Spoiler One Piece Spoiler Hints Discussion

[Trip_LLL]

If Redon posted Iva, I'm going to assume cover page.

 

[baditz]

If Redon posted Iva, I'm going to assume cover page.

But like some other guy mention, Iva are Sanji mentor in away, so maybe just like Mihawk he did mention CoC to sanji.

 

[kkck]

Iva doesn't strike me as the type to have conqueror haki.

 

[Riku]

Iva doesn't strike me as the type to have conqueror haki.

Why? Definetly a Queen with a strong sense of self!

And even they don't have it, doesn't rule out they know about it and can talk about it.

 

[kkck]

Why? Definetly a Queen with a strong sense of self!

And even they don't have it, doesn't rule out they know about it and can talk about it.

People with cladding usually are in the yonko ballpark. Even yamato could engage with kaido for some time. Iva on the other hand was basically on the run from akainu at the war.

 

[Trip_LLL]

But like some other guy mention, Iva are Sanji mentor in away, so maybe just like Mihawk he did mention CoC to sanji.

Fact: Sanji knows about Conq at Fishman Island, as both he and Zoro comment on it when Luffy uses it.
Inference: Iva could have told Sanji about it.
Conclusion: You're right that it's reasonable for Sanji to go through a similar flashback sequence involving Iva.
My Opinion: The flashbacks themselves are actually pretty useless for everything other than narrative padding because we already know the characters know about Conq.

But, Redon also has a history of hinting at the cover page with his first hint. I don't see anything wrong with being prepared for a cover page hint. Those are my full thoughts.

 

[ProYondaime]

I don't get why there's so much hype around Sanji right now. Whether he appears in this chapter and gets Conqueror's Haki or not, we already know he's going to get it. But I just don't see Imu losing 2 Horcruxes in Elbaf, because that's what they are—part of him or his power in some way. It's already been hinted to us that it hurts him when a Holy Knight dies

 

[baditz]

People with cladding usually are in the yonko ballpark. Even yamato could engage with kaido for some time. Iva on the other hand was basically on the run from akainu at the war.

Lol what, he facing on with Magelan 1 vs 1 n survive, who else in ID at that time can be like that?
He also eat Akainu magma punch in the face n survive, do sure rember marineford war.
Even as child at GV, he move people to figjt back, n when they try to steal DF but fail, with pride he tell Kuma even only 1 of them survive its their win with big smile, n u say he run type of guy?

 

[Hannibal Psyche]

Fact: Sanji knows about Conq at Fishman Island, as both he and Zoro comment on it when Luffy uses it.
Inference: Iva could have told Sanji about it.
Conclusion: You're right that it's reasonable for Sanji to go through a similar flashback sequence involving Iva.
My Opinion: The flashbacks themselves are actually pretty useless for everything other than narrative padding because we already know the characters know about Conq.

But, Redon also has a history of hinting at the cover page with his first hint. I don't see anything wrong with being prepared for a cover page hint. Those are my full thoughts.

I don't see why it is important for Sanji to be told about it, to be honest, the Mihawk flashback wouldn't have changed much. I don't think even Iva has it.
No one told Luffy either, he just discovered it on his own. I think it'd be odd for Ivankov to say anything when it doesn't look like he's a user. I personally don't think it is necessary.

 

[Buulord]

I don't get why there's so much hype around Sanji right now. Whether he appears in this chapter and gets Conqueror's Haki or not, we already know he's going to get it. But I just don't see Imu losing 2 Horcruxes in Elbaf, because that's what they are—part of him or his power in some way. It's already been hinted to us that it hurts him when a Holy Knight dies

He is able to replace the Knights though, so whose to say he doesn’t just decide to cut his losses prematurely and rescind the contracts with the losers of the current matches. He did it willingly with Saturn and as far as we know, that didn’t cause a problem for him.

On the other hand, maybe the loss of both knights back to back is what forces Imu to call a retreat rather than anything Luffy/Loki throw at him.

 

[Federicoxxx]

 

[kkck]

Lol what, he facing on with Magelan 1 vs 1 n survive, who else in ID at that time can be like that?
He also eat Akainu magma punch in the face n survive, do sure rember marineford war.
Even as child at GV, he move people to figjt back, n when they try to steal DF but fail, with pride he tell Kuma even only 1 of them survive its their win with big smile, n u say he run type of guy?

IIRC ivankov was about as helpless as anyone else againts magellan. And how does surviving an attach from akainu constitute a yonko level feat? A yonko would have been more or less on even footing with Akainu.

 

[Federicoxxx]

Seems the mistery about Sanji's weakness Detected by Iva and Gaban's only deepens..

 

[Tonix]

People with cladding usually are in the yonko ballpark. Even yamato could engage with kaido for some time. Iva on the other hand was basically on the run from akainu at the war.

Pretty much everyone but Whitebeard (and Ace lol) was dodging Akainu.

I think Iva did pretty well in the war. She was able to fight Kuma and make it out uninjured so she’s at least warlord/Yonko commander tier which is right where people like Boa, Ace (rip), Zoro, Sanji, Doffy, and Katakuri are.

 

[kkck]

Pretty much everyone but Whitebeard (and Ace lol) was dodging Akainu.

I think Iva did pretty well in the war. She was able to fight Kuma and make it out uninjured so she’s at least warlord/Yonko commander tier which is right where people like Boa, Ace (rip), Zoro, Sanji, Doffy, and Katakuri are.

Well, sure. But that's not the same as iva being a cladding user. Iva did as well as anyone in the executive tier at the war though I suppose it's possible the next time he appears he is showcased above most executives.

 

[Federicoxxx]

 

[baditz]

IIRC ivankov was about as helpless as anyone else againts magellan. And how does surviving an attach from akainu constitute a yonko level feat? A yonko would have been more or less on even footing with Akainu.

What when i say he is yonko level, u say he will run from Akainu, in fact he is not, Why suddenly bring up Yonko level?

 

[kkck]

What when i say he is yonko level, u say he will run from Akainu, in fact he is not, Why suddenly bring up Yonko level?

I am not sure what this post means but... I brought it up because it's what we are talking about:

People with cladding usually are in the yonko ballpark. Even yamato could engage with kaido for some time. Iva on the other hand was basically on the run from akainu at the war.

Using cladding is pretty damn adjacent to being yonko level.

 

[baditz]

I am not sure what this post means but... I brought it up because it's what we are talking about:



Using cladding is pretty damn adjacent to being yonko level.

Iva doesn't strike me as the type to have conqueror haki.

People with cladding usually are in the yonko ballpark. Even yamato could engage with kaido for some time. Iva on the other hand was basically on the run from akainu at the war.

N i replay Iva not a coward who running from Akainu. If that ur believe why Iva not have CoC.

 

[kkck]

N i replay Iva not a coward who running from Akainu. If that ur believe why Iva not have CoC.

I didn't say iva was a coward.