Spoiler One Piece Spoiler Hints Discussion

[kkck]

We have seen more or less how fishmen-mermen ability to communicate with sea life works. The range is actually quite crazy. While a child shirahoshi was able to accidentally call sea kings to fishman island. Fishman island isn't the largest of islands of course but she was still a fair distance away from beings that are kilometers long and can easily carry noah. Jinbe was just at impel down and happened to be able to call apparently dozens or hundreds of whale sharks. Shirahoshi's range is at least suggestive of tens of kilometers. The actual limit can be anything oda wants. for all we know she can tell every sea king in the world to rampage simultaneously.

 

[Hikari96]

I mean, her moniker as an ancient weapon is poseidon and she belong's to the neptune family. It's by far the most natural interpretation we have of the information available (of course, oda can flip this in a second). I think the spoilers suggest there's a rain god and a sea god.

The rain and sea gods being seperate entities could address different parts of the story. There is one specific event during the void century, in which rain played a crucial role: the flooding of Ancient Wano after the creation of the walls. Could Zunesha be the rain god? The original connection between Zou and the Kouzuki Clan remains a mystery as of know. We saw Zunesha creating rain on Zou (himself). Could he have flooded Ancient Wano to seal Pluton?

Lets Consider she can only control the Sea Kings... thats not Small thing.. but it have Limits.. theeee beeessst scenario i can think of.. it is control the sea routes Exactly what the R.A it was doing to Mariejois... to starve them to death....Siege an island.. attack enemy ships... but as long i remember the Marine Ships got Kairoseki under it that make them invisible to the Sea Kings ; so unless they literally pop up to the surface to scout them like a scope on a Submarine.. i dont see how.

Due to Vegapunk's reveal, we know that the current world of One Piece was artificially created (giant flood). This implies that the Calm Belt and the Grand Line are no natural phenomena either. Additionally, it is a weird coincidence that most sea kings live in the Calm Belt. Poseidon could be indirectly able to control sea currents by the sea kings. In my interpretation of the Harley text, the world was divided twice. The first time, the earth god seperated the world with the red serpent (= red line). The second time, the world was divided by the rage of the sea god (= grand line). If the sea god is Poseidon and she alters sea currents via sea kings, everything would add up

 

[kkck]

The rain and sea gods being seperate entities could address different parts of the story. There is one specific event during the void century, in which rain played a crucial role: the flooding of Ancient Wano after the creation of the walls. Could Zunesha be the rain god? The original connection between Zou and the Kouzuki Clan remains a mystery as of know. We saw Zunesha creating rain on Zou (himself). Could he have flooded Ancient Wano to seal Pluton?

IIRC wanno filling up with rain water was not a specific event but rather the result of hundreds of years of rain water accumulating. I was actually thinking the rain god could be related to the thunder island.

 

[Bradhimself]

IIRC wanno filling up with rain water was not a specific event but rather the result of hundreds of years of rain water accumulating. I was actually thinking the rain god could be related to the thunder island.

Dragon showed up and saved Luffy with a Storm of wind and rain present.

 

[Hikari96]

IIRC wanno filling up with rain water was not a specific event but rather the result of hundreds of years of rain water accumulating. I was actually thinking the rain god could be related to the thunder island.

I just looked it up in Chapter 1055. In fact, there is no information on how fast the country was flooded. Sukiyaki only explains the bare minimum (Ancient Wano -> walls -> flood by rain -> Modern Wano) because he don't know how this happened. You could be right and it took hundreds of years but there could also have been a cataclysmic rain in the aftermath of the war, etc.

 

[Bradhimself]

I just looked it up in Chapter 1055. In fact, there is no information on how fast the country was flooded. Sukiyaki only explains the bare minimum (Ancient Wano -> walls -> flood by rain -> Modern Wano) because he don't know how this happened. You could be right and it took hundreds of years but there could also have been a cataclysmic rain in the aftermath of the war, etc.

Can't imagine Oda attributing changes to the world to relatively new information. We haven't even seen the rain god and now wano was shaped by it? Idk, feels off.

 

[wing_gundam]

I mean this is all kinda crazy and prob should wait for actual spoilers, but if Imu is one of these 4 gods, wouldn't it make sense if he's the earth god? the red line is like the main power the WG has in this world so it seems likely he would have created it.

Get rid of the redline and all oceans connect, no MG, no navy supremacy.

 

[Trip_LLL]

If I were to make guesses, I would say:
Because the Harley makes a distinction between a god and its servant, the serpent, it keeps me from saying something like Nidhog is a god.

Because the Harley mentions: Man killed the sun and became god, I have to assume that this is referencing either man harnessing technology or the descent of Nika into a devil fruit. With the preceeding part being the forest god tamed demons probably meaning the forest god created devil fruits, and the subsequent part being the sea god raged, I would surmise the Sea God has not been trapped in a devil fruit.
As for the forest god, it could be its the Forest God fruit, but it also might not be. I'm not going to say that "because its forest, it must have to do with plants" since Nika is associated with rubber. The critical linkage point is the taming of demons. Stuff like magic circles and glyphs, these are all tools that have to do with working together with demons, so saying the Forest God is doing this sort of magic is logically coherent.

Because the Sea Kings actively refer to Shirahoshi and one more as a "King," I do not believe Poseidon is the Sea God. Given that she is the daughter of Neptune, I'll say Poseidon is the daughter of a god. I'll say that the daughterhood "strips" the divine aspect for the purposes of One Piece.

I'm curious as to if there are more gods than the mentioned ones, because honestly, Oda could slot a bunch of the paramecia's as minor deities and I would accept it. At that point, though, I guess you could call demons minor deities, especially if you're handling the equivalents of presidents, maquises, dukes, and king demons.

 

[The Prince of Darkness]

I saw a spoiler page on Facebook don't know if it's legit or not but it was the 4 God's shadows and one of them looks like monster point Chopper

 

[calimike]

???

Just In: X deleted Yonkon Production tweet again on Shuiesha's request.

 

[SupremeMod]

I'll reserve judgment until I actually see it. lol

Completely off-topic, but wtf I just got spell-corrected for "judgment." I could have sworn it was "judgement."

What in the Mandela effect?

 

[ShadowHeart]

???

Just In: X deleted Yonkon Production tweet again on Shuiesha's request.

It's a joke

 

[yokoso9999]

I'll reserve judgment until I actually see it. lol

Completely off-topic, but wtf I just got spell-corrected for "judgment." I could have sworn it was "judgement."

What in the Mandela effect?

I suppose this is Oda's way of using argumentum ad hominem against a bunch of trolls.

 

[Mr. Crocodile]

I'll reserve judgment until I actually see it. lol

Completely off-topic, but wtf I just got spell-corrected for "judgment." I could have sworn it was "judgement."

What in the Mandela effect?

It can be different in American vs British English but judgment is what you'll see in a legal doc.

 

[Federicoxxx]

1182 Unconfirmed spoiler #4

Spoiler

The one god that world government/imu fears the most is Rain God.

 

[Neala897]

1182 Unconfirmed spoiler #4

Spoiler

The one god that world government/imu fears the most is Rain God.

Well that aligns with Vegapunk theory. Thats to say I really start to believe Oda wouldnt finish OP

 

[SupremeMod]

Well that aligns with Vegapunk theory. Thats to say I really start to believe Oda wouldnt finish OP

It's a great story that deserves an ending, but his health is more important.

Don't think Oda or GRRM will finish their stories.

I'd have to go back and re-read GRRM's last book to even remember what's happening tbh lol I really need to stop drinking and smoking while I read.

 

[Baes]

I'd have to go back and re-read GRRM's last book to even remember what's happening tbh lol

I thought about doing that but it won't matter if he doesn't release any other book

 

[Battle Wolf]

When One Piece finish (if i'm alive when it happens lol) i'll read everything again, appreciating every detail...

 

[kurosx]

I rly hope this nosense is fake.
How to kill your story in one single trick:
-from pirates to gods.
-from ninjas to gods
-from shinigamis to