Discussion Sanji Discussion Thread

Who will be Sanji's main opponent during the Raid on Onigashima?


  • Total voters
    100

King Moe

Banned
MH中毒 / MH Chuudoku / MH Addicted
Joined
Mar 29, 2018
Messages
5,924
Reaction score
3,413
Age
31
Country
United States
because sanji couldn't beat vergo , who never showed feats comparable to what Pica did.



Proof that it's just regular nails? The nails coming from a huge straw monster. Pretty sure that's not something you commonly see.
Nope , his life has limits. Zoro only needs 1-2 more chapters to destroy Hawkins.
Sanji also got medical treatment from chopper. When did zoro ask for medical treatment? It was okiku who volunteered to aid him.
Never forget how zoro tanked all luffy's damages (who just fought a shichibukai) in thriller bark , while sanji is knocked out by only a single hit from zoro's sword hilt :super


"hold his own" , you mean like when sanji was overpowered by daifuku and thrown away? Or when sanji only can match and defend against daifuku attack while daifuku laughing at him? lol sanji fans are desperate.



Woah when did zoro fight doflamingo? Another headcanon from you.
Law didn't get beaten in 4-5 pages like sanji did against doflamingo though lol
Having difficulties against enemies, like luffy often does , indeed helps making you stronger.
But sanji being stomped by his enemies sure doesn't make him stronger :derp


another imaginary story from you.....
zoro asked orlumbus' help only to throw him towards pica , not to capture him......because pica was going to kill riku and usopp.
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---

zoro trusted luffy to defeat doflamingo, this is what we called a great crewmate.
unlike sanji who just attacked luffy in WCI , even though luffy willingfully went to WCI to get him back. What a douchebag.
--- Double Post Merged, ---

baseless accuse. How do you know i am a zoro fanboy even though i dont have zoro name on my username? King moe= troll confirmed
Sanji's fights has been hold back or interrupted, so we never seen full force of his abilities. WCI prove that more as he is able to land hits to big fighters like Daifuku and Oven and hold off against them with his own strength. Not putting much on what your saying dude.

If they were special nails, Hawkins would have use them when he was fighting with him. Nothing went with them afterwards, so yeah they were nails dude. You don't have anything to back up if they affected Zoro as we would have seen signs about that. Also nah, I feel he would have lost to Hawkins as he doesn't know how his DF works and it's tricky and while it has a limit amount to hold, he said he can make more, so kinda almost limitless especially if you think if he make Kaido's higher ups among his collection which Zoro couldn't do shit against more. Since when Sanji ask Chopper to ask him medical stuff? Didn't you see him not noticing until Chopper pointed it out. He didn't feel anything from that more than Zoro who groaned from nails as show in his chapter.

Despite tanking Luffy's pain, to groan from nails is a hype and character lost to him as he should be more durable than that. Too bad though and lol your using Sanji's sacrifice to make Zoro look good too? Please stop as we both know Sanji was willing to do it as much as Zoro and he cheap shot him and knock him in a good spot while still hurt as him from Kuma's attack. That means nothing, dude. I am seriously laughing at you using that to prove who is better when that situation was clear as day XD.

Who overpowered him? No one did in the arc and if your talking about him not fighting early, he was blackmail, please stop with your lies as Sanji can take on Daifuku and Oven with ease and wasn't trying looking for a fight, just for escaping like everyone else. Guys like you in the minority failed to understand the purpose of things in that arc so badly xD.

Zoro a swordsman didn't choose to cut the Birdcage when he see it and instead push against it. I know Zoro isn't the brightest man around, but for his first idea and instinct to not cut it, shows he wasn't confident on cutting the Birdcage, thus he couldn't do shit to Doflamingo either. Where in your mind think He can do better than Law and Sanji face to face to Doflamingo huh? Law was stomped in one chapter, what you saying? Also Sanji's opponents always get tougher thus more struggle for him. Who Zoro ever face against? Just Monet and Pica who were fodder as hell as anyone could beat them. No way you can compare them to much tougher opponents like Doflamingo lol.

Not imagine him, he did ask for help. So what logic are you thinking he never did? He ask few of the Starwhat Grand Fleet along with King with the powerful Punch to help him out in defeating Pica entirely. He couldn't have done everything on his own in your mind lol.

Nah, sound more like excuse than helping people when they are in danger right in your face. Sorry, you fail again. Try again and stop the biased. Sanji was blackmailed and his family was right there when they met Luffy, so your idea is he should have done something to help Luffy and thus Zeff dies from the hit on him and thus he lost someone out of helping a friend and try to work with them at that time? Again your logic is biased dude. Your not winning this argument if your picking scenes to your liking than to Oda's idea in the end. Sanji was justify in his position, Zoro wasn't.

You said "L" to Sanji fans and "Woro" in your name and your posts are proving my point. Dude, stop lying.
 

King Moe

Banned
MH中毒 / MH Chuudoku / MH Addicted
Joined
Mar 29, 2018
Messages
5,924
Reaction score
3,413
Age
31
Country
United States
yeah sanji got lucky that he could still his move his legs because the fight got interrupted. Just like sanji said, if the fight continues , it would have gone bad for him :derp
and vergo wasn't using all his power yet. We all know 100% vergo when his full body is coated with hardened haki.


proof?

Also like how you couldn't give any reply for the biased double standard you have between zoro and sanji. King Moe = sanji fanboy confirmed.
Luffy said that about Katakuri and he won his fight. Again, you judge by words, not by actions. Your argument isn't working on this at all. Sanji also got back into his body just now and haven't shown 100% either.

Proof? Lol, stop trolling. I can make a list of how durable he has shown us over the years. Dude you really need to reread/rewatch the series if your asking that.

I just give a reply to that. What you talking about? I am fan of all characters, but I don't like biased users like you if you can't be fair with what you said, so deal with it especially coming from Zoro fan of course. Hard to take you seriously XD.
 

Pirate Queen

Registered User
九千以上だ! / Kyuusen Ijou Da! / It's Over 9000!
Joined
Jun 1, 2010
Messages
9,678
Reaction score
17,734
Country
United States
The only thing I do not currently like about Sanji's fights is that he has yet to show "Hardening"

His name is "Black Leg" Sanji for goodness sake. Come on Oda! It's not that hard to appease us fans lol

I ultimately feel Sanji is under utilized and underestimated quite a bit due to his perceived portrayal during WCI.
 

King Moe

Banned
MH中毒 / MH Chuudoku / MH Addicted
Joined
Mar 29, 2018
Messages
5,924
Reaction score
3,413
Age
31
Country
United States
The only thing I do not currently like about Sanji's fights is that he has yet to show "Hardening"

His name is "Black Leg" Sanji for goodness sake. Come on Oda! It's not that hard to appease us fans lol

I ultimately feel Sanji is under utilized and underestimated quite a bit due to his perceived portrayal during WCI.
His performance is a bit lackluster for sure, but reasons for it to show he has shown 100% of what he can do yet and the latest arc is proving he will be up there for sure.
 

Shasha23

Banned
有名人 / Yuumeijin / Celebrity
Joined
Mar 14, 2015
Messages
2,547
Reaction score
1,684
Gender
Male
Country
South Africa
Same as Zoro too as he can beat Luffy opponents dude lol. You guys overhype him too much. Also Vegeta always lose to main villain and Goku beats him. What you mean?.
Yes your right Zoro can beat Luffy's opponents, over hype who?
Vegeta loses to the boss while Sanji is not even good enough to face the boss thats why Oda uses him to hype the bosses underlings by him losing to them!
 

King Moe

Banned
MH中毒 / MH Chuudoku / MH Addicted
Joined
Mar 29, 2018
Messages
5,924
Reaction score
3,413
Age
31
Country
United States
Yes your right Zoro can beat Luffy's opponents, over hype who?
Vegeta loses to the boss while Sanji is not even good enough to face the boss thats why Oda uses him to hype the bosses underlings by him losing to them!
He can't beat him. What you talking about? Every tine he face a serious opponent he gets drop look at Fujitora, Doflamingo, and now Hawkins. He is overhype as he not touching anyone from Luffy's and Sanji side.

Sanji have lost to main threat in the arc being Doflamingo just like Zoro same with Vegeta. Sanji and Zoro can still take on other opponents outside the boss.

Sanji never lost a fight to a underling of main threat and if you say Vergo, the fight ended interuptiom and we can't tell how the outcome could go. Sanji probably win the fight since Oda confirm the harder the fight, Haki grow stronger, you know? So your evidence isn't really backing.
 

Grandmaster Woro

Registered User
英雄メンバー / Eiyuu Menbaa / Hero Member
Joined
Nov 20, 2018
Messages
1,227
Reaction score
751
Age
41
Country
Austria
If they were special nails, Hawkins would have use them when he was fighting with him. Nothing went with them afterwards, so yeah they were nails dude. You don't have anything to back up if they affected Zoro as we would have seen signs about that. Also nah, I feel he would have lost to Hawkins as he doesn't know how his DF works and it's tricky and while it has a limit amount to hold, he said he can make more, so kinda almost limitless especially if you think if he make Kaido's higher ups among his collection which Zoro couldn't do shit against more. He didn't feel anything from that more than Zoro who groaned from nails as show in his chapter.

Despite tanking Luffy's pain, to groan from nails is a hype and character lost to him as he should be more durable than that. Too bad though and lol your using Sanji's sacrifice to make Zoro look good too? Please stop as we both know Sanji was willing to do it as much as Zoro That means nothing, dude. I am seriously laughing at you using that to prove who is better when that situation was clear as day XD.

.
Sanji's fights has been hold back or interrupted, so we never seen full force of his abilities.
Biased concept from you again.....when zoro didn't finish the fight somehow he "lost" the fight but when sanji was getting his legs broken, it's suddenly "we never seen full force of his abilities" . The irony is how you kept accusing people as "biased" while you contradicted yourself with your own logic. Another L for sanji fans.
Zoro could figure out how pica's devil fruit work out, so zoro might also be possible to figure out hawkins' devil fruit. Zoro can get his own plan (like plan E towards pica) unlike sanji whose only plan to save luffy post katakuri fight is grab-and-run :derp
Also , didn't hawkin explain his power already to zoro and luffy.

Only a groan from lots of nail shots actually is impressive. Most people would feel pain when being hit in the face with sharp objects like that. The fact is zoro already managed to kill hawkins twice, if only not for hawkins having two straw dolls to save him.


Since when Sanji ask Chopper to ask him medical stuff? Didn't you see him not noticing until Chopper pointed it out.
When did zoro ask okiku for medical aid?

and he cheap shot him and knock him in a good spot while still hurt as him from Kuma's attack.
i love how you mentioned the cheap shot thing. You know , since all sanji attacks to vergo,oven,doflamingo also started from cheap shot. None of those got knocked out though. Only sanji got one-shotted :teehee
Zoro a swordsman didn't choose to cut the Birdcage when he see it and instead push against it. I know Zoro isn't the brightest man around, but for his first idea and instinct to not cut it, shows he wasn't confident on cutting the Birdcage, thus he couldn't do shit to Doflamingo either. Law was stomped in one chapter, what you saying? Also Sanji's opponents always get tougher thus more struggle for him. Who Zoro ever face against? Just Monet and Pica who were fodder as hell as anyone could beat them. No way you can compare them to much tougher opponents like Doflamingo lol.
Seemed like you never read alabasta arc. It was mentioned during one of his flashback that a great swordsman is not the one who cut everything , but the one who decide what to cut or not. Zoro trusted luffy to finish his job to take down doflamingo (admirable trait of a crew mate towards his captain, unlike a certain guy who decided to kick his own captain for being nice enough to help him).
Pica is not fodder . He shows destructive feats beyond what vergo did. And yet zoro defeated him without any significant injuries. Nice try , zoro haters.
when did I say Law got stomped in a chapter? Another lie from you.

WCI prove that more as he is able to land hits to big fighters like Daifuku
when did sanji land a hit to daifuku?

Where in your mind think He can do better than Law and Sanji face to face to Doflamingo huh?
Zoro didn't get beaten in 4-5 pages against fujitora in the first clash , unlike what happened to sanji against doflamingo
zoro also casually clashed with fujitora when he and luffy were going to the plateau.
Simple deduction can infer that zoro also can hold his ground against doflamingo. We haven't even considered the power of ashura zoro post time-skip. Sorry to hear sanji is being destroyed by doflamingo by the way , lol.


Who overpowered him?
Daifuku. When he and sanji clashed during the wedding. Please read the WCI manga again before you commented here.
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---
He can't beat him. What you talking about? Every tine he face a serious opponent he gets drop look at Fujitora, Doflamingo, and now Hawkins. He is overhype as he not touching anyone from Luffy's and Sanji side.

Sanji have lost to main threat in the arc being Doflamingo just like Zoro same with Vegeta. Sanji and Zoro can still take on other opponents outside the boss.

Sanji never lost a fight to a underling of main threat and if you say Vergo, the fight ended interuptiom and we can't tell how the outcome could go. Sanji probably win the fight since Oda confirm the harder the fight, Haki grow stronger, you know? So your evidence isn't really backing.
love how somehow zoro "gets drop look" from hawkins but sanji against vergo is "the fight ended interuptiom and we can't tell how the outcome could go" . Seemed like you are the one who needs better evidence.
 

Grandmaster Woro

Registered User
英雄メンバー / Eiyuu Menbaa / Hero Member
Joined
Nov 20, 2018
Messages
1,227
Reaction score
751
Age
41
Country
Austria
Luffy said that about Katakuri and he won his fight. Again, you judge by words, not by actions. Your argument isn't working on this at all. Sanji also got back into his body just now and haven't shown 100% either.
sanji already did 100%. Diable jamble is his 100% power, just like G4 is luffy's 100% and ashura form is zoro's 100%
vergo however, wasn't using fully-hardened haki towards sanji.

Proof? Lol, stop trolling. I can make a list of how durable he has shown us over the years. Dude you really need to reread/rewatch the series if your asking that.
you mean like when sanji got one-shotted by zoro's sword hilt? :derp So much for durability

I just give a reply to that.
I don't see your reply to nik87. Nice lie , troll.

What you talking about? I am fan of all characters, but I don't like biased users like you if you can't be fair with what you said, so deal with it especially coming from Zoro fan of course. Hard to take you seriously XD.
said the guy who literally made double standard comparison of zoro vs hawkins and sanji vs vergo.
Ironic said hi to you.......
 

Grandmaster Woro

Registered User
英雄メンバー / Eiyuu Menbaa / Hero Member
Joined
Nov 20, 2018
Messages
1,227
Reaction score
751
Age
41
Country
Austria
You mean someone who at that point was probably the toughest arc opponent Luffy has faced who had little problem dealing with Luffy until he used Gear 4? Same someone who'd have likely beaten Luffy, and someone who had to bind Sanji and make him unable to move, who also complimented Sanji? If Luffy couldn't expand with haki, he wouldn't have broken out of the strings and likely would have died after his haki came back.
you said that sanji hasn't lose to anyone clean in a fight.
I gave you doflamingo . I never said doflamingo is a weakling
 

nik87

Banned
有名人 / Yuumeijin / Celebrity
Joined
Aug 25, 2016
Messages
3,658
Reaction score
3,348
Country
The Wall
We all know that Zoro-senpai is the real MVP in this arc.
He will first bump into Orochi and defeat him like he defeated Ryuuma, without a single scratch.
Then his and Hawkins' paths will cross again and Zoro-senpai will one-shot him with Black Rope Dragon Twister. Or would you call that 11-shot? :hmm
Then the King's fate will be sealed by putting him on Zoro's path and Asura will strike down the Wildfire.
Lastly, Zoro will grant Kaido his wish to die and will send him to hell, Zoro is death himself.

No overhype, sorry for the spoilers. :hip
 

King Moe

Banned
MH中毒 / MH Chuudoku / MH Addicted
Joined
Mar 29, 2018
Messages
5,924
Reaction score
3,413
Age
31
Country
United States
We all know that Zoro-senpai is the real MVP in this arc.
He will first bump into Orochi and defeat him like he defeated Ryuuma, without a single scratch.
Then his and Hawkins' paths will cross again and Zoro-senpai will one-shot him with Black Rope Dragon Twister. Or would you call that 11-shot? :hmm
Then the King's fate will be sealed by putting him on Zoro's path and Asura will strike down the Wildfire.
Lastly, Zoro will grant Kaido his wish to die and will send him to hell, Zoro is death himself.

No overhype, sorry for the spoilers. :hip
Nah, that is overhype if you think the guy who got bested by Hawkins will defeat Orochi, then a Yonko Commander, and the belief he can harm Kaido is overhype to the tier, so sorry Zoro dummies, but not going to happen as Zoro going to get his ass handed to him this arc more.
 

nik87

Banned
有名人 / Yuumeijin / Celebrity
Joined
Aug 25, 2016
Messages
3,658
Reaction score
3,348
Country
The Wall
Nah, that is overhype if you think the guy who got bested by Hawkins will defeat Orochi, then a Yonko Commander, and the belief he can harm Kaido is overhype to the tier, so sorry Zoro dummies, but not going to happen as Zoro going to get his ass handed to him this arc more.
You got any proof that Zoro cant do those things? :hmm
 

Grandmaster Woro

Registered User
英雄メンバー / Eiyuu Menbaa / Hero Member
Joined
Nov 20, 2018
Messages
1,227
Reaction score
751
Age
41
Country
Austria
All some of his fights have handicap and interrupted, so your stretching, but Zoro's been using more full power looking at Pica's fight as he strain on using all out force on him. Please stop with the fake facts along with Vergo and Sanji fights as neither were at their fullest.
.
when did zoro use ashura against pica? Keep lying to yourself

Not really, Sanji was clearly handicap, Zoro wasn't. So your saying his Haki isn't good enough to predict attacks like nails at him then? Wow, your hypocritical for sure
why did sanji suddenly get handicapped? Is this to make another headcanon for you?
If you want to say that sanji got his body hurt from caesar attacks , then that means sanji isn't as durable as what you claimed :derp
also he never mentioned anything about being handicapped on his fight against vergo.....
zoro needs to protect okiku and luffy behind him so he needs to put his body against the nails. Zoro didn't get his legs broken though unlike sanji.

And Zoro being put to sleep by Yeti-Brothers?
and so did sanji. Why didn't you mention sanji though? Another biased argument from you


Since when it's stated it's his full power after timeskip lol.
proof that he has more powerup? Keep dreaming ,sanji fanboy
he had difficulties against vergo,doflamingo, and in WCI , why would he hold back any hidden powerup? Seemed like this logic never occured on your mind.

You know I am posting one at a time, right? Nice try troll.
where is your reply though? You even had time to reply to me continuously, yet no time to reply him?Seemed like you just ran away from his question.
 

Shasha23

Banned
有名人 / Yuumeijin / Celebrity
Joined
Mar 14, 2015
Messages
2,547
Reaction score
1,684
Gender
Male
Country
South Africa
He can't beat him. What you talking about? Every tine he face a serious opponent he gets drop look at Fujitora, Doflamingo, and now Hawkins. He is overhype as he not touching anyone from Luffy's and Sanji side.

Sanji have lost to main threat in the arc being Doflamingo just like Zoro same with Vegeta. Sanji and Zoro can still take on other opponents outside the boss.

Sanji never lost a fight to a underling of main threat and if you say Vergo, the fight ended interuptiom and we can't tell how the outcome could go. Sanji probably win the fight since Oda confirm the harder the fight, Haki grow stronger, you know? So your evidence isn't really backing.
He cant beat who? he gets "drop"didnt know the One Piece your reading is that kind of manga , so he gave it out to Fuji, Doffy and Hawkins wow, did they run a train on him?

When did Zoro fight Doffy, as i remember Doffy ran away and had to be protected by a marine admiral from Zoro, name one person besides Mihawk and Kizaru who have beaten him please and no way Luffy can beat those 2.
Lets see, Sanji lost to Gin, Pearl, Snow Rabbits, Kalifa, Blueno, Absalom, Vergo, Law, Doffy, Viola, Bege, Niji, Ichiji, Yonji, Judge and Daifuku WOW what a legend he is the king of L's
 

Grandmaster Woro

Registered User
英雄メンバー / Eiyuu Menbaa / Hero Member
Joined
Nov 20, 2018
Messages
1,227
Reaction score
751
Age
41
Country
Austria
You got any proof that Zoro cant do those things? :hmm
yeah. Actually, based from past performance , sanji seemed like the one who will be beaten a lot in this arc
 

Grandmaster Woro

Registered User
英雄メンバー / Eiyuu Menbaa / Hero Member
Joined
Nov 20, 2018
Messages
1,227
Reaction score
751
Age
41
Country
Austria
Nah, Zoro is true King of Ls and he proves it canon too. Nice try though ;).
still no broken legs though
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---
sanji also almost died from kaidou's heat breath lol thank god shinobu has great tricks
 

King Moe

Banned
MH中毒 / MH Chuudoku / MH Addicted
Joined
Mar 29, 2018
Messages
5,924
Reaction score
3,413
Age
31
Country
United States
when did zoro use ashura against pica? Keep lying to yourself


why did sanji suddenly get handicapped? Is this to make another headcanon for you?
If you want to say that sanji got his body hurt from caesar attacks , then that means sanji isn't as durable as what you claimed :derp
also he never mentioned anything about being handicapped on his fight against vergo.....
zoro needs to protect okiku and luffy behind him so he needs to put his body against the nails. Zoro didn't get his legs broken though unlike sanji.


and so did sanji. Why didn't you mention sanji though? Another biased argument from you



proof that he has more powerup? Keep dreaming ,sanji fanboy
he had difficulties against vergo,doflamingo, and in WCI , why would he hold back any hidden powerup? Seemed like this logic never occured on your mind.


where is your reply though? You even had time to reply to me continuously, yet no time to reply him?Seemed like you just ran away from his question.
What? I never said that. I think your confusing yourself in your talk dude.

What? Dude again you make no sense on what your saying. Sanji was handicapped when switch back to his body before going into a fight. It was clearly shown. Law's power affected him as he switch bodies with someone lol. Why Oda need to say it? It was clear as day just like you denying that Zoro can take Doflamingo despite he couldn't cut his strings, so what base you have on that as you have none at all.

Again, broken record. His leg was fine dude after the fight, Zoro wasn't since he was still bleeding, don't you know logic, but your Zoro fan, so.....

He hasn't shown full kicking techniques in Diamble Jamble and Haki format, can increase more his Haki, and has a Raid Suit and your saying he won't get stronger? Your really are a troll. Also do did Law and Luffy, so does that mean they aren't getting stronger too? Please stop, your not making sense anymore and desperately trying too much.

You know one at a time, right? Got to learn to listen.
 

King Moe

Banned
MH中毒 / MH Chuudoku / MH Addicted
Joined
Mar 29, 2018
Messages
5,924
Reaction score
3,413
Age
31
Country
United States
still no broken legs though
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---
sanji also almost died from kaidou's heat breath lol thank god shinobu has great tricks
Legs still walking fine, but nails he need treatment for afterwards XD.
 

Grandmaster Woro

Registered User
英雄メンバー / Eiyuu Menbaa / Hero Member
Joined
Nov 20, 2018
Messages
1,227
Reaction score
751
Age
41
Country
Austria
Legs still walking fine, but nails he need treatment for afterwards XD.
you mean like sanji who was on his knee and feeling pain? And zoro who didn't get his bones broken? Yeah i remember that
 
Top