You dont have to be worried about Zoro, even tho its kind for Sanji fan to worry about Zoro.
Zoro is an unparalleled powerhouse and the hype can go only one way with him, up.
Don't hate Zoro, just dislike members of fan base on how they act .
After Hawkins, the hype went down though. Pretty sure this arc he be losing more than you think especially if he destined to get a new sword later on which requires one of his blades to be broken for that. I am curious who be the one to do the deed though.
Though again hype for both characters to shown full potential for this arc no doubt. Been awhile since we have Monster Trio hype fights all together in a long time .
Don't hate Zoro, just dislike members of fan base on how they act .
After Hawkins, the hype went down though. Pretty sure this arc he be losing more than you think especially if he destined to get a new sword later on which requires one of his blades to be broken for that. I am curious who be the one to do the deed though.
Though again hype for both characters to shown full potential for this arc no doubt. Been awhile since we have Monster Trio hype fights all together in a long time .
You said several times that you are worried about Zoro and there is absolutely no need to be.
As I said, Zoro hype can only go up and after Hawkins it went up, I dont know where you saw it going down. Hawkins is a Supernova captain, which is a rank above Zoro and yet Zoro dealt with him very easy and Hawkins was annoyed by it.
Zoro wont be losing, thats only a wish you have. Breaking a sword doesnt mean losing and also breaking one of his swords means plot is nerfing Zoro since with 3 swords he is too strong.
With the hype going up people are starting to believe that Zoro is the strongest Supernova at this point or at least from the moment they entered the New World.
You said several times that you are worried about Zoro and there is absolutely no need to be.
As I said, Zoro hype can only go up and after Hawkins it went up, I dont know where you saw it going down. Hawkins is a Supernova captain, which is a rank above Zoro and yet Zoro dealt with him very easy and Hawkins was annoyed by it.
Zoro wont be losing, thats only a wish you have. Breaking a sword doesnt mean losing and also breaking one of his swords means plot is nerfing Zoro since with 3 swords he is too strong.
With the hype going up people are starting to believe that Zoro is the strongest Supernova at this point or at least from the moment they entered the New World.
You guys were saying he would defeat Hawkins with ease, look what happened. Got learn to accept faults and you were wrong. Especially now your saying that Zoro will face Kaido and hurt him despite Luffy got one-shotted. Hawkins wasn't annoyed much, just his usual expression and his abilities like that. That's not a win for him. Also losing does go with sword breaking cause Zoro sees it as a disgrace to himself as he is a sword owner. He doesn't like losing swords so it hurts him seeing that. Nah, not plot, just him preventing being Gary Sue . Plus I did said he get a new one, but must lose one if his too.
Its about being realistic and right now there is more hype things on than Zoro who lost hype due to Hawkins as you guys expected bletter as well other stuff too. Nothing wrong admitting character's faults, help you grow better.
"Strongest Supernova" Lol, dude that's overhype I am talking about. I am not putting Zoro that especially performance with Hawkins. Can't forget Luffy, Kidd, Law, Urouge, etc.. Until he show more worth and defeat someone credible, he's not anything like that. Not trying being mean, but realistic.
Now lets change the subject before our posts get deleted if we talk long on this.
I still feel confident on Sanji and Zoro team up on 2 Calamities as that be fun to see .
What is blocking the possibility of Zoro fighting Kaido and injuring him eventually? I never said Zoro would beat Kaido in 1vs1. Luffy may be as well weaker than Zoro at this point.
He went into pursuit after SHs and just lost one life so not only he failed to stop them from escaping but also lost another life in the process, his face shows that he is displeased and annoyed. Hawkins wanted to stop them, they wanted to escape. Who succeeded? Its a win for the escape team.
Also losing does go with sword breaking cause Zoro sees it as a disgrace to himself as he is a sword owner. He doesn't like losing swords so it hurts him seeing that. Nah, not plot, just him preventing being Gary Sue . Plus I did said he get a new one, but must lose one if his too.
Zoro broke/lost swords before without losing, it may hurt his pride as swordsman but thats only thing that may be hurting. If you paid attention so far, plot was nerfing Zoro in every second arc since he was too strong. He may or may not get a new sword, its a possibility not a must scenario.
Its about being realistic and right now there is more hype things on than Zoro who lost hype due to Hawkins as you guys expected bletter as well other stuff too. Nothing wrong admitting character's faults, help you grow better.
Hawkins in regards to Zoro is completely irrelevant at this point as they had just one clash. There first has to be a proper fight to judge how they compare and like i said, the hype has gone up since that moment as Zoro easily handled a Supernova captain with a broken ability and while using just 2 swords.
"Strongest Supernova" Lol, dude that's overhype I am talking about. I am not putting Zoro that especially performance with Hawkins. Can't forget Luffy, Kidd, Law, Urouge, etc.. Until he show more worth and defeat someone credible, he's not anything like that. Not trying being mean, but realistic.
It's very possible that he currently is on top among all Supernovas, swordsmen are extremely dangerous. The only challenge may be Kidd since his magnetic abilities affect Zoro's swords but Zoro isnt stopped that easily. If you want to be realistic, the only Supernova that could defend against Zoro properly are Law and Killer since they use swords as well but their swordsmanship skills are surely not on Zoro's level.
I was not wrong because I never claimed that Zoro would defeat Hawkins with easy. I said if they were to fight to the death Zoro would definitely win.
What is blocking the possibility of Zoro fighting Kaido and injuring him eventually? I never said Zoro would beat Kaido in 1vs1. Luffy may be as well weaker than Zoro at this point.
He went into pursuit after SHs and just lost one life so not only he failed to stop them from escaping but also lost another life in the process, his face shows that he is displeased and annoyed. Hawkins wanted to stop them, they wanted to escape. Who succeeded? Its a win for the escape team.
Zoro broke/lost swords before without losing, it may hurt his pride as swordsman but thats only thing that may be hurting. If you paid attention so far, plot was nerfing Zoro in every second arc since he was too strong. He may or may not get a new sword, its a possibility not a must scenario.
Hawkins in regards to Zoro is completely irrelevant at this point as they had just one clash. There first has to be a proper fight to judge how they compare and like i said, the hype has gone up since that moment as Zoro easily handled a Supernova captain with a broken ability and while using just 2 swords.
It's very possible that he currently is on top among all Supernovas, swordsmen are extremely dangerous. The only challenge may be Kidd since his magnetic abilities affect Zoro's swords but Zoro isnt stopped that easily. If you want to be realistic, the only Supernova that could defend against Zoro properly are Law and Killer since they use swords as well but their swordsmanship skills are surely not on Zoro's level.
Ok, I get the mods again if you don't leave me alone.
Nah, he already beaten Headliners unlike Zoro, so he is good and Zoro is getting new sword after losing, so he isn't anyone to talk XD. Sanji still have a lot more potential to show us here than Zoro have done so far in all honesty.
Yeah I loved Rorouni Kenshin and I noticed a lot of inspiration too but Idk if I can agree with this theory. Sanji is will Raid Suit Sanji and that will be his upgrade. Now maybe virbration might be a feature in the suit though but right now I think those techniques, if learned, are limited to people from the Kano country.
I had a theory that Vista might be from the Kano country because of his epithet. I think he might be called Flower sword not just because of his swords floral names but because he himself is from the flower country and knows Hasshoken but it just wasn't shown in the war of the greatest like how Haki was not really shown but we can deduce that people probably had and used Haki during the war.
Naw, sanji is way too weak to handle a top tier fighter, he's been dominated in almost every fight he's been in since they got to the new world. He got his leg broken by vergo, he got thrown like a ragdoll by daifuku, and couldn't even damage oven when he sucker kicked him. He got knocked out of the sky when he tried to save luffy and would've most likely been killed if his family didn't save him. His only major feat in the new world is baking a cake and replenishing the enemy to full strength. The monster trio no longer exists, franky is stronger than sanji at this point. I think Marco, inuarasha , or neko will handle the queen and king, with zoro handling orochi.
1. And if you look back pages and chapters, Sanji came out from Nami's body and felt how 'tired' it was due to Nami using it and also see Sanji sending him twice flying while making him bleed. Also you can see pages after the 'broken leg' that Sanji still kept walking and even run with that leg just fine as well fight with Vergo too, so your mistaken on him being push back lol.
Also so? Luffy admitted on being tough for him against Katakuri, but still won the fight and his action shown he will fight till he beat him to the end which is Sanji doing as he didn't stop until Vergo left, not him. The fight would continue to him winning in the end like it or not.
2. That is just a pushed back, not ragdoll at all. Dude, do you not know what a fight looks like nowadays in One Piece? Pushing an enemy back, isn't ragdolling when the fighters are still fighting back and forth and the anime showcase it more by Oda's order. Your tripping man.
3. Not excuses, facts. Unlike you denying them at every moment and factor when proof to showcase it. He didn't have much speed and momentum due to protecting and holding Luffy, not by himself. Duh, deal with it man. Also who cares his family help him? He is trying to protect someone, not get into a damn fight like you think he is by himself right now and take on everyone without concern Luffy's health. Stop now and come back when you think things through, dude.
4. Nah, I just told you proof and look back at it. Your the only one denying it again. Also who is 'she' now? He has worth, just you being a biased person with your logic though and he can fight high tier fighters if he want to take a fight seriously, those fights in WCI weren't serious as the arc was about escaping than defeating every opponent like Impel Down. Also how losing Doflamingo bad? He defated many fighters being Law and Zoro (via Birdcage) and now it's bad Sanji losing to him? Dude, again your biased is too out there and your not fair person to discuss this on really. Learnt o come back when your head is more clear and accepting than denying in your own headcannon in your mind.
Majority of his fighters were interrupted and holding back for reasoning, nothing supports he has shown his full potential and that's it and also you do know there is a thing called training and he is doing that like everyone else man. Now get lost before I get the mods on you on your attitude the same if you really want to stop talking on this.
Never called you a friend and also really? Welp new spoilers kinda prove you wrong on what he does as he still fighting. Again, take your biased hate to someone who cares already and sorry your Zoro is not doing great as you thought he was before, but hey he can sit back and be on the sidelines as Hawkins prove that he isn't able to hang high tier much really XD.
Are you a parrot? You kept repeating the same sentence about sanji vs vergo.
leg bones mean something,especially since sanji uses his legs to fight. He only can run fine because the fight got interrupted. 1 more minutes fighting vergo and sanji would become a cook in wheelchair.
when did sanji beat daifuku and oven? Daifuku was overpowering sanji. Oven still got up after he got attacked.
Then how Usopp and Harjudan win their fights if bone breaking mean something? You never answer that question and always dodge it and don't being a Broken Record, Loro. He still fought and ran with those legs, so your argument is dumb as heck about it. Come back again when you got legit facts.
Not what the manga and anime showed as he can even take on his giant genie version later on and can push the Genie back more. Also so? You know he wasn't trying to fight Oven for real. Though even so he made him bleed and damage as Oven felt the pain in his neck. He wouldn't last long in a real fight dude lol.
Then how Usopp and Harjudan win their fights if bone breaking mean something? You never answer that question and always dodge it and don't being a Broken Record, Loro. He still fought and ran with those legs, so your argument is dumb as heck about it. Come back again when you got legit facts.
Not what the manga and anime showed as he can even take on his giant genie version later on and can push the Genie back more. Also so? You know he wasn't trying to fight Oven for real. Though even so he made him bleed and damage as Oven felt the pain in his neck. He wouldn't last long in a real fight dude lol.
i answered this question already, when did i avoid it? Nice try,liar
usopp didnt have broken legs and arms ,only cracks on his head so he could still move his body and also he got help from chopper.
Hajruddin only did one final move gungnir to finish off the enemy then he fainted again. And his bones cracked when he did that final move, after that he stopped moving.
Now lets see your response for this.
anime is non canon, manga fact is sanji never can push daifuku. Headcanon for you to say oven would lose even though we never saw oven 100% yet.
1. And if you look back pages and chapters, Sanji came out from Nami's body and felt how 'tired' it was due to Nami using it and also see Sanji sending him twice flying while making him bleed. Also you can see pages after the 'broken leg' that Sanji still kept walking and even run with that leg just fine as well fight with Vergo too, so your mistaken on him being push back lol.
Also so? Luffy admitted on being tough for him against Katakuri, but still won the fight and his action shown he will fight till he beat him to the end which is Sanji doing as he didn't stop until Vergo left, not him. The fight would continue to him winning in the end like it or not.
2. That is just a pushed back, not ragdoll at all. Dude, do you not know what a fight looks like nowadays in One Piece? Pushing an enemy back, isn't ragdolling when the fighters are still fighting back and forth and the anime showcase it more by Oda's order. Your tripping man.
3. Not excuses, facts. Unlike you denying them at every moment and factor when proof to showcase it. He didn't have much speed and momentum due to protecting and holding Luffy, not by himself. Duh, deal with it man. Also who cares his family help him? He is trying to protect someone, not get into a damn fight like you think he is by himself right now and take on everyone without concern Luffy's health. Stop now and come back when you think things through, dude.
4. Nah, I just told you proof and look back at it. Your the only one denying it again. Also who is 'she' now? He has worth, just you being a biased person with your logic though and he can fight high tier fighters if he want to take a fight seriously, those fights in WCI weren't serious as the arc was about escaping than defeating every opponent like Impel Down. Also how losing Doflamingo bad? He defated many fighters being Law and Zoro (via Birdcage) and now it's bad Sanji losing to him? Dude, again your biased is too out there and your not fair person to discuss this on really. Learnt o come back when your head is more clear and accepting than denying in your own headcannon in your mind.
Majority of his fighters were interrupted and holding back for reasoning, nothing supports he has shown his full potential and that's it and also you do know there is a thing called training and he is doing that like everyone else man. Now get lost before I get the mods on you on your attitude the same if you really want to stop talking on this.
Never called you a friend and also really? Welp new spoilers kinda prove you wrong on what he does as he still fighting. Again, take your biased hate to someone who cares already and sorry your Zoro is not doing great as you thought he was before, but hey he can sit back and be on the sidelines as Hawkins prove that he isn't able to hang high tier much really XD.
1. that is one of the worst excuses ive ever heard, so you really think that because sanji got his own body back that he was weakened?? that makes absolute no sense and the manga never says this. Please I truly don't care about your fake stories that you make up, I want FACTS not conjecture. The FACT is that sanji got his leg broken after ONE hit to it and admitted he was in trouble if the fight continued. SANJI says in the manga that it would have been a problem, prove to me that it is false by showing me something in the manga that contradicts what SANJI himself says or you lost this argument because the burden of proof is on you now, I've given mine
2. I can't make you see it if you can't see it, they clashed and he got flung far away...that's being ragdolled, he got dominated in their clash. Anime is not canon the manga is, so telling me something about the anime means nothing when the argument is on mangahelpers about the manga. Again they clashed and sanji got flung far away easily without much resistance which is domination & I guarantee that daifuku is weaker than queen or king, so this completely nullifies your argument that he could handle them
3. No, they are excuses you said he could easily escape by himself but he was hindered by luffy, can you prove this?? it should be easy to show me if its facts, I can show you that while he tried to escape he got knocked out of the air and got saved by his family, this is a fact. You can't prove that wrong in the slightest so you also lost this point. even if I agree that he was hindered it doesn't change the fact that while trying to escape he got dominated once again and had to be saved once again...which seems to be the theme for sanji in the New World, he's a damsel in distress. show me proof that im wrong, I don't care about your opinions if you disagree, show me a panel
4)Ok you lost that argument, you saying something isn't proof, learn how to argue and just accept your loss, show me a panel
Every one of your arguments I've refuted and even gave proof to contradict what your saying, I don't respect or care about your opinion because you're clearly bias and are ignoring facts that don't fit your narrowminded view of OnePiece, I love this manga and I like arguing about it with others that can actually argue without being blinded by bias or that can actually argue points without resorting to namecalling, which you clearly are not capable of.
also zoro isn't even my favorite character kinda weird and insecure that you would bring that up when ive never mentioned him once
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