Semifinal Reinhard van Astrea vs. Vegeta

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I don't see universe anywhere there. It says world does it not? Why would you think that destroying and remaking the "world" would destroy and remake the "universe"? Those are vastly different things.
Easy to read "world" as reality there imo.
 

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Easy to read "world" as reality there imo.
Thats a thing i dont get about this anime/novel.

So the protagonist plays a game and then wakes up in this world, did i read that right? So its basically a videogameworld? That would also the explain the 80% defense thing. If its based on a videogame, or videogameidea, why would there be a universe if nothing of that sort was confirmed?
 

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Not gonna go over this again. It's universally clowned to treat dbz anime as canon.
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Thats a thing i dont get about this anime/novel.

So the protagonist plays a game and then wakes up in this world, did i read that right? So its basically a videogameworld? That would also the explain the 80% defense thing. If its based on a videogame, or videogameidea, why would there be a universe if nothing of that sort was confirmed?
Could be the videogame world I guess?
 

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Thats a thing i dont get about this anime/novel.

So the protagonist plays a game and then wakes up in this world, did i read that right? So its basically a videogameworld? That would also the explain the 80% defense thing. If its based on a videogame, or videogameidea, why would there be a universe if nothing of that sort was confirmed?
Isekais are usually game-like worlds with game-like rules and blessings, but they're actual worlds with real people/creatures and an universe with at least similar physics to ours (with the usual add-on of mana, auras, etc). It's not to be taken as being literally inside of a videogame cartridge.
 

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Isekais are usually game-like worlds with game-like rules and blessings, but they're actual worlds with real people/creatures and an universe with at least similar physics to ours (with the usual add-on of mana, auras, etc). It's not to be taken as being literally inside of a videogame cartridge.
That i fully get. But there isnt one mention of another planet, or universe besides this isekaiworld isnt it? So why should we assume, there is more? In this anime/novel there could be only one planet/world.
 

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Not gonna go over this again. It's universally clowned to treat dbz anime as canon.
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Could be the videogame world I guess?
Only in a debates like this when the opposite party can't win they pull out the canonity of the anime and what not and cries about it. 👅👏👏
 

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Only in a debates like this when the opposite party can't win they pull out the canonity of the anime and what not and cries about it. 👅👏👏
So every dragonball debate with a clown in them then? Lmao
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I'm not even trying to win anything here 🤔
 

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Easy to read "world" as reality there imo.
Is it? It's like saying a character that can make things go dark can end all light across existence because it doesn't explicitly say he can't. Since when are we attributing abilities that we can't prove a character has?

If so, I really missed out. I could have made up all kinds of crap for Shaltear. :XD
 

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So every dragonball debate with a clown in them then? Lmao
ofc the opposite party is a clown when they question the canonity of the anime and cries bUt It IsN't CaNoN and what not
 

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Fr if you can link me any site that uses DBZ anime feats as arguments SERIOUSLY.
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we even have a clown as a god, what did you expect?
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Is it? It's like saying a character that someone who can make things go dark can end all light across existence because it doesn't explicitly say he can't. Since when are we attributing abilities that we can't prove a character has?

If so, I really missed out. I could have made up all kinds of crap for Shaltear. :XD
Lol one could say that shalltear is Universe level from statements if every statement is to be taken at face value 😁😁😁
 

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I don't see universe anywhere there. It says world does it not? Why would you think that destroying and remaking the "world" would destroy and remake the "universe"? Those are vastly different things.
Because the World is not "the planet" here. There isn't even a planet in Re:Zero world, the "Earth" is flat.
"World" here refers to the dimension of existence in which the event happens, the slash was so powerful it ripped and shattered the air and sky, even their concepts were cut only for them to return after it ended.

I haven't seen something like that in DragonBall outside of filler. The closest thing was a clash of powers breaking through space and time in Gogeta vs Broly (the movie).
 

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ofc the opposite party is a clown when they question the canonity of the anime and cries bUt It IsN't CaNoN and what not
I don't question the canonity of the anime. It's not.
 

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Only in a debates like this when the opposite party can't win they pull out the canonity of the anime and what not and cries about it. 👅👏👏
:noworry Man, Hardy is calling you out on that and he's a DB fan that has never read ReZero apparently.

That i fully get. But there isnt one mention of another planet, or universe besides this isekaiworld isnt it? So why should we assume, there is more? In this anime/novel there could be only one planet/world.
I'll let expert Lambu answer that. I do know from this very debate that at the very least there is a moon so there are some astrological bodies.

You are right that it's universe could be different but I'd assume it's not that different as long as there are stars.
 

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Because the World is not "the planet" here. There isn't even a planet in Re:Zero world, the "Earth" is flat.
"World" here refers to the dimension of existence in which the event happens, the slash was so powerful it ripped and shattered the air and sky, even their concepts were cut only for them to return after it ended.

I haven't seen something like that in DragonBall outside of filler. The closest thing was a clash of powers breaking through space and time in Gogeta vs Broly (the movie).
Where is that "defined" Lambu? Because it's not defined in that text. It just says world. Air and Sky are parts of a planet. It does not refer to stars or anything outside of the world. Or the universe or anything else that I can see.
 

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Where is that "defined" Lambu. Because it's not defined in that text. It just says world. Air and Sky are parts of a planet. It does not refer to stars or anything outside of the world. Or the universe or anything else that I can see.
I mean it's clearly shown in the anime what happens. Why are we even going over this???
 
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