You know before Darwin came with his evolution theory, he noticed something. Flamingos living in a certain island is a bit different from flamingos living in another island which might be a few kilometers away. Now he thought that the Flamingos' living in Island 'A' have been living here for many generations. Tell me why? Why some flamingos' of island 'A' doesn't move to island 'B' when both Island have the environment for Flamingos' to survive? There are some difference in both islands. And just because the flamingos' are living in the same island for many generation, they evolve to cope better the environment of that island. Let's consider about humans. Put 100 human in Island 'A' and 100 in Island 'B'. And both Islands have similar environment. Then see what happens after 100 years. You'll find people in Island 'A', that migrated from Island 'B' and vice-versa. Human can chose to migrate, and Flamingo's cannot. I guess because, we have free will?
That it not an example that animals don't have free will, for starters animals are some of the most beautiful creatures in the world, because even the worst of them don't really take more than they need, the flamingoes probably come under this dogma.
We humans are different as we not only take what we want, we also take what we
may need in the future, I guess this is where 'human being's take more than they need' comes from.
But this has nothing to do with my definition of free will,at least,in both cases, the flamingoes made a choice to not leave and stuck to it.
Why all of them got wiped out? A lot of natural events occurred and after all that, H.Sapiens looked to be ahead of other species. Why? What favored them? Why natural events favored them?
You cannot say that we are the most evolved, if you have seen Doctor Who, the Doctor himself is from a species which is leagues ahead of humans, and I think it is a bit too soon to make statements that we are favored,mollusces have lived on this earth for longer than us, as have earthworms, we have been here for a barely 10,000 years, and frankly we ourselves might be the cause of our own extinction, if we are not careful,if such a thing happens, then we are certainly not favored at all.
If it is simply staying on this planet, then probably earthworms or mollusces are the truly lucky creatures.
She was not made fun of. She was insulted. More than that she her religion was insulted. And everyone around enjoyed. I don't want to talk about what actually they said, But it was very indecent. And I wouldn't be surprised, if she starts to hate Christianity and Christians for that.
Do you live in Turkey? Pardon my intrusion, you seem to a be a bit turkish for me, and you should probably tell your friend to not worry, whatever she has heard about hijabs, plenty of people I know have heard worst, at the end of the day as long as she does not meet those pricks on a daily basis, she should not start to hate Christianty.
I don't really know much about Hinduism. So, yeah thanks for putting your input on this topic from your point of view.
Your welcome hope it has increased your interest, or at least made it clear to not view Hindhuism in the same way as some other religions, even the circumstances of Hindhuisms birth are vastly different from Ahbramic religions.
But the thing is, our purpose is to become a valuable micro-organism, doesn't sound very appealing. Does it?
Well not to you, but you don't seem to a be a person who is either a pauper or someone rich(right?), whatever purpose you have or your life may hold, or make it meaningful, you shouLd try and find meaning.
But how would that be fair?
Depends on what you think is fair,is being deprived of the same joys and benefits of other your age fair? I don't think so, is it unnecessary? Maybe or maybe not, the person born with a defect can be the key to helping many others who are born with the same defect later on, in that way, 'xxx' person being born with a defect can have meaning, even if it is something that will make others sad.
Anyways as I mentioned in my previous post, in such cases it is better to try to see the bright side, after all, moping and crying about it, will not change your predicament, but it can make your suffering slightly more fair..?
So people who did caused sufferings to others doesn't get away.
But such a thing is impossible,if you have seen Death Parade, you will know the problem with such beings that judge people, for starters you want to have a God who will judge people equally and consider their situation's, but that does not guarantee anyone will be punished? Frankly if you consider everyones situation every one may get scot free, as any person who has done even the most heinous crime may have a good reason to do so.
For example, one that is close to the city that I live in, Mumbai, it was attacked on 26/11 a few years back, only one person was caught, and he has since been hanged, if were to ever go to a judge who is merciful and takes into account the peoples situation, then I am fully sure that, that terrorist will be allowed to go into heaven and it was his families poverty which made him a terrorist, even the most heinous murderers, may have a good reason to do his deed, at the end of the day, no creature does anything without reason, or even sheer pride for that matter, consdering peoples situations allows you to emphatize with people, but empathy is no way a good criteria to judge people.
Rules are, and there are no impartial rules at all, every rule that you can think of, is being impartial to someone, so in conclusion a God may not help in ensuring people who caused others sufferings don't get away.
At the end of the day, if a God is truly supposed to judge people wrong doings, then I don't think that convenient morality will come into play,it can't, I maybe sounding a bit rude, but at times people suffering and other commiting crimes is necessary for the world, even if it produces negative effect, take rape for example. thanks to that, we know how sex can cause immense pain to someone and we can at least focus on coming up with a system that is geared to making sex more consensual, it also can be a great catalyst for change towards perceptions of women in society, if this change is effected by a horrible incident of rape, then I don't any God can punish that person for having an overall positive impact, inspite of ruining someones life.
I get this idea of someones contribution towards making the world a better place being a standard from Hindhuism, there are two Avatars of Vishnu, one goes by the name of Lord Parshuram, a magnificent warrior who was a complete maniac, he massacred 21 generations(excluding females and children.) of Kshtriyas and as a result mistreatment and misuse of the postions, while ignoring the duties given by their privelege was almost stopped, another Avatar called Lord Krishna,who you may have heard of, spent most of hid adult life, killing those people who had different views from him, and would kill to make their views dominant, Lord Krishna did the same thing that these men did, and he created his Dharma, which still continues today predominantly in the form of the Gita, both of these people performed acts which my todays standard were atrocious, but both of them are given veneration, because their acts led to the world becoming a better place, hence they may not be given any sort of punishment, inspite of their acts
Which is why, if punishment needs to given, it needs to be done so by humans.
Excuse my poor knowledge of Hinduism. But people worshiping gods by making their statues does make sense to me. Perhaps you can enlighten me? Also himduism divides people by class. People of higher classes(Brahman and Kshartiya) don't touch anything touched by the lower class. Why such discrimination?
Firstly, let me tell you how Hindhuism was formed, it actually comes from a name given by Muslim invaders to the people living beyond the Sindhu river, as a slur of tongue it became Hindhu, and everything ranging from their traditons to their laws as well as their beliefs was contained in this term,later on with the British and other European colonizers who came here and viewed everything under the spectacle of religion, made this word into a religious term and called the religion Hindhuism, so the whole term of Hindhuism is more cultural than religion, not that it does not have religions undertones even if certain beliefs are prominent enough to be called religions in their own right, like Sikhs, Buddhist and Jains, all of the beliefs in India have their source as the Vedas and come from there, so in the sense this term of Hindhuism is more a religious term than a cultural one.
Why am I telling you this?
Well because there are two ways at looking at things in Hindhusim religious, in which case, barring a text like the Manu Smriti, none of the Indian religions encourage discrimination and denial of opportunites to people, frankly every religion stresse on people being unique and special irrespective of their background.So no religion coming from India, encourages discrimination.
Now if you look at it in a cultural way,you can say that the Indian society is castist and dominated by caste, looking at the way things are today(in some states.), one may even get confirmation that Indian society is a discriminatory one, but the whole concept of caste came only 2000 years back and even then it was more a broad classification,and there are plenty of people who are from supposed lower castes who have risen to prominence and are given respect, honestly, if you look at the terms which distinguish people, Brahmin, Kshatriya, Vaishya. and Shudra, there are similar to terms like Scientists, General, Soldier, moreover they are just terms denoting designations, and with the upward mobility of people from lower backgrounds, as well as many authors who visited India before the Europeans, even the Muslims who came and razed this country,there is hardly a mention of a system of discrimination, and it is frankly illogical for something like that to be India.
Honestly, the only people who actually criticize Indian society for a caste system are Westerners and the way the caste system is alive today, with the worst offence in it, i.e stopping someone upward mobility based on their background, was done by the British who themselves divided many Indians into various castes, and gave only certain jobs to certain castes as they saw fit, as these guys ruled most of the country,so the caste sytem comes from the British, you can check it out for yourselves on wikipedia, caste became an identity and a means for social mobility and is honsetly something that poorer states in my country still have not gotten past,
Then tell me, what about the people who have suffered without their fault? Can you blame a girl who was raped for seeing the world a disgusting place? Can you say to her that, "you weren't raped. Only you think this way. It was actually consensual."
No, that girl has the full right to hate the world, as I said if that is what she wants to see the world as, it is her right to see it that way and no one should change that.
Theses laws are here to legalize the wrongs done by the rich. Also what happens when the person escapes law? Like no punishment for murder if the murderer is never caught?
This a legal argument that I am not equipped to tackle, whatever the answer is, relying on God is not going to make things any less "unfair" as you see them, these laws are made by humans, and need to be changed and updated, even physical laws which are supposed to be absolute can be overthrown, so why not human laws.
Now I know it may be difficult, but...not impossible.In fact making change like this is what I belive to be one of the goals of existenc, to constantly improve and become better or die out,.
Such god probably doesn't exist. Even if a god exist, I'd probably end up in hell anyway.
I don't understand why a God convenient for you, won't exist?
