i can handle and admit being wrong, but this isn't the case.
Tbh that wasn't the real discussion. King Moe claimed that Sanji tanked King's attack through haki, rather than thanks to the RS, and when called out he somehow made the topic to "Sanji has haki and it's hard to see so of course he tanked King's attack thanks to his haki".Why is there a discussion about Sanji has CoA or not? And need to point towards anime?
No need for discussion when its been explicitly said in the manga. Hope this clears up everyone's doubt.
The discussion is about whether or not Sanji was capable of Hardening. We know he can use the basic form of CoA, but there are/were those who think he isn't capable of hardening because it hasn't been made more obvious in the manga.
Given panels of manga combine shown in anime like recent episode, it shows clearly Sanji been using COA: Armament Hardening in those moments. Oda wouldn't let Anime give him that level if he wasn't sure on it.
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It's mixture of both. I never said RS didn't do anything. Though no proof to say Sanji can't use Haki while wearing RS. Due to both having color scheme in dark-colored, it's hard to see them using Hardening, but obviously they can do it.
when did anyone say sanji can't use haki while using RS? Lol
We don't see characters saying it was Haki that helps them out when during a fight. I am aware what RS is, but doubt Sanji going into a fight and won't use Haki against YC lvl threat. I said mixture of both, not only one of them. Got pay more attention what I stated as never said it was because of one thing.
i also don't doubt sanji was using haki against king attack. But what i and everyone here doubt is that his haki alone makes him able to "tank the zoan attack" when clearly sanji acknowledged the durability of RS. If his haki managed to do that, as you claimed, then why did sanji need to admit about the RS's benefits on him? Clearly RS helped him to survive the attack
I said mixture of both as why wouldn't Sanji use Haki to defend himself? He show using Haki flexibility like Luffy for offense and defense. I am just saying combination of both as Sanji doesn't rely RS only for him to fight. Never said it was only one thing that you keep forcing when I keep saying both.
it's a mixture, so it's not his haki alone that protects him, but also his RS?
Never denied RS being involve, so Idk where your pushing on, but nothing to debate on if we acknowledge usage of RS. Think your losing point of what we were all discussion early when the talk got startedit's a mixture, so it's not his haki alone that protects him, but also his RS?
That's what everyone has been saying to you
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Dude there’s difference between vulnerable and not being a tank. Zoro is just as much of a tank as Sanji no matter how silly you want to be with the arguments. I’m not a fan of the annoying Zoro fan base overhyping him but when I say vulnerable I’ve a combat without weapons or that not a surprise attack Zoro doesn’t take direct damage as he blocks with his sword and sanji blocks with his actual body so Sanji more likely to supper damage
If you saying like that I can see why, but just saying even with Zoro's swords, attacks can get through him more compare from what we seen on Sanji who more fine in tanking attacks from what is shown. Though thanks for explaining it out on what you mean there.
well his swords is not really a suit, so his body is still vulnerable to attacks
well duh sanji was wearing the RS that protects his body. Sanji without RS had his legs broken by one hit from vergo.
Last time I check Sanji was fine tanking Drake and Kanjuro's attacks without injuries with no RS while former couldn't handle shoulder stab and fainting soon after. Let's not make this S vs Z again here. We talking more on Sanji as he growing stronger and preparing for future fights after all.
sanji was wounded against drake. Sanji could never land a clean hit to drake
Where? After everyone went their paths, we saw Sanji again and he was fined with no visible injury. Sanji wasn't using his full power, but yet still Drake couldn't' attack him multiple times except that one hit and tank it.
He was shown fine after his fight with Drake with no medical stuff on him. So that was more debris than him seriously getting hurt. Sanji been durable without and with RS. Also surprise your ignoring Kanjuro's attack which he came out unscathed too. He never went full power which you have no proof in any of those fights and shown he can tank without RS. Not angry, just telling you clear facts over the issues of your posts as you can't praise nothing on character and trying to ignore that.
Sanji was easily knocked down by a swing of his tail and was visibly wounded in the last panel.
As can be seen above, sanji also already went full power with diable jambe. Sanji lost in that skirmish.
No need to be angry at me, i am just telling you facts.
when did i say sanji was seriously hurt? I am just saying sanji was wounded there.