Discussion Sanji Discussion Thread

[M3J]

How often have we gotten rematches in the same arc or next arc though? If I recall, that's rarely ever happened, so it'll probably be the same here unless Page One and Sanji will somehow have something to make it exciting. I really wonder though, what's the point of showing us Sanji kicking Page's ass again and winning for the second time? It'd be one thing if Page beat Sanji, but that didn't happen. If Sanji was pushed and challenged, he'd likely win again without the RS.

 

[Shasha23]

I think Perosperos is going to fight some Minks, because of Pedro...

I also think Sanji since he has a way to counter him, none of the minks can use any heat base attacks and so far Perospero's candy can be countered to some extent by heat, and since Sanji got Pedro killed he should try and redeem himself by avenging him.

I still want Sanji to fight Page One still since that fight would help him advance his CoA while a fight vs candyman wont help him advance, it would just help him develop his fighting abilities to be more attuned to the RS.

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

Pretty sure he did. Doesn't explain why PO vanish from mission with Drake and Hawkins. He beaten to the point of being gone 2 weeks. Just case with Holdem and Kamazou coming back, but much severe on his case.

YC lvl threat is more his future which possible with King or Queen.

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Nah Drake was hype tool for him as he couldn't even touch him except one attack and even that he easily tank unlike 'certain swordsman' who ran from a enemy who wasn't even an enemy and easily played him.

Chopper seems to have his hands full with someone else, but he can help Zoro giving his injuries tendency. Sanji has possibility facing King or Queen with maybe even Macro together given similarities all around.

Also Sanji have Hardening. You can see that and knows how to use it with flexibility unlike the 'one' holding weapons.

Nah drake was toying sanji, sanji couls not give clean hits on drake
But marco sanji vs king is possible since king is too much for sanji alone

 

[King Moe]

I also think Sanji since he has a way to counter him, none of the minks can use any heat base attacks and so far Perospero's candy can be countered to some extent by heat, and since Sanji got Pedro killed he should try and redeem himself by avenging him.

I still want Sanji to fight Page One still since that fight would help him advance his CoA while a fight vs candyman wont help him advance, it would just help him develop his fighting abilities to be more attuned to the RS.

If you mean for warm-up fight with Perospero, maybe, but Carrot should deserve having the revenge on him in the end, so think it suits he face her, not Sanji. Plus seems like Nami and Carrot would run into him since her and others interacted with BMP crew so far with Prometheus.

Sanji won't face PO as that is a fight already shown he dominated and thinking about it more Perospero be too easy if heat can cancel out his DF. He won't be challenging threat. Based to save these guys for Zoro since he needs enemies to prove himself. So far he been kinda bad hype tool for his enemies and lost credibility. He need fights guys like this while Sanji go on facing stronger foes of his own with another T6H and possibility of King or Queen.

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Nah drake was toying sanji, sanji couls not give clean hits on drake
But marco sanji vs king is possible since king is too much for sanji alone

Nah, Sanji toy with him. Didn't even notice him much when focus on others. Drake wasn't taken seriously by Sanji at all and yeah Macro and Sanji vs King can potentially happen given they are only ones to fly up there to face King. There is credibility on that more than other fights thus far since we know King would strike from sky at his enemies as shown prior.

 

[Brandish μ]

The Drake fight didn't go anywhere after Sanji spotted Hiyori. We didn't get to see the RS there.

 

[King Moe]

The Drake fight didn't go anywhere after Sanji spotted Hiyori. We didn't get to see the RS there.

Sanji didn't really take him serious threat to be honest. Which is why he more focus on the others at them while dodging his attacks easily. He doesn't use RS for means for fighting, just for certain uses. Wonder what his training have become given the time to prepare for the war. Thinking we going to see next level of his power and ability since if Luffy aiming to take down Yonko, Sanji will be one of the few on the ship to be YC lvl after the arc.

 

[HereNThere]

Always extremes and no middle ground.

The two had what could barely be considered a scuffle. Sanji was able to dodge Drake for the majority of the fight to protect Toko. Before Sanji could land a serious blow with DJ, Drake finally tagged Sanji, but he was obviously not out.

Neither went all out.

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

Sanji didn't really take him serious threat to be honest. Which is why he more focus on the others at them while dodging his attacks easily. He doesn't use RS for means for fighting, just for certain uses. Wonder what his training have become given the time to prepare for the war. Thinking we going to see next level of his power and ability since if Luffy aiming to take down Yonko, Sanji will be one of the few on the ship to be YC lvl after the arc.

Nah drake beat sanji. Sanji could not dodge a simple tail whip from drake and was knocked hard to the ground.
Sanji will fight a flying 6 to redeem himself

 

[King Moe]

Nah drake beat sanji. Sanji could not dodge a simple tail whip from drake and was knocked hard to the ground.
Sanji will fight a flying 6 to redeem himself

He dodge one early and had Toko with him before. Sanji saw no trouble with him while Drake was trying more given trying to kill him and failed.

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

He dodge one early and had Toko with him before. Sanji saw no trouble with him while Drake was trying more given trying to kill him and failed.

Zoro need to face one as his final opponent on how it shaping up to be for him. Sanji already proven above them, but face tougher foe as his final enemy being Queen or King.

Drake destroyed sanji and we probably havent see all of him yet. Sanji will fight with drake using raid suit in the onigashima.

Don't bring zoro in here just because sanji couls not get any win here. Topic is about sanji, not zoro. Stay in topic

 

[King Moe]

Drake destroyed sanji and we probably havent see all of him yet. Sanji will fight with drake using raid suit in the onigashima.

Don't bring zoro in here just because sanji couls not get any win here. Topic is about sanji, not zoro. Stay in topic

Nah he got lucky and did nothing to him. Sanji didn't take him serious or even use his best attacks on him either. He wasn't trying. Being destroyed is Zoro vs Kamazou situation is what happen to him. Sanji came out better in his fights and you can tell he hasn't shown all he has learn at all.

I am using example that fits, not getting off topic. Don't take seriously if we bring in other characters for example purposes.

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

Nah he got lucky and did nothing to him. Sanji didn't take him serious or even use his best attacks on him either. He wasn't trying. Being destroyed is Zoro vs Kamazou situation is what happen to him. Sanji came out better in his fights and you can tell he hasn't shown all he has learn at all.

I am using example that fits, not getting off topic. Don't take seriously if we bring in other characters for example purposes.

When did sanji knock down drake? Because drake did that to sanji easily. Drake won and sanji needed to go all out against a flying 6 to redeem himself

Nope, you are just going off topic. Topic is about sanji, not zoro. Bad mistake from you.

 

[King Moe]

When did sanji knock down drake? Because drake did that to sanji easily. Drake won and sanji needed to go all out against a flying 6 to redeem himself

Nope, you are just going off topic. Topic is about sanji, not zoro. Bad mistake from you.

When did Drake defeat Sanji? Being hit once after multiple attempts isn't defeat. Defeat is how Zoro been treated by his enemies for example. Not getting off topic, just using prime example. Sanji easily got better of him as he never took him seriously at all. If neither T6H did much to him, YC lvl threats like King or Queen are his future while others will face them like Zoro who need redeeming for example.

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

When did Drake defeat Sanji? Being hit once after multiple attempts isn't defeat. Defeat is how Zoro been treated by his enemies for example. Not getting off topic, just using prime example. Sanji easily got better of him as he never took him seriously at all. If neither T6H did much to him, YC lvl threats like King or Queen are his future while others will face them like Zoro who need redeeming for example.

Sanji couldn't land any injuries on drake while drake toyed with sanji. Sanji lost hard there. All out sanji with raid suit might have a draw against drake.
Sanji will fight flying six

 

[thedude]

Sanji couldn't land any injuries on drake while drake toyed with sanji. Sanji lost hard there. All out sanji with raid suit might have a draw against drake.
Sanji will fight flying six

These are such silly ways to debate. We have Sanji avoiding hits, Sanji getting hit once, Sanji getting up completely unhurt. That somehow turns to "Sanji lost hard".

 

[King Moe]

These are such silly ways to debate. We have Sanji avoiding hits, Sanji getting hit once, Sanji getting up completely unhurt. That somehow turns to "Sanji lost hard".

That how 'certain fans' of Zoro do in their own line of thinking. They can't come out admitting the canon if it goes against their line of thought. We all know Sanji wasn't even trying in the fight with Drake compare to him who was aiming to kill him and failed to do that even when he was handicap by Toko one point and still couldn't touch him.

 

[thedude]

That how 'certain fans' of Zoro do in their own line of thinking. They can't come out admitting the canon if it goes against their line of thought. We all know Sanji wasn't even trying in the fight with Drake compare to him who was aiming to kill him and failed to do that even when he was handicap by Toko one point and still couldn't touch him.

Well, you do the same. I get it that it's to balance the scales mostly, but I'd prefer neither side did it. It's silly.

Zoro and Sanji are both at times great characters. They are at the mercy of their creator, and hopefully he gives fans of both something to get happy about in this arc. It's been far too long for both of them (and Usop and Nami and Chopper and Robin and Brook....Franky at least had a fight on Dressrosa and also Punk Hazard).

 

[King Moe]

Sanji couldn't land any injuries on drake while drake toyed with sanji. Sanji lost hard there. All out sanji with raid suit might have a draw against drake.
Sanji will fight flying six

Drake never injured him either as we saw him later just fine. Idk what your pushing and neither Sanji lost. Drake lost the exchange as he couldn't do much to him same way PO couldn't. Sanji is easily above T6H as shown in dominance of them PO and how Ulti got taken down by Yamato in latest chapter. Sanji's final fight be King or Queen who are more worthy to challenging, might have warm-up fight with T6H, but won't be much of issue really. Give Zoro the chance to face them more since he need it as of late especially losing to Apoo who inspired to be a T6H and he easily damage Zoro. That's prime example getting damage and losing to boot.

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Well, you do the same. I get it that it's to balance the scales mostly, but I'd prefer neither side did it. It's silly.

Zoro and Sanji are both at times great characters. They are at the mercy of their creator, and hopefully he gives fans of both something to get happy about in this arc. It's been far too long for both of them (and Usop and Nami and Chopper and Robin and Brook....Franky at least had a fight on Dressrosa and also Punk Hazard).

I can admit when Sanji is not ready for someone and taking someone out, but his performance in Wano shows he is more capable than he is. Though you never heard me saying he can take on Kaido or stronger than Luffy. Me and Sanji fans know our limits on to push character. We don't ignore for our own imaginations.

I do hope he gives everyone a spotlight as with War arc, Oda should find the opponents for everyone to take on.

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

Well, you do the same.

That how 'certain fans' of Sanji do in their own line of thinking. They can't come out admitting the canon if it goes against their line of thought. Drake was underestimated heavily even though he is part of the Flying Six and also a Supernova.

 

[King Moe]

Sanji vs King or Queen looks to happen more since Sanji is going off his own for his own solo adventures. Seems like main forces will be all over the place from Alliance side. It be interesting to see all this chaos around in the raid. Anyone thinking he is going to save Momo or doing something else important on his side?