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I think a lot of you guys overestimate kizaru and take the light speed to literal. If kizaru can literally move like you guys are saying or implying he wouldn’t have gotten hit by luffy.. TWICE, would have gotten the mission done etc.

So unless Oda shows us an awakening that’s like wild I don’t see kizaru fight in this blur like a lot of people are trying to say he can.
the speed of light is actually calculated only if there is an emptiness but in a real world with pyshics around etc it doesnt reach that speed
 

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the speed of light is actually calculated only if there is an emptiness but in a real world with pyshics around etc it doesnt reach that speed
Ah yes. The 0.03% difference in light in vacuum vs light in our atmosphere is really gonna tip the scale.
 

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It's clear kizaru does not normally move at lightspeed. He has some abilities which allow that... Like when it looked like he teleported away from luffy to build up momentum and kick him through the force field or when he reflects himself across various surfaces. But it's clear his normal movement speed is just that of his body. From the looks of it he can't attack while using his lightspeed movement, at the very least he hasn't done so. Now, his laser attacks should actually happen at lightspeed though oda has gone with these not being represented as such. As we can mostly see lasers in story. It's not scientifically accurate of course but it's mostly consistent in story...
 

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It's clear kizaru does not normally move at lightspeed. He has some abilities which allow that... Like when it looked like he teleported away from luffy to build up momentum and kick him through the force field or when he reflects himself across various surfaces. But it's clear his normal movement speed is just that of his body. From the looks of it he can't attack while using his lightspeed movement, at the very least he hasn't done so. Now, his laser attacks should actually happen at lightspeed though oda has gone with these not being represented as such. As we can mostly see lasers in story. It's not scientifically accurate of course but it's mostly consistent in story...
Just remembered something I read during high school days, photons don't have mass. So he probably must return back to lower (human?) speed to have enough mass to attack. I remember someone talking about lasers being super-heated plasma, but I don't know the details.
 
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I think that devil fruit powers adjust themselves according to what the user expects them to do, so Kizaru's powers are influenced by what Vegapunk taught him, just like King and Queen's weird attacks were a direct consequence of believing that "dinosaurs acted like cheap toys".

And this is both a curse and a blessing because while this enables df users to expand the scope of their powers, well... (as Saturn said) this can also act as a limiter.
 

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My morning routine is jaded. Usually I wake up to read the summary and then I go up cooking breakfast while having my own thoughts about the chapter.. now I am just awake and I don’t want to do breakfast like a normal man..
 

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Well we should be getting a summary today but since there's nothing yet, we got two more hints yesterday



Might mean Vegapunk uses Punk Records to broadcast to the whole world, intending to spread the truth about the Void Century (or something else, like Luffy/Nika..)
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---

(There was also a Golden Girls gif with them drinking from two giant wine glasses but I just automatically assume that's the cover page.)
 

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Well we should be getting a summary today but since there's nothing yet, we got two more hints yesterday



Might mean Vegapunk uses Punk Records to broadcast to the whole world, intending to spread the truth about the Void Century (or something else, like Luffy/Nika..)
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---

(There was also a Golden Girls gif with them drinking from two giant wine glasses but I just automatically assume that's the cover page.)
Well that could be something. Maybe the reason to broadcast would be for a different reason tbf. Like showing the truth about the Gorosei and their despise of humans.
My other guess with the “Hello world” gif is the Robot, and the truth could be Vegapunk explaining to Luffy about Nika. That might give Kizaru second thoughts.
 

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I'm not going to post it in the spoiler thread, because it's not an approved source....but potential spoiler.... there is somebody claiming a spoiler from a leaker saying that Lucci is defeated by a combo attack between zorro and jimbei.

The person who has the page for spoilers seems to do a good job of a history of posting legit leaks.

If this is true as well, I'm not sure how I feel about that.
 

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I'm not going to post it in the spoiler thread, because it's not an approved source....but there is somebody claiming a spoiler from a leaker saying that Lucci is defeated by a combo attack between zorro and jimbei.

The person who has the page for spoilers seems to do a good job of posting legit leaks.
Is it “Big News” Morgans again?
 

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wow what a problem if jinbe helps zoro. People care too much about power levels, and in One Piece it was never something so objective based on a real scale. It's all speculation by fans who even go to the trouble of creating nomenclatures to define characters that don't mean anything. Just enjoy the story and have fun.
 

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Is it “Big News” Morgans again?
I'm not sure who that is, but the page and the leaker don't have that name. Lol

If nothing else, I will verify it for myself if I can trust this page in the future.

So, for now...I'm taking it with a little bit of salt.
 

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I could see Jinbei doing that kind of stuff.
Remember when Sanji got angry at him during Wano because he ended up aiding everyone Sanji was supposed to help.
Jinbei is an elite veteran, he knows the importance off getting out of their ASAP. Ending up finishing Lucci alongside Zoro is the logical outcome!
 

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Well defeating Lucci is the only way to get rid of him. Since he won't stop to anything to stop SH Pirates.

It is just sad that it is a combined attack from Zoro-Jinbei.

At this stage, Zoro should be able to defeat him alone.
 

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Well defeating Lucci is the only way to get rid of him. Since he won't stop to anything to stop SH Pirates.

It is just sad that it is a combined attack from Zoro-Jinbei.

At this stage, Zoro should be able to defeat him alone.
How many times have we seen a fish beat a cat?
 

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My morning routine is jaded. Usually I wake up to read the summary and then I go up cooking breakfast while having my own thoughts about the chapter.. now I am just awake and I don’t want to do breakfast like a normal man..
Just go back to sleep, I'll quote you again once summary is up. But I'm also going to sleep lol
 

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I'm not going to post it in the spoiler thread, because it's not an approved source....but potential spoiler.... there is somebody claiming a spoiler from a leaker saying that Lucci is defeated by a combo attack between zorro and jimbei.

The person who has the page for spoilers seems to do a good job of a history of posting legit leaks.

If this is true as well, I'm not sure how I feel about that.
wow....so unnecessary.
if this is true, the meme became canon
 
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