a lot more sense if she wasn't a celestial dragon. It's weird for nobility to have the name "army child" but it wouldn't be weird for a conscriptee to have that name.
It's implied Gunk wasn't born a Celestial Dragon, but became one when she was invited to the Holy Knight.
 

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So, how many Conqueror’s users do you guys think the Straw Hats will end up having so as to properly go up against the Holy Knights, Five Elders, and whatever other regenerative demons Imu has?
 

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Okay he's fucking with us at this point right? This should've been communicated as a mistake much sooner unless he just enjoys yanking theory-makers around.

Which... honestly I probably would too if I were him lol. Good on ya mate if that's the case

Though her name being "Gunko" made a lot more sense if she wasn't a celestial dragon. It's weird for nobility to have the name "army child" but it wouldn't be weird for a conscriptee to have that name.
I'm guessing if a non CD is given the title they may be able to get "adopted" into a family.
 

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I'm guessing if a non CD is given the title they may be able to get "adopted" into a family.
York demanding to be 'made' a CD and Gunko seemingly existing on the surface world in her flashback are now the only evidence we have of this. I really wonder what this entails. It doesn't seem like it's just 'live in the Holy Land and have absolute authority over the lower world'. I think there's a contract that comes with being a CD that we'll see in practice on York.
 

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So, how many Conqueror’s users do you guys think the Straw Hats will end up having so as to properly go up against the Holy Knights, Five Elders, and whatever other regenerative demons Imu has?
The Roger Pirates had Roger, Rayleigh, Gaban, Shanks and Oden

In the case of the Straw Hats, it will be Luffy, Zoro, Sanji, Usopp and Yamato?
 

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The Roger Pirates had Roger, Rayleigh, Gaban, Shanks and Oden

In the case of the Straw Hats, it will be Luffy, Zoro, Sanji, Usopp and Yamato?
I don't get the feeling Shanks was really using it at that point, but I'll give him that.

Usopp I'm also not sure about, but Yamato for sure. Oda just has to give Momo a power boost so that Yamato can finally leave.
 

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York demanding to be 'made' a CD and Gunko seemingly existing on the surface world in her flashback are now the only evidence we have of this. I really wonder what this entails. It doesn't seem like it's just 'live in the Holy Land and have absolute authority over the lower world'. I think there's a contract that comes with being a CD that we'll see in practice on York.
Will be interesting to learn how it all works. Would they just be a CD as an individual but can't pass on the status to their children? Are they allowed to marry a CD or still have to stick with normal royals? The CD system seems so purist but at the same time I could see them over time allowing strong people in to strengthen their own family bloodlines.
 

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The Roger Pirates had Roger, Rayleigh, Gaban, Shanks and Oden

In the case of the Straw Hats, it will be Luffy, Zoro, Sanji, Usopp and Yamato?
Oda has red herring'd us with "G5 will be infectious and the allies will all go G5"

It'll be "CoC is infectious and the allies will use CoC"
 

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York demanding to be 'made' a CD and Gunko seemingly existing on the surface world in her flashback are now the only evidence we have of this. I really wonder what this entails. It doesn't seem like it's just 'live in the Holy Land and have absolute authority over the lower world'. I think there's a contract that comes with being a CD that we'll see in practice on York.
If she’s not a Tenryubito by birth right, maybe she was sent to Marigeoise as a royal kid. It may be possible that WG kindgoms are requested to send some of their royal family kids as hostages to one of the CD families (something Rome used to do) and that Brook was in charge of the Gunko Heavenly tribute convoy to Marigeoise which eventually made him quit his job and become a pirate. Gunko would have thus been raised and incorporated into the Mamayer Tenryubito family either planned to be used for Mamayer CD reproduction (while keeping a décent bloodline) or as a Mamayer fighter.
 

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Okay he's fucking with us at this point right? This should've been communicated as a mistake much sooner unless he just enjoys yanking theory-makers around.

Which... honestly I probably would too if I were him lol. Good on ya mate if that's the case

Though her name being "Gunko" made a lot more sense if she wasn't a celestial dragon. It's weird for nobility to have the name "army child" but it wouldn't be weird for a conscriptee to have that name.
Lol called it.

They're a better ways of incorporating this instead editing it in, especially since it looks like we're getting a flashback of her. Shot could have been revealed when we got to know more about her but oh well.
 
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Anyone think Estrid could be Kaido's mom?

Which reminds me, we've never been given any origin stories on Roger or Luffy.

Since I'm throwing around dumb crap while I'm drunk and high, let's go full balls to the walls.

Imu is Roger and Luffy's mom.

Bang.
 

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Was on Arlong Park forums and it’s unfortunate to see how some have concluded that it will be impossible for more people to meaningfully join the Straw Hats.

People can think what they want of course, but after all the hard work and effort Oda has put into this manga, I suppose I just find it unfortunate that they look down on his abilities this much just because a few things didn’t go exactly the way they wanted them to.
 
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Was on Arlong Park forums and it’s unfortunate to see how some have concluded that it will be impossible for more people to meaningfully join the Straw Hats.

Peolle can think what they want of course, but after all the hard work and effort Oda has put into this manga, I suppose I just find it unfortunate that they look down on his abilities this much just because a few things didn’t go exactly the way they wanted them to.
There‘s one thing bothering me about your posts on the matter lately. Why care so much about people having different views? Relax and let it happen, future will tell who‘s right. IMO it‘s simple: You (and I as well) want Yamato to join as a member, other people think it‘s too late for someone to join and share deep bonds with the crew. Two opposing opinions/ viewpoints and none of said viewpoints are going to influence Oda‘s future decisions (yes I know about the Oda statement how he would change the ending in case someone figured it out, but hell as if he‘d have that much time to spare to read everyone‘s and their grandma‘s posts).
 

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There‘s one thing bothering me about your posts on the matter lately. Why care so much about people having different views? Relax and let it happen, future will tell who‘s right. IMO it‘s simple: You (and I as well) want Yamato to join as a member, other people think it‘s too late for someone to join and share deep bonds with the crew. Two opposing opinions/ viewpoints and none of said viewpoints are going to influence Oda‘s future decisions (yes I know about the Oda statement how he would change the ending in case someone figured it out, but hell as if he‘d have that much time to spare to read everyone‘s and their grandma‘s posts).
Just a common thing I’ve dealt with regarding anxiety, self-esteem, and other social awkwardness I suppose. I was always taught to listen to others, but you’re right that I shouldn’t worry about this crap so much and that I should just get over myself. lol
 

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Just a common thing I’ve dealt with regarding anxiety, self-esteem, and other social awkwardness I suppose. I was always taught to listen to others, but you’re right that I shouldn’t worry about this crap so much and that I should just get over myself. lol
O, I‘m not a stranger to these things either. Guess it all tracks back to my childhood but well in the end it‘s really simple as you phrased out so niceley. I think the main problem is people sometimes subtly sometimes openly violating the rules of open and healthy communication. It‘s either they don‘t know how it works or they simply try to let off steam or try to raise their own self esteem by diminishing others. I guess the healthiest way is to step back or simply ignore whenever someone tries to engage you in these kind of discussions. Just don‘t let the toxicity get to you. And yes it‘s surely much easier said than done.
 
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