Discussion Sanji Discussion Thread

[Ramen]

They equal in strength on how Oda always put them together as well their rivalry.

And Zoro is still the YC1.

Databooks can't be updated. Oda can change it by SBS or in the series. Sanji vs King look more forthcoming to happen especially King would hold a grudge on him early.

And Zoro is still the YC1.

Considering YC isn't a power level thing.

Databooks can't be updated. Oda can change it by SBS or in the series. Sanji vs King look more forthcoming to happen especially King would hold a grudge on him early.

He's never changed it in the SBS.


Why is this so hard to understand? Oda said Zoro was the YC1.

 

[King Moe]

Oh yeah I totally agree ! I mean I don't hate Sanji he became really meh after TS. He's simping has become really annoying not gonna lie but no one can deny that he's strong. Strong enough to be Luffy's YC2. And even if Yamato, if she join, and Jinbei end up being stronger than him, he'll still be YC2
Zoro's position as YC1 won't change either no matter what. He'll always be Luffy's first mate even after becoming WSS

Sanji already stronger than Jimbei and Yamato though. If he can fight with King without getting hurt that really says something about him. If you mean by first mate, I agree on Zoro. Though power-wise they are same level though.

I mean not dumping if he wants to leave area to go somewhere last time we saw him. Though more annoy with Zoro wrecking plans and getting nowadays to be hobest, but I know he is YC lvl at least.

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And Zoro is still the YC1.



And Zoro is still the YC1.

Considering YC isn't a power level thing.



He's never changed it in the SBS.


Why is this so hard to understand? Oda said Zoro was the YC1.

Spamming not allowed and recent databooks haven't said anything on that. Idk what you mean. SBS or Oda in manga states the level and last time we saw things mention on them is that Queen saw them biggest threats next to Luffy. He likes rivalry and being back and forth on who is stronger.

 

[Ramen]

Spamming not allowed

I didn't spam.

SBS or Oda in manga states the level and last time we saw things mention on them is that Queen saw them biggest threats next to Luffy. He likes rivalry and being back and forth on who is stronger.

I'm going to say this one last time.

YC1 = the first mate/vice captain of the crew. Now, Zoro was the first mate and always will be. It is not a question of strength.

You wanna keep babbling on about their rivalry then go ahead, I'm not denying their rivalry but it doesn't change that Zoro is the YC1 now and forever.

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So in the end it doesn't change what I said. I would like to see the YC2's go at it.

 

[King Moe]

I didn't spam.



I'm going to say this one last time.

YC1 = the first mate/vice captain of the crew. Now, Zoro was the first mate and always will be. It is not a question of strength.

You wanna keep babbling on about their rivalry then go ahead, I'm not denying their rivalry but it doesn't change that Zoro is the YC1 now and forever.

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So in the end it doesn't change what I said. I would like to see the YC2's go at it.

Is that what you mean whole time? Talking about position, not power? Of course he is first-mate. VC....Idk about that. When Luffy isn't around Sanji, Zoro, and now Jimbei can lead the crew, not just him.

Sorry if that what you been stating, but confusing a bit what you mean. Though power wise, both are YC1 though.

 

[Ramen]

s that what you mean whole time? Talking about position, not power? Of course he is first-mate.

@Moegara @The Prince of Darkness Look at this

 

[King Moe]

@Moegara @The Prince of Darkness Look at this

Your one who didn't explained yourself much on what you mean. Saying YC1 doesn't really state to first mate or VC the same thing. Not always that dynamic

 

[Ramen]

Your one who didn't explained yourself much on what you mean. Saying YC1 doesn't really state to first mate or VC the same thing. Not always that dynamic

WHAAAAAAAAAAAT? I literally told you it doesn't represent power levels and that it represents the first mate in my original comment. Right here is the proof.

Do you know what is YC1? It's the captains right hand man. YC1 isn't a power level lmao.

His vivre card confirms he's the YC1.

lul

How on earth did I not explain it enough? I even put the vivre cared where it talks about Zoro being the captain.

.

 

[King Moe]

WHAAAAAAAAAAAT? I literally told you it doesn't represent power levels and that it represents the first mate in my original comment. Right here is the proof.



How on earth did I not explain it enough? I even put the vivre cared where it talks about Zoro being the captain.

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Just now in that recent post above. Not early when you was pushing about power who face who.

I never denied him being First Mate. I was talking on scaling early since you mention Sanji won't face King over YC1 comments.

 

[Ramen]

Just now in that recent post above. Not early when you was pushing about power who face who.

No, that was my original comment from the beginning that I just quoted. Click on it, it'll take you to the beginning.

I never denied him being First Mate. I was talking on scaling early since you mention Sanji won't face King over YC1 comments.

I said YC1 isn't a power level (which it isn't) and I said I would prefer if he faced Queen. Nothing wrong with that. Sanji and Queen are YC2's and I said I believe they will fight each other. I don't see the problem with that.

 

[King Moe]

No, that was my original comment from the beginning that I just quoted. Click on it, it'll take you to the beginning.



I said YC1 isn't a power level (which it isn't) and I said I would prefer if he faced Queen. Nothing wrong with that. Sanji and Queen are YC2's and I said I believe they will fight each other. I don't see the problem with that.

Ah so misunderstanding on both sides then? I don't mind Sanji facing Queen, but Sanji vs King in Sky Battle still got too much potential to not happen then facing another grounded opponent.

I am interested in Queen vs Zoro given both keep having similar traits to now recent gun in his mouth to match Zoro with sword in his mouth. Their fighting styles are now similar to each lol.

 

[Ramen]

Ah so misunderstanding on both sides then?

No because nothing I said was wrong. You got mixed.....not my fault. My stuff was clear from the beginning.

Sky Battle still got too much potential to not happen then facing another grounded opponent.

If were going off the logic of sky battles then it'll be Marco v King

I am interested in Queen vs Zoro given both keep having similar traits to now recent gun in his mouth to match Zoro with sword in his mouth. Their fighting styles are now similar to each lol.

That's cool and I think if they fought it would be great. I am sticking with my choice of King v Zoro.

 

[King Moe]

No because nothing I said was wrong. You got mixed.....not my fault. My stuff was clear from the beginning.



If were going off the logic of sky battles then it'll be Marco v King



That's cool and I think if they fought it would be great. I am sticking with my choice of King v Zoro.

Nah you were misleading on your YC1 comments especially who face who.

Macro got help with 2 Yonkos, then YCs right now though. Give room on Sanji facing him or teamup on King with Fiery Sky Battle.

Don't want an Pica situation where Zoro has to chase someone he can't reach. Not going to be it respectfully. Let fighting of Queen and Zoro happen as gun mouth vs sword mouth is calling for that .

 

[Ramen]

Nah you were misleading on your YC1 comments especially who face who.

No I wasn't. I clearly said YC2 vs YC2 is Sanji v Queen because neither of them are the YC1.

If somebody talks about a battle of YC1 then by default you should know Sanji is excluded because he's not the YC1.

 

[M3J]

I wouldn't mind Sanji fighting King or Queen, but if the Monster Trio fights Kaidou, that'd be super orgasmic as we haven't seen them fight together since... I dunno when. Fishman Island? Alabasta? I think Sanji would be fun to watch as he's easier to keep up with with his martial arts.

 

[King Moe]

No I wasn't. I clearly said YC2 vs YC2 is Sanji v Queen because neither of them are the YC1.

If somebody talks about a battle of YC1 then by default you should know Sanji is excluded because he's not the YC1.

You stated it like it was power-scaling than position though. If your talking about First Mate, make sense, but YC1 is more talk on power level than rank especially Sanji already can fight with King and still continue.

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I wouldn't mind Sanji fighting King or Queen, but if the Monster Trio fights Kaidou, that'd be super orgasmic as we haven't seen them fight together since... I dunno when. Fishman Island? Alabasta? I think Sanji would be fun to watch as he's easier to keep up with with his martial arts.

If we going by recent color chapter, foreshadowing of Sanji facing Kaido given Fish stuff being added and plus he been constant about wanting to head up there, so possibility to fight against Kaido as well expending legend of Black Leg/'Soba-Mask' will be added on that.

 

[Ramen]

You stated it like it was power-scaling than position though. If your talking about First Mate, make sense, but YC1 is more talk on power level than rank especially Sanji already can fight with King and still continue.

What? Every single comment of mine stated it wasn't a power scaling thing.

I wouldn't put Sanji as Kings equal because of one attack. Wait and see what happens. If that's the case then Marco = Kizaru and Aokiji which we know isn't true.

Most YC1s we haven't seen in an actual fight be it Beckmann, Marco, Shiryu or King. So you can't scale them based off of Katakuri's fight.

 

[King Moe]

What? Every single comment of mine stated it wasn't a power scaling thing.

I wouldn't put Sanji as Kings equal because of one attack. Wait and see what happens. If that's the case then Marco = Kizaru and Aokiji which we know isn't true.

Most YC1s we haven't seen in an actual fight be it Beckmann, Marco, Shiryu or King. So you can't scale them based off of Katakuri's fight.

I said you make it sound like that given many use that term as a power-scaling, so thought you were pushing that narrative to state something else.

He tank King's Full Zoan attack and came out fine too. If he was fine from those and we see him fighting afterwards, he is on the level to face King. Well depends as Macro looks like he is showing to be into that Admiral level given he is able to get by 2 YCs, so hard to say since we didn't see a full fight.

True, but just saying that term is use more as power-scaling than ranking around here. Just thought you were implying something else.

 

[Ramen]

He tank King's Full Zoan attack and came out fine too. If he was fine from those and we see him fighting afterwards, he is on the level to face King.

Not necessarily, it was one attack. Marco took many of Kizarus attack, does that mean they're equal? No...

 

[King Moe]

Not necessarily, it was one attack. Marco took many of Kizarus attack, does that mean they're equal? No...

2 actually. Block his kick and tank his Full Zoan. Able to take his force and come back fine shows he has strength to fight one.

Wouldn't use that the same given Seastone was use in the fight to stop Marco, so kinda unfair assumption on Macro's full power if wasn't for that.

 

[Ramen]

2 actually. Block his kick and tank his Full Zoan. Able to take his force and cone back fine shows he gas strength to fight one.

Wouldn't use that the same given Seastone was use in the fight to stop Marco, so kinda unfair assumption on Macro's full power if wasn't for that.

Seastone wasn't used in Marcos fights against the admirals.


I don't disagree with saying that the fight would be a tough one because I think that too. However, 2 attacks does not make 2 people equal.