One Piece Power Level Discussion Thread

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1. Shanks v Mihawk
2. Hand to hand fighters > Swordsmen
3. Zoro > Luffy
4. Zoro v Sanji
5. Is Smoker a top 30 character?
6. Mihawk's rank within the story
7. Law having CoC currently.
8. Katakuri > Kaido/Luffy/Etc.

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[Rmstorm]

How would he have beaten Doflamingo without Gear 4?


Personally, I think having a tier system is pretty useless and dumb. The only ones that seem to be immune are the Emperors and maybe the admirals, otherwise power levels or who characters can beat seem to fluctuate. Another problem is that readers don't consider matchups either, or characters' individual skills.

The katakuri fight proved yes,n he would ahve best Doffy without awakenining Gear 4. It would have taken 10 hrs though

 

[M3J]

How? Luffy was useless against Katakuri until he got Future Sight.

 

[McNuss]

Kaido
Monkey D. Luffy
Roronoa Zoro, Trafalgar D. Water Law, Yamato
Alber
Eustass Kid
Killer
Jinbe, Capone Bege (&the Firetank Pirates)
Vinsmoke Sanji, Donquixote Doflamingo
Queen
Jack
Scratchmen Apoo, Ulti
Vergo
Pica
X Drake, Who's Who
Franky, Basil Hawkins, Black Maria (&Wanyudo)
Nico Robin, Sasaki
Cavendish (&Farul)
Brook, Sai, Page One
Nami (& Zeus), Elizabello II, Kyros
Monet
Trebol
Bartolomeo
Diamante
Tony Tony Chopper
Dellinger, Gladius, Senor Pink, Lao G
Bellamy
PX-5, PX-7
Hajrudin, Ideo, Blue Gilly, Hack, Jean Ango, Surume
Baby 5, Stansen, Road, Goldberg, Gerd, Machvise, Kelly Funk (&Bobby Funk)
Usopp, Chinjao, Buffalo, Albion
Sugar
Leo, Orlumbus
Giolla
Suleiman, Gambia, Boo, Abdullah, Jeet, Dagama, Tank Lepanto, Riku Doldo III, Mummy, Meadows, Damask, Rolling Logan, Acilia, Spartan, Doughty, Gyro
Kabu, Bian, Rebecca
Bomba, Ranpo
Inhel, Cotton, Wicca, Baxcon, Daikon, Flapper, Bobomba, Mauji, Nubon, Pellini, Chao, Eikon, Chicory, Tarara
Viola
Nefeltari Vivi (&Carue)
Kyuin
Hammond, Kasagoba, Harisenbon
Demaro Black
Columbus
Ucy, Agyo, Uhho
Hera
Disco, Gatz, Gancho, Mansherry, Grabar, Esta, Milo, Aremo Ganmi, Mukkashimi Tower, Tegata Ringana, Shin Detamaruka, Shin Jaiya, Manjaro, Chocolat, Mounblutain, Drip, Cocoa, Turco, Hody Jones, Dosun, Zeo, Daruma, Ikaros Much, Hyouzou
Mario, Nora Gitsune


I think it's time to turn this over into Wano arc territory, for a while as the Tobi Roppo and Calamities seem like the most reasonable next inclusion, so I added them. Still think I need more context to evaluate the rest of the Beast Pirates. It is very unfortunate that a large part of them is still unnamed, and I might now switch back and forth between the remaining arcs to get more context for the named ones.

Also added some Return to Sabaody and Fishman Island Characters for whatever it is worth.

Personally, I think having a tier system is pretty useless and dumb. The only ones that seem to be immune are the Emperors and maybe the admirals, otherwise power levels or who characters can beat seem to fluctuate. Another problem is that readers don't consider matchups either, or characters' individual skills.

I mean, you can try to make an excel chart and calculate a vs everyone for every character, give or substract them points for wins/losses and then rank them. I tried that, couldn't get past a single arc, there's way too many characters, would crash excel anyways.

End of the day all kind of rankings rely on qualitative research and guestimates. Tiers make what you are talking about more clear, but I just think the expectation that crews internal ranking systems define the top spots is wrong, its like using bounty.

 

[M3J]

I mean, you can try to make an excel chart and calculate a vs everyone for every character, give or substract them points for wins/losses and then rank them. I tried that, couldn't get past a single arc, there's way too many characters, would crash excel anyways.

End of the day all kind of rankings rely on qualitative research and guestimates. Tiers make what you are talking about more clear, but I just think the expectation that crews internal ranking systems define the top spots is wrong, its like using bounty.

That'd take up too much time and still be so inaccurate. Tiers can be helpful but fans set too much store by it. I mean, Garp was a vice admiral, but he likely could fight an emperor for a while. Buggy was a shichibukai, but he himself is nowhere near that strength and only got that title because of his strong his crew is. It's why I think this whole discussion can be pretty bad and repetitive, especially when people simplify it to DBZ kind of argument, where they think A beating B and B beating C means A can beat C even if C has all the tools to beat A.

 

[really_jonny]

My ranking (only alive and active, with skills shown or some parameter given like Ben Beckham):

Top Emperor: Teach (hype), Luffy Joyboy
Mid Emperor: Kaido, Mihawk (hype)/Shanks, Big Mom, Luffy, Dragon Akainu, Aokiji
Low Emperor: Kizaru, Fujitora, Ryokugyu, Sabo, Zoro, Yamato, Sanji (yeah), Ben Beckham (vivre card hype), Law, Kid, Shilliew (hype)

Top Commander: King, Katakuri, Marco, Vista, Magellan (updated), Hancock
Mid Comander: Cracker, Queen, Doflamingo, Ace, Jozu, Jinbei, Killer, Kuma
Low Comander: Jack, Smothie, Nine Red Scabbards, WW (yeah), Apoo, Crocodile (updated)

A character from a lower tier might be able to fight, the complicate thing being two tiers below.

 

[XXGenesis]

Why is Magellan so high on the tier list when Pre-TS Luffy was born to harm hi.

 

[really_jonny]

Why is Magellan so high on the tier list when Pre-TS Luffy was born to harm hi.

For the same reason that Crocodile showed in Marineford. I put an update hype on Magellan.

 

[Lord Traffy Law]

But Oda doesn't care much for scales. If he wants to, he'll make a supposed YC3 fight toe to toe with an admiral, if he wants to, he'll make an admiral be as strong as a Yonko. In Marineford, Jozu fought toe-to-toe with Crocodile, the same Jozu fought toe-to-toe with Aokiji only being defeated by letting his guard down out of concern for his father, the same Jozu who was overpowered by the Parasite, the same Aokiji who fought with 10 days against Akainu who was able to rival Whitebeard. If Oda wants to make a Jack of life fight a Yonko toe to toe he will do it, just as he can make a Jack be defeated in an instant by a Yonko, and an admiral fight several commanders (Akainu faced Marco+Vista and all WB commanders at the end of the war).

One the admirals all kinda held back at marineford cause they tried to stoo
Crocodile and jozu didn’t fight toe to toe , jozu took corocidike by supervise/blitzed him (?) then doffy stepped in
Please all aokiji did was return the favor to jozu , jozu hit him unawares and did negligible damage , aokiji did the same and pretty much ended the fight , and outside big mum and kaido he’s probably the hardest to damage cause of his fruit , he tanked a pretty strong mihawk slash
Oda plays it fast and loose with power levels but he does keep it consistent with somewhat with tiers but he adds caveats of styles and abilities making fights
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Why is Magellan so high on the tier list when Pre-TS Luffy was born to harm hi.

For the same reason that Crocodile showed in Marineford. I put an update hype on Magellan.

Also considering his job and status
The level 6 prisoners feared him
Head of impel down the worst of the worst prisoners
He’s incredibly strong , likely an awakened fruit user

Also garp in his prime probably could defeat some maybe all emperors even , he turned down the admiral position multiple time and him being positioned as a rival to roger and rocks puts him on an another level in general , he’s not a regular vice admiral , heck even among marines he is probably one of their best fighters ever if not the best

 

[XXGenesis]

Personally never liked Magallen when he was 1st introduced. I find it hard asf to scale this dude w/o hype. Because Luffy put up quite the fight against someone “So strong” pre TS.

Overall given Haki and One Piece Various skills & abilities. I don’t see him as that big of a threat. Match up rarely matters in One Piece…Very select few circumstances do match up provide a cushion…I’m guessing Magellan is one of them but not imo

 

[Lord Traffy Law]

Personally never liked Magallen when he was 1st introduced. I find it hard asf to scale this dude w/o hype. Because Luffy put up quite the fight against someone “So strong” pre TS.

Overall given Haki and One Piece Various skills & abilities. I don’t see him as that big of a threat. Match up rarely matters in One Piece…Very select few circumstances do match up provide a cushion…I’m guessing Magellan is one of them but not imo

Level 6 dudes all fear him , Magellan been a monster
And it wasn’t quite the fight , Magellan low diffed lmao

 

[McNuss]

Kaido, Charlotte Linlin (&Prometheus, Hera & Napoleon), Monkey D. Garp, Sakazuki
Kuzan
Borsalino, Issho
Monkey D. Luffy
Roronoa Zoro, Trafalgar D. Water Law, Yamato
Charlotte Katakuri, Marco
Alber
Eustass Kid
Killer
Jinbe, Capone Bege (&the Firetank Pirates)
Vinsmoke Sanji, Donquixote Doflamingo
Queen
Jack
Scratchmen Apoo, Ulti
Vergo
Pica
X Drake, Who's Who, Smoker
Franky, Basil Hawkins, Black Maria (&Wanyudo)
Nico Robin, Sasaki
Cavendish (&Farul)
Brook, Sai, Page One
Nami (& Zeus), Elizabello II, Kyros
Monet, Caesar Clown
Inbi, Fuga, Zanki, Jaki, Goki, Rokki, Nangi, Hatcha, Kunyun, Juki
Trebol
Bartolomeo
Diamante
Tony Tony Chopper
Dellinger, Gladius, Senor Pink, Lao G
Bellamy
PX-5, PX-7
Hajrudin, Ideo, Blue Gilly, Hack, Jean Ango, Surume
Baby 5, Stansen, Road, Goldberg, Gerd, Machvise, Kelly Funk (&Bobby Funk)
Usopp, Chinjao, Buffalo, Albion
Sugar
Leo, Orlumbus
Giolla
Suleiman, Gambia, Boo, Abdullah, Jeet, Dagama, Tank Lepanto, Riku Doldo III, Mummy, Meadows, Damask, Rolling Logan, Acilia, Spartan, Doughty, Gyro
Kabu, Bian, Rebecca
Bomba, Ranpo
Inhel, Cotton, Wicca, Baxcon, Daikon, Flapper, Bobomba, Mauji, Nubon, Pellini, Chao, Eikon, Chicory, Tarara
Viola
Nefeltari Vivi (&Carue)
Kyuin
Hatchan
Hammond, Kasagoba, Harisenbon
Demaro Black
Columbus
Ucy, Agyo, Uhho
Hera
Disco, Gatz, Gancho, Mansherry, Grabar, Esta, Milo, Aremo Ganmi, Mukkashimi Tower, Tegata Ringana, Shin Detamaruka, Shin Jaiya, Manjaro, Chocolat, Mounblutain, Drip, Cocoa, Turco, Hody Jones, Dosun, Zeo, Daruma, Ikaros Much, Hyouzou
Mario, Nora Gitsune


Added some Top Tiers, Smoker (Smoker Top 30 lol), Casear Clown, the Numbers and... Hatchan!

 

[Crimson Ice]

My ranking (only alive and active, with skills shown or some parameter given like Ben Beckham):

Top Emperor: Teach (hype), Luffy Joyboy
Mid Emperor: Kaido, Mihawk (hype)/Shanks, Big Mom, Luffy, Dragon Akainu, Aokiji
Low Emperor: Kizaru, Fujitora, Ryokugyu, Sabo, Zoro, Yamato, Sanji (yeah), Ben Beckham (vivre card hype), Law, Kid, Shilliew (hype)

Top Commander: King, Katakuri, Marco, Vista, Magellan (updated), Hancock
Mid Comander: Cracker, Queen, Doflamingo, Ace, Jozu, Jinbei, Killer, Kuma
Low Comander: Jack, Smothie, Nine Red Scabbards, WW (yeah), Apoo, Crocodile (updated)

A character from a lower tier might be able to fight, the complicate thing being two tiers below.

They are some imposters here.

 

[really_jonny]

Sanji and Zoro are indeed at admiral level for the ease they defeated commanders in Wano. When they learned to use their new abilities, it was a unanimous fight in their favor - most notably Sanji who ran over Queen like a rocket. Zoro and Sanji when they return will be much stronger, as they learned to use their new skills (advanced Haoshoku, new physical abilities and two new elements). They are already fully capable of confronting an admiral, and toe-to-toe.

Magellan already explained my reasons, it will be updated. Teach was also taken down by Luffy Pre-Ts and no one doubts that he is at least at admiral level. Magellan was able to defeat Teach and his Devil Fruit is extremely lethal.

Vista simply fought the most hyped character of the work, honestly not putting Vista at least as YC1 is stupid.

 

[Crimson Ice]

Sanji and Zoro are indeed at admiral level for the ease they defeated commanders in Wano. When they learned to use their new abilities, it was a unanimous fight in their favor - most notably Sanji who ran over Queen like a rocket. Zoro and Sanji when they return will be much stronger, as they learned to use their new skills (advanced Haoshoku, new physical abilities and two new elements). They are already fully capable of confronting an admiral, and toe-to-toe.

Magellan already explained my reasons, it will be updated. Teach was also taken down by Luffy Pre-Ts and no one doubts that he is at least at admiral level. Magellan was able to defeat Teach and his Devil Fruit is extremely lethal.

Vista simply fought the most hyped character of the work, honestly not putting Vista at least as YC1 is stupid.

Zoro can't even maintain advanced haoshoku for too long, despite how short the end of Zoro vs King was he insisted that he needed to hurry up and finish the fight soon. Sanji med-diffed Queen post-awakening but they had been wearing each other down prior, it's not even certain he can beat King or Marco let alone Sanji being an entire tier above.

Magellan is wildly overrated. Comparing his reaction to Luffy and Teach's doesn't hold weight. I'm pretty sure Teach reacted the same way to being hit by both Ace and Whitebeard, all three of those characters differ in strength yet Teach gave the same reaction.

Vitsa held off a Mihawk who most likely wasn't putting his all into it.

Spoiler: WB big 3 vs Admirals

Out of the Whitebeard Pirates, it wasn't Vista who was shown at the start of Marineford it was Jozu. It was Jozu who squared off against the Admirals and the tide of the battle turned when he went down. Jozu is undoubtedly portrayed as the superior WB pirate to Vista. That ranking of Vista is too high.

 

[Lord Traffy Law]

Zoro can't even maintain advanced haoshoku for too long, despite how short the end of Zoro vs King was he insisted that he needed to hurry up and finish the fight soon. Sanji med-diffed Queen post-awakening but they had been wearing each other down prior, it's not even certain he can beat King or Marco let alone Sanji being an entire tier above.

Magellan is wildly overrated. Comparing his reaction to Luffy and Teach's doesn't hold weight. I'm pretty sure Teach reacted the same way to being hit by both Ace and Whitebeard, all three of those characters differ in strength yet Teach gave the same reaction.

Vitsa held off a Mihawk who most likely wasn't putting his all into it.

Spoiler: WB big 3 vs Admirals

Out of the Whitebeard Pirates, it wasn't Vista who was shown at the start of Marineford it was Jozu. It was Jozu who squared off against the Admirals and the tide of the battle turned when he went down. Jozu is undoubtedly portrayed as the superior WB pirate to Vista. That ranking of Vista is too high.

Ehhh vista did square off against mihawk and do alright
I’d consider mihawk in the same tier as the yonkou and admirals

 

[LaGOAT]

Ace has a 3 haki types

Ya the basic haki

Kaido
Monkey D. Luffy
Roronoa Zoro, Trafalgar D. Water Law, Yamato
Alber
Eustass Kid
Killer
Jinbe, Capone Bege (&the Firetank Pirates)
Vinsmoke Sanji, Donquixote Doflamingo
Queen
Jack
Scratchmen Apoo, Ulti
Vergo
Pica
X Drake, Who's Who
Franky, Basil Hawkins, Black Maria (&Wanyudo)
Nico Robin, Sasaki
Cavendish (&Farul)
Brook, Sai, Page One
Nami (& Zeus), Elizabello II, Kyros
Monet
Trebol
Bartolomeo
Diamante
Tony Tony Chopper
Dellinger, Gladius, Senor Pink, Lao G
Bellamy
PX-5, PX-7
Hajrudin, Ideo, Blue Gilly, Hack, Jean Ango, Surume
Baby 5, Stansen, Road, Goldberg, Gerd, Machvise, Kelly Funk (&Bobby Funk)
Usopp, Chinjao, Buffalo, Albion
Sugar
Leo, Orlumbus
Giolla
Suleiman, Gambia, Boo, Abdullah, Jeet, Dagama, Tank Lepanto, Riku Doldo III, Mummy, Meadows, Damask, Rolling Logan, Acilia, Spartan, Doughty, Gyro
Kabu, Bian, Rebecca
Bomba, Ranpo
Inhel, Cotton, Wicca, Baxcon, Daikon, Flapper, Bobomba, Mauji, Nubon, Pellini, Chao, Eikon, Chicory, Tarara
Viola
Nefeltari Vivi (&Carue)
Kyuin
Hammond, Kasagoba, Harisenbon
Demaro Black
Columbus
Ucy, Agyo, Uhho
Hera
Disco, Gatz, Gancho, Mansherry, Grabar, Esta, Milo, Aremo Ganmi, Mukkashimi Tower, Tegata Ringana, Shin Detamaruka, Shin Jaiya, Manjaro, Chocolat, Mounblutain, Drip, Cocoa, Turco, Hody Jones, Dosun, Zeo, Daruma, Ikaros Much, Hyouzou
Mario, Nora Gitsune


I think it's time to turn this over into Wano arc territory, for a while as the Tobi Roppo and Calamities seem like the most reasonable next inclusion, so I added them. Still think I need more context to evaluate the rest of the Beast Pirates. It is very unfortunate that a large part of them is still unnamed, and I might now switch back and forth between the remaining arcs to get more context for the named ones.

Also added some Return to Sabaody and Fishman Island Characters for whatever it is worth.

I mean, you can try to make an excel chart and calculate a vs everyone for every character, give or substract them points for wins/losses and then rank them. I tried that, couldn't get past a single arc, there's way too many characters, would crash excel anyways.

End of the day all kind of rankings rely on qualitative research and guestimates. Tiers make what you are talking about more clear, but I just think the expectation that crews internal ranking systems define the top spots is wrong, its like using bounty.

Who is alber? U forgot big mom

 

[McNuss]

Ya the basic haki


Who is alber? U forgot big mom

I haven't, I already did another version after this and you missed the post, but there's quite many characters I have misses. I am doing them group by group to get appropriate measurement sticks. It is very easy to rank a group internally (usually), but it's hard to combine these rankings. Also, I only include the characters current versions, and no characters that don't exist in Post-Timeskip One Piece.

I started with Dressrosa arc since that had a tournamnet theme and am now transitioning into the other arcs, which are much harder to place in context.

Alber is the real name of King.

 

[really_jonny]

One problem with One Piece fans' interpretation is think that there is a glaring difference between Luffy and Zoro/Sanji when there isn't. Luffy almost died to defeat Rob Lucci, being knocked out several times and being completely immobile at the end of the fight - it could even be said that the result between Luffy and Rob Lucci was a draw, as neither of them had the strength to rise. Lucci had a Douriki almost twice as tall as Kaku and Jyabura, but remember, Zoro at one point faced the two alone. Zoro and Sanji fight by cooking their opponents to then show all their power and so it was in Ennies Lobby, winning their opponents with your most powerful techniques and having the strength to face a Buster Call next. Anyway, the fight between Luffy and Zoro in Whiskey Peak was a direct one from Oda: there isn't that much difference between captain and subordinate here. Luffy and Zoro fought seriously and both were injured, it was an equal fight.

Returning to Wano.

Zoro and Sanji defeated two high level commanders more easily than Luffy defeated Katakuri for example. Before Wano, no one (at least not Zoro fans) thought that Zoro could defeat a commander. Luffy has now reached the level to face a Yonko, how do you guys think Zoro and Sanji are not at least admiral level?

Sanji vs Queen, it was a fight where the cook was with a heart full of doubts thinking that he assaulted a woman, so he wasn't able to fight at all. Only at the end did he show his cards, his true speed capable of blinding a Kenbunshoku-proficient Yonko Commander on a constant speed and the Ifrit Jambe (the evolution of Diable Jambe). Queen couldn't see Sanji, couldn't feel at what moment Sanji could hit him and when he was hit it was a blow so hard that he was stunned with no ability to react against the following blows. If Queen had Sanji's level he would have reacted to the IJ's first attack and they would have exchanged punches. There is no such thing as Queen was already injured from facing Marco and the previous version of Sanji, as Oda didn't show in the drawing that he was considerably injured.

Zoro vs King I'll start by saying that the King of Hell didn't even use Asura. Let's analyze, Zoro managed to master his Haoshoku and understand Enma in the last chapter of this fight. King still managed to exchange blows with Zoro (all blocked though, he couldn't land an effective attack, just a useless kick that Zoro used to counter), but it's normal for characters to be able to exchange blows with someone stronger in One Piece. In addition, King was a character invulnerable to attacks and only when the flames were over and he was faster to launch an attack he was vulnerable, in these moments of vulnerability Zoro launched two attacks on King and he resisted, but in the end (again, Zoro and Sanji cooking his opponents) Zoro showed En-Ou Santoryu and finished King WITH HIS DEFENSE ACTIVE. Do you understand the magnitude of this? If from before Zoro had been fighting with everything (Haoshoku, Enma and En-Ou Santoryu's domain) he would have defeated King much more easily K.O. while he was vulnerable.

Anyway, Zoro and Sanji defeated two powerful commanders, with an admiral's ease (or even more easily).

Soon Zoro and Sanji will be facing admiral-level characters like Kizaru and Mihawk. I believe that both (Sanji too) will end the manga as strong as a Yonko, like Rayleigh heyday for example.

 

[McNuss]

Kaido, Charlotte Linlin (&Prometheus, Hera & Napoleon), Monkey D. Garp, Sakazuki
Kuzan
Borsalino, Issho
Monkey D. Luffy
Roronoa Zoro, Trafalgar D. Water Law, Yamato
Charlotte Katakuri, Marco
Alber
Eustass Kid
Killer
Jinbe, Capone Bege (&the Firetank Pirates)
Vinsmoke Sanji, Donquixote Doflamingo
Queen
Jack
Scratchmen Apoo, Ulti
Vergo
Pica
X Drake, Who's Who, Smoker, Niwatori (new)
Franky, Basil Hawkins, Black Maria (&Wanyudo)
Nico Robin, Sasaki
Cavendish (&Farul), Pekoms (new)
Brook, Sai, Page One
Charlotte Oven (new), Charlotte Daifuku (new)
Nami (& Zeus), Elizabello II, Kyros
Monet, Caesar Clown
Inbi, Fuga, Zanki, Jaki, Goki, Rokki, Nangi, Hatcha, Kunyun, Juki
Trebol
Bartolomeo
Diamante
Tony Tony Chopper
Dellinger, Gladius, Senor Pink, Lao G
Bellamy
PX-5, PX-7
Hajrudin, Ideo, Blue Gilly, Hack, Jean Ango, Surume
Baby 5, Stansen, Road, Goldberg, Gerd, Machvise, Kelly Funk (&Bobby Funk)
Usopp, Chinjao, Buffalo, Albion
Sugar
Leo, Orlumbus
Giolla
Suleiman, Gambia, Boo, Abdullah, Jeet, Dagama, Tank Lepanto, Riku Doldo III, Mummy, Meadows, Damask, Rolling Logan, Acilia, Spartan, Doughty, Gyro
Kabu, Bian, Rebecca
Bomba, Ranpo
Inhel, Cotton, Wicca, Baxcon, Daikon, Flapper, Bobomba, Mauji, Nubon, Pellini, Chao, Eikon, Chicory, Tarara
Viola
Nefeltari Vivi (&Carue)
Kyuin
Hatchan
Hammond, Kasagoba, Harisenbon
Demaro Black
Columbus
Ucy, Agyo, Uhho
Hera
Disco, Gatz, Gancho, Mansherry, Grabar, Esta, Milo, Aremo Ganmi, Mukkashimi Tower, Tegata Ringana, Shin Detamaruka, Shin Jaiya, Manjaro, Chocolat, Mounblutain, Drip, Cocoa, Turco, Hody Jones, Dosun, Zeo, Daruma, Ikaros Much, Hyouzou
Mario, Nora Gitsune

Added some Big Mom Pirates. Oven and Daifuku are the most overrated characters in the manga. I know bounty isn't strenght but it can give hints. Oven and Daifuku are 48 years old and have Big Mom's name and are ministers in her country...Their bounty is 300M.

Pekoms is 27 and has a bounty of 330M. Page One is 20 and has a bounty of 290M. In all of their many years of high level piracy, Oven and Daifuku couldn't acquire a (much) higher bounty than them (or many others but I am talking about my current placements here).

On the other hand someone who did is Tamago aka Count Niwatori. He is 46 years old and has a bounty of 429M. The Chicken is the real Knight! To bad we didn't see him fight in this form but I assume he would have easily overpowered Pedro.

One problem with One Piece fans' interpretation is think that there is a glaring difference between Luffy and Zoro/Sanji when there isn't. Luffy almost died to defeat Rob Lucci, being knocked out several times and being completely immobile at the end of the fight - it could even be said that the result between Luffy and Rob Lucci was a draw, as neither of them had the strength to rise. Lucci had a Douriki almost twice as tall as Kaku and Jyabura, but remember, Zoro at one point faced the two alone. Zoro and Sanji fight by cooking their opponents to then show all their power and so it was in Ennies Lobby, winning their opponents with your most powerful techniques and having the strength to face a Buster Call next. Anyway, the fight between Luffy and Zoro in Whiskey Peak was a direct one from Oda: there isn't that much difference between captain and subordinate here. Luffy and Zoro fought seriously and both were injured, it was an equal fight.

I don't think the dynamic between Luffy and Zoro ever changed since Whiskey Peak, and due to Zoro powering up many more times than Luffy (after Whiskey Peak we get Iron Cutting, Flying Slashes, Asura and Shusui, while Luffy only gets the Gears) we could even claim Zoro getting stronger than him at some point. His development is now confirmed as being Haki related so that kind of makes sense.

However, currently Luffy is definitely stronger and here is why: Zoro's fighting style is shit. Many people always point out how Zoro has absurd durability, but the entire reason we can even claim that is because he is taking all this damage. He is a ground based, very stationary fighter with limited dodging ability, and very limited aerial movement. Vs Kaido or Big Mom, he could put more damage in shorter time but he will die, that's guaranteed. Big Mom got a huge nerf from fighting inside the aerial fortress, and her true damage output (like supersizing Prometheus) was disabled as that would have destroyed the fortress.

Sanji doesn't have these problems and even got the frail body fixed but the core problem remains and that is his damage output is comparatively weak, even though it got buffed. Its is still just pinpoint damage and his speedy fighting won't work at all vs top tiers without delivering. Kaido has aCoO, Big Mom has the Homies, he'll get a few meaningless hits in before being caught. The main purpose of the Sanji character is not fighting and as a fighter he is even often used as some kind of worf effect:

1. Drum Island: Luffy and Chopper do all the stuff and Zoro is just badass. Sanji gets beaten up by rabbits and Kureha.
2. Skypiea: Sanji suffers from aclimation during his first fight, then gets toasted and remains as such for the majority of the arc. Luffy and Zoro on the other hand rank top in the battle royal style arc and Luffy=Zoro=Viper is strongly implied.
3. Thriller Bark: Luffy defeats the main villain, Zoro takes up all that damage on top of his own. Sanji gets taken out with a jab to the side. Both Zoro and Sanji fought Oars and got owned by him, so their condition at that point should be comparable.
5. Fishman Island: Almost dies from nosebleed. Yeah.
6. Punk Hazard: Gets his leg broken by Vergo while Luffy defeats Caesar Clown overwhelmingly and Zoro isn't even bothered with Monet. Law defeats Vergo, a clear victory for the Worst Generation! Of which Sanji is not part of...
7. Dressrosa: Gets almost killed by Doflamingo while Luffy defeats him overwhelmingly and Zoro isn't even bothered with Pica. Law defeats Trebol, a clear victory for the Worst Generation! Of which Sanji is not part of...
8. WCI: Even when discounting all the emotional drama that afftected Sanji, Luffy is clearly portrayed as miles ahead of Sanji. Sanji's strenght here is clearly highlighted as cooking and any instance of him trying to settle things with force results in failure. Luffy goes out of the arc having defeated Cracker and Katakuri, Sanji Bobbin and Raisin...
9. Wano: Not part of the Worst Generation. He doesn't even really interact with any of them, while they are typically interacting which each other. Queen isn't that strong if you discount the plagues. He has:

1, Swords, but not a swordfighter
2. Useless Dino quirk
3. Laser Beams: Meh
4. Cyborg gimmicks: Meh
5. Extending limbs and potrusions: Meh

In addition, he has the Germa Powers:

1. More Laser Beams: Meh
2. More Cyborg gimmicks: Meh
3. More extending limbs: Meh
4. Invisibility: Meh

Queen is a Jack with Laser Beams and has not taken out anyone despite fighting the longest time. Chopper slapped him hard and hold his own for a while before withdrawing quite uninjured. Would Chopper even exist had he tried the same vs King?

I don't even doubt Sanji will face an Admiral, just we don't even really know what these are in Post-Timeskip One Piece. All just teasers, especially due to the Advanced Haki mechanics only being explored after Dressrosa. Are they all the same strenght, too? Or just the Top 3 above the Vice Admirals and below the Fleet Admiral? The Preskip trio wasn't 100% equal either and Kizaru is quite the underachiever (which is in line with what happened later, Kuzan vs Akainu).

Also, there's the Power-Up thing. Sanji's next power-up(s) will further explore what's the deal with him.

Zoro's power-ups are always very linear, more power. The only time he gained something different was the Flying Slashes, and Zoro will not learn Geppo or Soru or something no matter how useful that would be.

Sanji's power-ups are major game changers, be it Diable Jambe, Sky Walk, the Raid Suit or..whatever happened. Next one can be, too!

But still Sanji is not about fighting, and Zoro is all about fighting. That's the tl'dr and pretty much all there is to say.

 

[really_jonny]

I agree that Luffy is minimally stronger than Zoro and that Zoro is minimally stronger than Sanji.

But Zoro does have a lot of mobility and Sanji does have a lot of attack potency.

Luffy needs Advanced Kenbunshoku to see the future and improve the slow camera effect to be able to react to Kaido. Kaido started attacking Zoro first and even then Zoro surpassed his speed and managed to successfully apply Ashura. It turns out that Zoro's normal movements aren't that fast, but his techniques have absurd speed and that's why he hit Kaido. It's no wonder that in all of his finishing moves he makes a great leap and appears behind his enemies.

One technique Zoro has for dodging is Tou Hou Nagashi:

Oda gave a lot of hype to the projectiles' firing speed, each "paw" of that had the speed of light and Zoro managed to dodge it probably by watching Kuma's hands. If it was Luffy back then, be able to dodge it? Not like that in pure agility like Zoro, but making big leaps of speed out of Kuma's vision, not going in front of the attack and dodging each shot.

As for Sanji attacks, I will argue later.