One Piece Power Level Discussion Thread

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  1. Shanks v Mihawk
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  5. Is Smoker a top 30 character?
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More interestered him fighting Orochi honestly as Idk many still think he is King worthy after past fights. Plus Oda writing direction to Orochi shows he said clearly he wants him. If Orochi is able to back up the lore of his DF, then it be great challenge for Zoro to cut something that can renegerate and can't be 'cut'. How he goes about defeating him?

Also Zoro not always victorious in strength-based since it been shown certain characters he couldn't past before especially this arc with Kyoshiro where he needed Hardening for blade clashes, but Kyoshiro wasn't even faze. Doubt it be different story with him besting Doflamingo either. If Law and Sanji had tough time, Zoro wouldn't last either, especially past opportunity of cutting Birdcage to show he could cut his strings, but couldn't. Lately he looks to be hype tool for others now in this arc if take look at his fights within Wano.

Do expect his contributions though, but got see more before final battle if any indication will points to King or he reach lol needed to face him yet. Many passing 'Acts' can be an comeback for him and retrain himself like how Luffy and Sanji are in preparing themselves too for their opponents in the future.
You seriously need a perma-ban

That doesnt make sense lol

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You seriously need a perma-ban

That doesnt make sense lol

Have a hug*
Where it doesn't make sense on? Just stating why Oda want to push him to Orochi instead King early on and talking on his performance lately.

So do you, my friend :).

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I get this ominous feeling that Luffy will be the only main combatant SH, that is going to train during this arc.. I dont see Sanji or Zoro doing anything to increase their current lv. Its like they're both gonna push through their battles and receive some sort of mod or end of battle power up. To defeat the catrosphies. At best see Zoro gets a new sword, or even better he turns one of his swords black. But if it's not the latter, its disheartening.

I just personally think to use the formula of powering through adversity, even though, they aren't that much weaker, than the catastrophes, is just rather boring.
 

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I get this ominous feeling that Luffy will be the only main combatant SH, that is going to train during this arc.. I dont see Sanji or Zoro doing anything to increase their current lv. Its like they're both gonna push through their battles and receive some sort of mod or end of battle power up. To defeat the catrosphies. At best see Zoro gets a new sword, or even better he turns one of his swords black. But if it's not the latter, its disheartening.

I just personally think to use the formula of powering through adversity, even though, they aren't that much weaker, than the catastrophes, is just rather boring.
They still got 7 days left. They be able to prepare still and plus there is always the Haki Boost Raleigh said where their Haki evolves the more harder the fighting gets like Luffy vs Katakuri. Combine that it is possible for them to catch up to Luffy and beat who they are going for.
 

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Joker is more desirable card in a deck than king.
the wild card...Arsène!

Ok now after the new chapter we need to discuss Oden strenght the dude is insane!
 

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the wild card...Arsène!

Ok now after the new chapter we need to discuss Oden strenght the dude is insane!
If he is able to damage Kaido, then no doubt he was one of top strongest within Roger's Crew with up there with Roger, Rayleigh, and Bullet. Probably was his apart of his 3 YCs lvl commanders with Bullet and Rayleigh.
 
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Zorojuro is too stronk!
Been telling it since forever but people dont believe it. :smile-big
 

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Zorojuro is too stronk!
Been telling it since forever but people dont believe it. :smile-big
Because he made the fox guy run away?

That was pretty haxx to be honest hahaha
 

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Because he made the fox guy run away?

That was pretty haxx to be honest hahaha
Doesn't that hurt Zoro he never defeated fox guy? In their fights, he never was knockout or submit, so kinda opposite of making him look good.

Doubt Oda will make Zoro beyond Yonko with an weapon too. Mihawk said it best it's the user with skill than weapon that they hold onto.
 

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Doesn't that hurt Zoro he never defeated fox guy? In their fights, he never was knockout or submit, so kinda opposite of making him look good.

Doubt Oda will make Zoro beyond Yonko with an weapon too. Mihawk said it best it's the user with skill than weapon that they hold onto.
Jesus, It. Was. A. Joke.
 

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Doubt Oda will make Zoro beyond Yonko with an weapon too.
Zoro with Enma is obviously beyond Yonko, beyond PK. However, still equal to Sanji. :stare
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Jesus, It. Was. A. Joke.
Our Moe-chan has completely lost any sense for humor these days. :emocat
 

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Zoro with Enma is obviously beyond Yonko, beyond PK. However, still equal to Sanji. :stare
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Our Moe-chan has completely lost any sense for humor these days. :emocat
Zoro being PK level is stupid...
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He is clearly EOS Buggy D. Clown Level. With Enma, he is now Oda level (God Level)
 

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Would Prime Ryouma be Yonkou level?

"oh but pre TS-Zoro was able to beat him"

yeah beat a 400 year old corpse animated using pre-ts brook style of fighting.
 

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Would Prime Ryouma be Yonkou level?

"oh but pre TS-Zoro was able to beat him"

yeah beat a 400 year old corpse animated using pre-ts brook style of fighting.
If he was titled "Sword God" I'm sure he is AROUND Yonko level, but we can't be sure.
 

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If he was titled "Sword God" I'm sure he is AROUND Yonko level, but we can't be sure.
Im pretty sure he was since he was able to even beat back the WG from taking Wano
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I know. Why so serious when I wasn't XD?
Another Zoro chapter, still waiting for you to tell me 1 Sanji chapter in wano arc, or show me how Law has more panels than Zoro
 

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Im pretty sure he was since he was able to even beat back the WG from taking Wano
Where was this confirmed? I doubt 1 Yonko level character could beat back the entirety of the WG. Ryuma, if a central character at all in the WG avoiding Wano, would still need an army behind him.

Unless I missed the chapter that said Ryuma is responsible for the WG not invading Wano even tho he's been dead for centuries....
 

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Where was this confirmed? I doubt 1 Yonko level character could beat back the entirety of the WG. Ryuma, if a central character at all in the WG avoiding Wano, would still need an army behind him.

Unless I missed the chapter that said Ryuma is responsible for the WG not invading Wano even tho he's been dead for centuries....
It was heavely implied by Gyukimaru that Ryuma beat back any and everyone who came to Wano trying to take it over, for me this implied WG and pirates alike.
 

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Doesn't mean he has to do it alone. The WG sure is uneasy of the Wano samurais. Rightfully so, we already have 5 Yonko commander level characters among the 9 Scabbards.
 

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It was heavely implied by Gyukimaru that Ryuma beat back any and everyone who came to Wano trying to take it over, for me this implied WG and pirates alike.
Oh okay I got it. When you commented it sounded more of a fact than an opinion.

I see.

That would be interesting of Ryyma is the legend that is behind the reason Wano is out of reach. Flashback needed asap
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Doesn't mean he has to do it alone. The WG sure is uneasy of the Wano samurais. Rightfully so, we already have 5 Yonko commander level characters among the 9 Scabbards.
The fact that Kaido conquered Wano tells us that the legends of the WG's fears of leaving Wano alone have been greatly exaggerated unless there is a piece we haven't been introduced too yet. We personally haven't seen anything that could prevent the WG from subduing Wano like Kaido did.
 
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