One Piece Mega Convo Thread

[Hannibal Psyche]

I've been wondering since Saturn's little secrets "what is the extent of Imu's mind reading" because it seems like it's solely for dramatic purpose and not logical story consistency. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it is noticeable to my obsessed-with-details-of-magic-systems brain. It seems like Imu can only read surface level thoughts, like when Harald was refusing an order and it's like he was 'pinged' to the insubordination. Anybody who isn't sufficiently on-board with Imu's fascist agenda gets The Ping it seems but other than that, it doesn't seem like Imu can just read a person's thoughts/history like a book otherwise he'd have likely hunted down Brook ages ago

Also, cute dog. It won't dissuade my antagonism to you but it will give me a brief pause every time xD

I always just saw it as inner-monologue as that's how he can telepathically communicate.
Maybe not even inner monologue, I'd even assume it's just telepathy, and thoughts & memories are out of reach.

I happened upon the dog, and thought this is the one. We might be antagonists but who doesn't love a dog? Lol.

I think he can suppress memories to a degree. He made a comment about Gunko regaining her memories.

And I think Harald was at a range point of Imus power where he was dropping in and out of control. Imu had at least the awareness to give him commands but maybe not the total remote viewing capabilities that he has of someone in range, or with a stronger pact.

I don't know if he can suppress, but I think he can suppress memories in as much as someone who has knowledge in psychology/psychiatry. With the fact he can communicate telepathically anytime and anywhere, that ability to manipulate people is stronger. Even brainwashing, not in a supernatural way, but in a manner of just understanding human psychology deeply and having a way with words.

It could also be that Gunko lost her memories out of trauma which I'd say is more than likely the case. Sabo also lost his memory due to trauma, but it was physical... and one could argue that the physical trauma aided in suppressing his psychological trauma which repressed the pain of losing Ace & possibly the pain of leaving Luffy all alone.

Not that you're saying this, but my thoughts are like If he could read the mind's thoughts (or memories), he would have known about the fruit and gone for it in the first place. He also being in Harald's body would have seen Loki and known that Ragnir & Nidhogg were in Elbaph which you point out suggesting he lacks remote vision.
The fact he didn't know who killed Harald and had no knowledge of Loki, Nidhogg and Ragnir until now would suggest it's just telepathy and control by instruction. And greater control by possession of course.

Harald also had the depths covenant which is what the God Knights have, and it's only second to the Abyssal covenant which is what the Gorosei have I believe. And if he didn't know that Saturn was hiding a secret for 200 years about Emeth, I think that strongly suggests his inability to read the mind despite having the strongest covenant.

I think if he could read minds, then it would be far too powerful. He'd simply have to take over Rayleigh, Gaban, Roger to have known where the One Piece was... there's a ton of things he could have resolve. Another could be taking over Vegapunk to find out where the snail transponder was during Egg Head instead of wasting all that time summoning all the Gorosei to look for it.

Range might factor, but then, you still have the issue with how didn't he know Saturn's 200 year old secret. I think it's just telepathy and control. If this power was actually mind reading, he would essentially be impossible to defeat. He needs to have some flaws for his defeat to be possible.

 

[Bradhimself]

I always just saw it as inner-monologue as that's how he can telepathically communicate.
Maybe not even inner monologue, I'd even assume it's just telepathy, and thoughts & memories are out of reach.

I happened upon the dog, and thought this is the one. We might be antagonists but who doesn't love a dog? Lol.



I don't know if he can suppress, but I think he can suppress memories in as much as someone who has knowledge in psychology/psychiatry. With the fact he can communicate telepathically anytime and anywhere, that ability to manipulate people is stronger. Even brainwashing, not in a supernatural way, but in a manner of just understanding human psychology deeply and having a way with words.

It could also be that Gunko lost her memories out of trauma which I'd say is more than likely the case. Sabo also lost his memory due to trauma, but it was physical... and one could argue that the physical trauma aided in suppressing his psychological trauma which repressed the pain of losing Ace & possibly the pain of leaving Luffy all alone.

Not that you're saying this, but my thoughts are like If he could read the mind's thoughts (or memories), he would have known about the fruit and gone for it in the first place. He also being in Harald's body would have seen Loki and known that Ragnir & Nidhogg were in Elbaph which you point out suggesting he lacks remote vision.
The fact he didn't know who killed Harald and had no knowledge of Loki, Nidhogg and Ragnir until now would suggest it's just telepathy and control by instruction. And greater control by possession of course.

Harald also had the depths covenant which is what the God Knights have, and it's only second to the Abyssal covenant which is what the Gorosei have I believe. And if he didn't know that Saturn was hiding a secret for 200 years about Emeth, I think that strongly suggests his inability to read the mind despite having the strongest covenant.

I think if he could read minds, then it would be far too powerful. He'd simply have to take over Rayleigh, Gaban, Roger to have known where the One Piece was... there's a ton of things he could have resolve. Another could be taking over Vegapunk to find out where the snail transponder was during Egg Head instead of wasting all that time summoning all the Gorosei to look for it.

Range might factor, but then, you still have the issue with how didn't he know Saturn's 200 year old secret. I think it's just telepathy and control. If this power was actually mind reading, he would essentially be impossible to defeat. He needs to have some flaws for his defeat to be possible.

Sabo is a good point. It could very well be a trauma related thing. Hell even Saturn could've done experiments on her to erase memories like what he had Vegapunk do to Kuma. Although that was robotic stuff, we do know Saturn had been messing around with tech he then had Vegapunk go off and do like fruit replicating stuff. Could've been one of those "I had failed but maybe you can do it" but obviously way more cruel than how I've put it.

I also don't expect a great explanation from Oda haha. It's 50/50 we get a fully detailed explanation at this point in the story haha.

 

[AmyRose]

You know guys, going through Thriller Bark I finally realised some things.
First one: Brook keep protecting his afro at all cost because now when he's sceleton that's only recognizable thing about him and Laboon wouldn't recognize him at first sight.
Second thing: I finally understand why Ryuma wanted to cut Brooks hair soo badly. He's from Wano and Wano is based on Japan and if I remember correctly if samurais had topknots and if they lost them for some reason it was dishonor for them. So since Brook dosen't have topknot Ryuma tried to cut all his hair to show he's not worthy to be called a swordsman.
And third thing: I used to think Brook developed his "sing when you're scared" behavior during his time in Thriller Bark but newest chapter showed me he was always like that. It's quite heartbreaking to think that he always was just one step from death and easily accepted it as part of his life. Even during his last moments with his crew he sang with them because he was scared of dying and tried to make it less scary for them. Well, good thing that now he sing also when he's happy.

 

[Federicoxxx]

You know guys, going through Thriller Bark I finally realised some things.
First one: Brook keep protecting his afro at all cost because now when he's sceleton that's only recognizable thing about him and Laboon wouldn't recognize him at first sight.
Second thing: I finally understand why Ryuma wanted to cut Brooks hair soo badly. He's from Wano and Wano is based on Japan and if I remember correctly if samurais had topknots and if they lost them for some reason it was dishonor for them. So since Brook dosen't have topknot Ryuma tried to cut all his hair to show he's not worthy to be called a swordsman.
And third thing: I used to think Brook developed his "sing when you're scared" behavior during his time in Thriller Bark but newest chapter showed me he was always like that. It's quite heartbreaking to think that he always was just one step from death and easily accepted it as part of his life. Even during his last moments with his crew he sang with them because he was scared of dying and tried to make it less scary for them. Well, good thing that now he sing also when he's happy.

the afro thing it was also cause he clearly knows, it was VERY IMPORTANT for Brook's and as long he keep protecting it, it was EVEN MORE EASY for him to win against him, in combat any advantage you can use in your favor IT IS GOLD,,, also it was a fun way for him to torture him a little bit., but afro WEAKNESS or NOT, Ryuma at that time it was Lot more stronger than Brook for sure.

 

[AmyRose]

Soooooo, that question got kinda lost because I did triple comment and they all merged but I'm still curious. So, do we still think Mosa is Shirahoshi or we consider other options after newest anime episode was released? I'm asking because we all know Oda: when something seem WAY too obvious he tends to turn it into total plot twist. I wouldn't be surprised if he would make Mosa either some forgoten character from the past, someone technically impossible (kinda like Sukiyaki who turned out to be alive) or someone completly out of nowhere. After all Oda is Oda, he never make things easy to predict or figure out.

 

[Federicoxxx]

Soooooo, that question got kinda lost because I did triple comment and they all merged but I'm still curious. So, do we still think Mosa is Shirahoshi or we consider other options after newest anime episode was released? I'm asking because we all know Oda: when something seem WAY too obvious he tends to turn it into total plot twist. I wouldn't be surprised if he would make Mosa either some forgoten character from the past, someone technically impossible (kinda like Sukiyaki who turned out to be alive) or someone completly out of nowhere. After all Oda is Oda, he never make things easy to predict or figure out.

Im pretty sure Mosa it is Shiraoshi, but cant be 100%.... the only people i remember used that nickname on someone it was Poseidon, Reffering to Her,,and she also was, on Imu's hit list on the posters..

 

[Core D. Roy]

Soooooo, that question got kinda lost because I did triple comment and they all merged but I'm still curious. So, do we still think Mosa is Shirahoshi or we consider other options after newest anime episode was released? I'm asking because we all know Oda: when something seem WAY too obvious he tends to turn it into total plot twist. I wouldn't be surprised if he would make Mosa either some forgoten character from the past, someone technically impossible (kinda like Sukiyaki who turned out to be alive) or someone completly out of nowhere. After all Oda is Oda, he never make things easy to predict or figure out.

I'm still on team shirahoshi because i think it'd be the simplest thing to make this story Go Faster and they're an obvious match for each other but... Shirahoshi was heavily sheltered her whole life, and when Luffy did his rude Luffy thing she cried about how nobody had ever spoken to her like that. And, well, Loki is easily just as rude as Luffy, and certainly would have said some rude shit to her. One could say 'maybe they met in the last few months somehow after the events of Fishman Island', but Loki explicitly says they've known each other for a long time. For a giant the time since FI had to have felt like a few weeks

Also, Oda could just throw all that out and simply ignore he had Shirahoshi say that, since I seriously doubt he had Loki that deeply figured out that many years ago. It wouldn't be the first time he's done something like that, but he could also easily make up some excuse for why Shirahoshi said that- like she didn't consider Loki rude after being dendenmushi penpals for years of her otherwise-solitude, so maybe she just didn't consider his previous fake rudeness to be real and thus Luffy's abusive little tirade felt fresh to her. Not sure how to work that into dialogue but possible for Oda for sure

 

[AmyRose]

I'm still on team shirahoshi because i think it'd be the simplest thing to make this story Go Faster and they're an obvious match for each other but... Shirahoshi was heavily sheltered her whole life, and when Luffy did his rude Luffy thing she cried about how nobody had ever spoken to her like that. And, well, Loki is easily just as rude as Luffy, and certainly would have said some rude shit to her. One could say 'maybe they met in the last few months somehow after the events of Fishman Island', but Loki explicitly says they've known each other for a long time. For a giant the time since FI had to have felt like a few weeks

Also, Oda could just throw all that out and simply ignore he had Shirahoshi say that, since I seriously doubt he had Loki that deeply figured out that many years ago. It wouldn't be the first time he's done something like that, but he could also easily make up some excuse for why Shirahoshi said that- like she didn't consider Loki rude after being dendenmushi penpals for years of her otherwise-solitude, so maybe she just didn't consider his previous fake rudeness to be real and thus Luffy's abusive little tirade felt fresh to her. Not sure how to work that into dialogue but possible for Oda for sure

Yeah, that's why I still don't think that's her. Shirahoshi also have very distinct way of speaking and during all times Mosa was talking to Loki I did noticed politeness but not Shirahoshis extreme politeness. Also mayby that's just me but Mosa seem more mature than 16 years old Shirahoshi would be. And yeah, fact that giants have diffrent sense of time also makes it hard to believe Loki could "meet" Shirahoshi just recently and call it a long time. I think Mosa must be someone who "was with him" ever since his imprisonment. That dosen't cross Shirahoshi out but since Loki can be jerk I'm quite sure Shirahoshi would remember her "pen pal" to be super mean.

 

[Core D. Roy]

Yeah, that's why I still don't think that's her. Shirahoshi also have very distinct way of speaking and during all times Mosa was talking to Loki I did noticed politeness but not Shirahoshis extreme politeness. Also mayby that's just me but Mosa seem more mature than 16 years old Shirahoshi would be. And yeah, fact that giants have diffrent sense of time also makes it hard to believe Loki could "meet" Shirahoshi just recently and call it a long time. I think Mosa must be someone who "was with him" ever since his imprisonment. That dosen't cross Shirahoshi out but since Loki can be jerk I'm quite sure Shirahoshi would remember her "pen pal" to be super mean.

there's also the question of who set this up? was it mosa themself or did somebody else set up this little imprisoned pen pal relationship? my immediate thought would be shanks, as some sort of compromise for loki being locked up

 

[AmyRose]

there's also the question of who set this up? was it mosa themself or did somebody else set up this little imprisoned pen pal relationship? my immediate thought would be shanks, as some sort of compromise for loki being locked up

I kinda see that happening but it's also little weird. I realise that Shanks know waaaay more than basicaly any other person but there's also question of why would he set Loki up with Shirahoshi who was 10 at moment of Lokis imprisonment. And when would he have occasion to do so? Fishman Island arc was long time ago but I feel like Shirahoshi would seem less lonely if she was able to talk to anyone beside her family. I also doubt that after hearing about Loki from Shanks Neptun would let him contact someone as sensitive as Shirahoshi with him. Plus like I said Loki isn't bad person but he can be kind of ass because of his short temper so he could terrify her to death just first time he would yell at her for some reason. Mind you, she was a child with "admirer" that was trying to basicaly kill her even since she was 6. Loki deffinetly ISN'T good candidate for friend of young princess who was "put in tower" because some psycho keep throwing flower axes at her. I adore this man but even though I as READER know he's not bad hearing stories about him I wouldn't introduce him to shy little princess like Shirahoshi. Like I said: he's too scary even through den den mushi.

 

[Tonix]

I want Mosa to be Shirahoshi (or Yamato) just because I don’t have the head space to remember more new characters and I feel like the world is established enough at this point.

It’s time to start resolving plot lines, we don’t need more.

 

[costicla]

In the episode, Mosa speaks like Shirahoshi, I think she even says the "please don't raise your voice" line. Yeah, I say "she" even though the voice is filtered, but since this episode and all the hints in the story and from Oda, I think it would be strange if it's not her.

 

[baditz]

N the trauma incident that mosa talking about, i m sure its Shirahoshi in Marie joa when CD what make her a slave.

 

[AmyRose]

Soo, I was thinking recently. Isn't that slightly weird that art style of One Piece changed like 2 times in recent years? You know, before timeskip art style started changing a bit after Thriller Bark arc. Then there was timeskip and everything was diffrent including character design and art style only changed during Wano arc. But then changed again during Egghead and then during Elbaf too. Not that I mind much, I just find it little weird. Though I miss Wano art style, it was really cool.

 

[Bandit99]

Thought it was just me lol

 

[electricmastro]

In the episode, Mosa speaks like Shirahoshi, I think she even says the "please don't raise your voice" line. Yeah, I say "she" even though the voice is filtered, but since this episode and all the hints in the story and from Oda, I think it would be strange if it's not her.

Maybe we could expect the Straw Hats to return to Fishman Island with Loki then, first to Punk Hazard and then to Fishman Island.

 

[DeadlyBeast]

Thought it was just me lol

Oda ruined the pace with the timing of this flashback. It needed to happen earlier when Brooke recognized Gunko. It killed the momentum at the worst possible time.

 

[AmyRose]

Oda ruined the pace with the timing of this flashback. It needed to happen earlier when Brooke recognized Gunko. It killed the momentum at the worst possible time.

Yeah, this flashback should have place earlier. I don't mind it THAT much but like you said, it should happen at moment when Brook recognized Shuri. Also seriously, flashbacks happening during heated battle are the worst. It's kinda like watching movie in cinema and someone made weird noize during most epic scene. Ehhh, I REALLY hope it won't take as long as Haralds flashback. Though all those breaks may make it feel like it's waaaay longer than it really will be. Also I'm glad that Oda is keeping an eye on quality of life action One Piece (I heard Oda is fine and he just work on LA bit more) but it really shouldn't affect manga release. At this rate even though anime went seasonal it may still catch up with manga real soon.

 

[Bandit99]

Oda ruined the pace with the timing of this flashback. It needed to happen earlier when Brooke recognized Gunko. It killed the momentum at the worst possible time.

It really did

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Yeah, this flashback should have place earlier. I don't mind it THAT much but like you said, it should happen at moment when Brook recognized Shuri. Also seriously, flashbacks happening during heated battle are the worst. It's kinda like watching movie in cinema and someone made weird noize during most epic scene. Ehhh, I REALLY hope it won't take as long as Haralds flashback. Though all those breaks may make it feel like it's waaaay longer than it really will be. Also I'm glad that Oda is keeping an eye on quality of life action One Piece (I heard Oda is fine and he just work on LA bit more) but it really shouldn't affect manga release. At this rate even though anime went seasonal it may still catch up with manga real soon.

This was the main gripe with the most recent Demon Slayer movie lol. Super long backstory in the middle of the action

 

[DeadlyBeast]

Yeah, this flashback should have place earlier. I don't mind it THAT much but like you said, it should happen at moment when Brook recognized Shuri. Also seriously, flashbacks happening during heated battle are the worst. It's kinda like watching movie in cinema and someone made weird noize during most epic scene. Ehhh, I REALLY hope it won't take as long as Haralds flashback. Though all those breaks may make it feel like it's waaaay longer than it really will be. Also I'm glad that Oda is keeping an eye on quality of life action One Piece (I heard Oda is fine and he just work on LA bit more) but it really shouldn't affect manga release. At this rate even though anime went seasonal it may still catch up with manga real soon.

The content of the flashback itself I think is pretty nice. From how its going I do think it will be one of the shorter flashbacks but understand what you mean on how it will feel long. Not only are we dealing with breaks but most readers want to get back to the current conflct so it makes it harder to wait. Had he inserted this flashback earlier it could have felt more natural to the plot.

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It really did

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This was the main gripe with the most recent Demon Slayer movie lol. Super long backstory in the middle of the action

To be fair Demon Slayer manga itself is like that so the only mistake they made was making it a movie instead of a season. But money won out over the best medium for the work. Mugen Train was better for a movie since it was a nicely self contained plot. Personally I liked the Reza Arc Chainsaw man movie much better than Demon Slayer one.