Discussion Sanji Discussion Thread

[Prince13333]

I brought it up for that specific example to show what the "monsters" in big mom's crew are. I know oven and perospero have lower bounties than pedro or tamago though I would still make the case they are substantially stronger than the likes of pedro or tamago.

Nami and ussop got owned by topo robi, it's wasn't much of a fight. I would also make the case that the topo robi are at best lackluster in general so if they lose to the non luffy, zoro jinbe strawhats its not because the strawhats were strong but rather because the topo robi are shit.

Chopper got a free shot on queen because marco helped him.. Obviously chopper isn't on the level with REAL yonko executives. If the strawhats were on the level with real yonko crews then franky's and brook's analogues in yonko crews would exactly the likes of oven, daifuku, doflamingo, ace, whoever is fourth and fifth strongest in BB's crew and so on...

The reason yonko crews are essentially monstrous is because doflamingo falls short of top 3 yonko commanders and non of his executives holds a candle to proper yonko executives. Though I suppose with the topo robi being shit perhaps the likes of vergo or pica would make the cut....

Ok so what are you going to say if Sanji ,who is suppose to be fodder, like you guys preach ends up beating Queens ass?

 

[kkck]

Ok so what are you going to say if Sanji ,who is suppose to be fodder, like you guys preach ends up beating Queens ass?

Same thing most people said when luffy defeated crocodile (to the point where even oda has made the point that happened way too soon): BS.

 

[Prince13333]

Same thing most people said when luffy defeated crocodile (to the point where even oda has made the point that happened way too soon): BS.

Im just sayin man, were past the khalifa stage, you know what happened after khalifa.....10 chapters of absence and then bam.
Regardless if it makes sense or not Its coming......

 

[Fox666]

to the point where even oda has made the point that happened way too soon

I think that may have been a hoax...

 

[XXGenesis]

Sanji is low commander level due to hype and the law of shounen characters get stronger arc to arc.

Sanji’s is going to get the law of shounen + his equipment boost via RS, which makes up for his lack in Haki mastery.....

Haki is the cornerstone for fights and Sanji isn’t a threat in any of them beside maybe CoO, and his RS seems to have up’s his attack power.

 

[JStackz26]

I just saw a collage about laugh tale. And at this point I'm not so unsure its a story about how Oda took Sanji from being a badask monster Trio character to weakling and laughing stock. That's probably what Roger Rayleigh and Oden were laughing about.

"And then in the huge Battle of Wano with all these big shots amd powerful fighters present he thought he was going to the rooftop to face Kaido and Big Mom with the rest of the Supernova, but he just ends up crying like he did in Whole Cake Island. And while everyone is doing badask stuff on Onigashima and even Orochi survived Kaido, Sanji is over here getting captured screaming Nico Robin help me I got captured. And everyone can hear it. And he sounds like Chopper, Usopp and Nami. We had to give him invisibility to cheap shot because he's too weak to fight straight up."

I have no faith that Oda will write up anything redeeming for Sanji. And I don't mean that he dodged Katakuri. I'll give Oda that though. He had Sanji in base form dodge a character who can see in the future and is pretty fast himself. And has better CoO than Big Mom. And yet Sanji was able to dodge an unexpected tiny jelly bean at that speed. And the glare after. Against Big Mom's Number 2/First Mate. THAT'S THE REAL SANJI.
This other stuff Oda is pulling is a bit off. He did then show off Sanji withstanding King. But that is basically him using armor. Its like Oda just completely forgot to develop Sanji as a fighter and constantly has him in Diable Jambe mode. I wonder if Oda is going to eventually give Sanji an advanced version of it? Not hell's memories but something way more advanced. He may not be Luffy where he can use a devil fruit but Diable Jambe imbued with Haki shouldn't be an issue. Well it may be too advanced. But he should be able to do what Luffy can in terms of having advanced forms of his ability. Obviously he can't bite into his leg but Oda really needs to improve the original non raid suit Sanji. But Oda has to have more up his sleeve for the character.

All that Sanji will never be this cool again stuff is nonsense if he means the character will fall into obscurity. By be this cool again, I hope Oda is trying to say he will get a stronger Diable Jambe.

What would be really cool is that in Enies Lobby
Tekkai: Iron Body
Luffy: Brute Force Through it
Zoro: Cut Through it
Sanji: Burn Through it

Kaido & Big Mom: Impenetrable Skin
Luffy: Brute Force Through It
Zoro: Cut Through it
Sanji: Burn Through it

I mean they had Sanji (I know its the anime) fighting against Oven's Devil Fruit. Which was strong enough to burn Pedro's sword out his hand and melt the sea. Which of course why should Kaido not be able to get burned by heat since he boiled Oden alive. It would complete things full circle.

But damn straight Sanji should be able to burn through Kaido amd Big Mom.

 

[King Moe]

Can we stop on thinking Sanji won't do anything this arc or won't fight someone stronger? You guys logic doesn't make sense at all and also illogical to say haven't beaten anyone in timeskip when he already shown he have even recently on PO and Drake. Now you guys on letting too much him not fighting women to think he won't do anything else which is illogical since Enies Lobby on his performance. Thinking like that is more biased hate than actual factual if your stating that.

This is something most people don't seem to get. Huge difference between speed blitzing and attacking someone when they don't know you're there (i.e. sucker punching). Sanji never speed blitzed oven. He attacked Oven when he was already attacking someone and had no idea Sanji or anyone was there meaning he had no reason to be cautious of anyone else other than Pound being a threat.

I couldn't see Sanji having being a challenge for the likes of Oven or Daifuku.

More so, Sanji doesn't even possess Black Armament.

Even against Vergo, Sanji injured himself by attacking Vergo who wasn't even using Hardening. Vergo was holding back essentially. Granted, Sanji was injured, but still, there's not much evidence to give Sanji the benefit of the doubt against any formidable opponent.

Sanji's literally had 0 wins against anyone of name since the time-skip.

Law had to use an attack that could destroy a mountain in 2 to defeat Vergo; Sanji's strength isn't anything as outstanding as anything Law has done.

More so, given how fast Joker almost killed Sanji compared to Law? Sanji shouldn't be capable of defeating Vergo.

Then we have the fact that the best Sanji could do with Haki and Diable Jambe against Luffy who didn't defend with Haki was a chipped tooth. Imagine Luffy even taking attacks with Haki from Jimbei without defending himself? I think a missing tooth would be the last thing to worry about.

Sanji has really looked weak. He looks nothing like a Monster Trio since the time-skip. It's more like the Monster-duo, and then everyone else.

What headcannon is this? Sanji have beaten notable enemies in timeskip and have shown Arnament Haki. He send Oven flying with ease to the point no one saw him doing it (except maybe Pudding, but depends on her abilities) and Daifuku was stop by him when he try to destory the ships.

Vergo walk away when he knew he couldn't beat Sanji and he was nerfed. To make Vergo bleed twice and send him flying twice is big feat when your nerfed. Sanji stopping him from his mission is big feat, now your making things up. Saying Sanji even this point can't defeat Vergo is dumb to say to be honest.

Are you seriously counting Sanji beating up Luffy as his 'full power'? Are you seriously expecting Sanji to try to kill Luffy? Yeah you don't have credibility if your actually taking that as a 'serious fight'. Luffy knew he was lying and holding back, otherwise Sanji could really kill him as his strength is vouch many times by Luffy. If you can't see obvious situation Sanji was doing, you were never a fan to begin with.

Sanji is still Monster Trio and haven't show his full power yet, but even so he has shown feats and defeated credible enemies in NW. Ignoring all that doesn't make you critic, but more biased on headcannon, Hannibal.

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 9, 2021, Original Post Date: Apr 9, 2021 ---

I just saw a collage about laugh tale. And at this point I'm not so unsure its a story about how Oda took Sanji from being a badask monster Trio character to weakling and laughing stock. That's probably what Roger Rayleigh and Oden were laughing about.

"And then in the huge Battle of Wano with all these big shots amd powerful fighters present he thought he was going to the rooftop to face Kaido and Big Mom with the rest of the Supernova, but he just ends up crying like he did in Whole Cake Island. And while everyone is doing badask stuff on Onigashima and even Orochi survived Kaido, Sanji is over here getting captured screaming Nico Robin help me I got captured. And everyone can hear it. And he sounds like Chopper, Usopp and Nami. We had to give him invisibility to cheap shot because he's too weak to fight straight up."

I have no faith that Oda will write up anything redeeming for Sanji. And I don't mean that he dodged Katakuri. I'll give Oda that though. He had Sanji in base form dodge a character who can see in the future and is pretty fast himself. And has better CoO than Big Mom. And yet Sanji was able to dodge an unexpected tiny jelly bean at that speed. And the glare after. Against Big Mom's Number 2/First Mate. THAT'S THE REAL SANJI.
This other stuff Oda is pulling is a bit off. He did then show off Sanji withstanding King. But that is basically him using armor. Its like Oda just completely forgot to develop Sanji as a fighter and constantly has him in Diable Jambe mode. I wonder if Oda is going to eventually give Sanji an advanced version of it? Not hell's memories but something way more advanced. He may not be Luffy where he can use a devil fruit but Diable Jambe imbued with Haki shouldn't be an issue. Well it may be too advanced. But he should be able to do what Luffy can in terms of having advanced forms of his ability. Obviously he can't bite into his leg but Oda really needs to improve the original non raid suit Sanji. But Oda has to have more up his sleeve for the character.

All that Sanji will never be this cool again stuff is nonsense if he means the character will fall into obscurity. By be this cool again, I hope Oda is trying to say he will get a stronger Diable Jambe.

What would be really cool is that in Enies Lobby
Tekkai: Iron Body
Luffy: Brute Force Through it
Zoro: Cut Through it
Sanji: Burn Through it

Kaido & Big Mom: Impenetrable Skin
Luffy: Brute Force Through It
Zoro: Cut Through it
Sanji: Burn Through it

I mean they had Sanji (I know its the anime) fighting against Oven's Devil Fruit. Which was strong enough to burn Pedro's sword out his hand and melt the sea. Which of course why should Kaido not be able to get burned by heat since he boiled Oden alive. It would complete things full circle.

But damn straight Sanji should be able to burn through Kaido amd Big Mom.

I don't think you should take that talk from his VA seriously especially it was before arc even began and Sanji have moments of Stealth Black/Soba Mask, beating PO and Drake, saving Momo and tanking King's attack. Just because he doesn't fight women doesn't mean he won't do anything else. Oda is having him fight someone stronger later and on changing the tide of the battle.

I mean we have to see if Sanji fight with Kaido later or not if there will be more people to fight him, but given how Kaido have reacted to fire attacks and reveal his DF is a Fish Fish Fruit, Sanji with his fire can harm him then. Though have to see on that as we go along.

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 9, 2021 ---

Same thing most people said when luffy defeated crocodile (to the point where even oda has made the point that happened way too soon): BS.

Nothing BS about it as it make sense. Your not true fan if you can't see similar route on how things are going and thinking Strawhats including Sanji won't beat someone stronger on their end. You been saying this even before fight and nothing BS on them reaching another stage of power.

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

sanji vs kanjuro incoming soon

 

[catagon87]

I won't be surprised if it's Sanji vs Queen.
Think about it guys:
Sanji vs Queen is actually a good match-up. They both are a net negative to their respective crews. Positive in bold.

Sanji Feats:

• Turned to stone by Boa Hancock while not even in range of her power
• Nearly nose-bleeding to death on Fishman Island
• Sexually harassing the shit out of female crew members, including sexually assaulting Nami during Law's shambles experience on PH
• Leg broken by Vergo
• Nearly killed by Doflamingo
• Defeats a sheep SMILE user, but then gets kidnapped by one of the weakest SN
• Beats up his own Captain who is not fighting back, and is actively trying to save him, after said captain just took out a Yonko Commander for his sake
• Demonstrates a full willingness to abandon his crew, 2 years of training, and relationships with each member for a piece of ass (Pudding)
• Ropes his crew into an idiotic plan to save his family that nearly costs them everything
• Bakes a cake for a Yonko who is actively trying to kill them
• Manages to escape WCI without even a single good fight under his belt
• I have to give him SOME positive: He did manage to fight a TR member, though it's unclear if he even defeated the guy or not since the guy is perfectly healthy now. Based on the above I'm guessing he didn't.
• Spying on the women's bathhouse. Despicable
• He DID help Momo escape, so that's positive.
• Fell for one of the most obvious traps ever
• Put Nico Robin (a much more valuable crew member) at risk for his own selfish sake

Queen Feats:

• Made an idiotic competition that was essentially set up for letting Luffy escape
• Removed Luffy's seastone cuffs
• Ass kicked by Big Mom
• Managed to capture Big Mom but this was very luck-based
• Managed to power up the enemy forces by giving them a virus that turns them into badass fighters
• Same virus managed to also turn his own team against the Beast Pirates' crew and join the alliance
• Slapped to shit by the weakest member in the SHP
• Virus undone by the weakest member in the SHP (Chopper)
• Fodderized by Marco, basically.

We need a reference point, so let's throw an 8 year old in for good measure.

Tama Feats:

• Converted Speed to the cause of the alliance
• Helped lead Linlin to Udon
• Converted the SMILE users of Udon to be her servants
• Snuck onto Onigashima and converted many of the enemy SMILE users (the strongest class of fighter below headliner) and headliners to their cause

Sanji score: -12
Queen Score: -7
Tama score: 4

So I would say they are a good match. Let the two most useless, net negative, idiotic members of their respective crews work at cancelling each other out.

 

[XXGenesis]

I won't be surprised if it's Sanji vs Queen.
Think about it guys:
Sanji vs Queen is actually a good match-up. They both are a net negative to their respective crews. Positive in bold.

Sanji Feats:

• Turned to stone by Boa Hancock while not even in range of her power
• Nearly nose-bleeding to death on Fishman Island
• Sexually harassing the shit out of female crew members, including sexually assaulting Nami during Law's shambles experience on PH
• Leg broken by Vergo
• Nearly killed by Doflamingo
• Defeats a sheep SMILE user, but then gets kidnapped by one of the weakest SN
• Beats up his own Captain who is not fighting back, and is actively trying to save him, after said captain just took out a Yonko Commander for his sake
• Demonstrates a full willingness to abandon his crew, 2 years of training, and relationships with each member for a piece of ass (Pudding)
• Ropes his crew into an idiotic plan to save his family that nearly costs them everything
• Bakes a cake for a Yonko who is actively trying to kill them
• Manages to escape WCI without even a single good fight under his belt
• I have to give him SOME positive: He did manage to fight a TR member, though it's unclear if he even defeated the guy or not since the guy is perfectly healthy now. Based on the above I'm guessing he didn't.
• Spying on the women's bathhouse. Despicable
• He DID help Momo escape, so that's positive.
• Fell for one of the most obvious traps ever
• Put Nico Robin (a much more valuable crew member) at risk for his own selfish sake

Queen Feats:

• Made an idiotic competition that was essentially set up for letting Luffy escape
• Removed Luffy's seastone cuffs
• Ass kicked by Big Mom
• Managed to capture Big Mom but this was very luck-based
• Managed to power up the enemy forces by giving them a virus that turns them into badass fighters
• Same virus managed to also turn his own team against the Beast Pirates' crew and join the alliance
• Slapped to shit by the weakest member in the SHP
• Virus undone by the weakest member in the SHP (Chopper)
• Fodderized by Marco, basically.

We need a reference point, so let's throw an 8 year old in for good measure.

Tama Feats:

• Converted Speed to the cause of the alliance
• Helped lead Linlin to Udon
• Converted the SMILE users of Udon to be her servants
• Snuck onto Onigashima and converted many of the enemy SMILE users (the strongest class of fighter below headliner) and headliners to their cause

Sanji score: -12
Queen Score: -7
Tama score: 4

So I would say they are a good match. Let the two most useless, net negative, piece of shit idiotic members of their respective crews work at cancelling each other out.

It is a good match up.

Many were against it because only Luffy has matched up to any commander lv opponent, & even he struggled.

Sanji hasn’t hasn’t been given a fight. Only clashes were he’s Kinda mostly standing his ground, not dominating any 1 opponent of a comparable benchmark power level like the others in the monster trio.

Then there’s simply no hype towards Sanji’s opponent this arc. It was P1, where Sanji wins by decision & unfinished fight; Other than that, his Fictional food has better taste than the actual hype for almost anything about the character.

But he’ll fight Queen; Let’s see how interesting this fight is. I’m suspecting some gags from both Queen & Sanji but hope it’s kept mostly serious

 

[Aliocha]

I think King will try to kill Momo and end up in a fight against Sanji

 

[King Moe]

sanji vs kanjuro incoming soon

Nah, Scabbards vs Kanjuro again given they active again.

Sanji vs King or Queen more likely given their objectives.

It is a good match up.

Many were against it because only Luffy has matched up to any commander lv opponent, & even he struggled.

Sanji hasn’t hasn’t been given a fight. Only clashes were he’s Kinda mostly standing his ground, not dominating any 1 opponent of a comparable benchmark power level like the others in the monster trio.

Then there’s simply no hype towards Sanji’s opponent this arc. It was P1, where Sanji wins by decision & unfinished fight; Other than that, his Fictional food has better taste than the actual hype for almost anything about the character.

But he’ll fight Queen; Let’s see how interesting this fight is. I’m suspecting some gags from both Queen & Sanji but hope it’s kept mostly serious

Even though none of @catagon87 are feats and just hate biased. I wouldn't believe a guy with non-credible statements like that. Sanji have beaten and damage notable enemies throughout NW as recently beating PO and Drake, There is hype to who Sanji facing given everyone is getting a fight in this arc and there is even possibility of him and certain rest who could go to the roof to fight Kaido given latest events of Luffy asking Law to update everyone about situation which will want them to support Luffy in the fight with Kaido.

Actually his character have been consistent and still have hype if you look at fanbase. Idk what you mean on that statement given he fighting capabilities haven't been fully shown and beating 2 T6H is feat worthy around.

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 10, 2021, Original Post Date: Apr 10, 2021 ---

I won't be surprised if it's Sanji vs Queen.
Think about it guys:
Sanji vs Queen is actually a good match-up. They both are a net negative to their respective crews. Positive in bold.

Sanji Feats:

• Turned to stone by Boa Hancock while not even in range of her power
• Nearly nose-bleeding to death on Fishman Island
• Sexually harassing the shit out of female crew members, including sexually assaulting Nami during Law's shambles experience on PH
• Leg broken by Vergo
• Nearly killed by Doflamingo
• Defeats a sheep SMILE user, but then gets kidnapped by one of the weakest SN
• Beats up his own Captain who is not fighting back, and is actively trying to save him, after said captain just took out a Yonko Commander for his sake
• Demonstrates a full willingness to abandon his crew, 2 years of training, and relationships with each member for a piece of ass (Pudding)
• Ropes his crew into an idiotic plan to save his family that nearly costs them everything
• Bakes a cake for a Yonko who is actively trying to kill them
• Manages to escape WCI without even a single good fight under his belt
• I have to give him SOME positive: He did manage to fight a TR member, though it's unclear if he even defeated the guy or not since the guy is perfectly healthy now. Based on the above I'm guessing he didn't.
• Spying on the women's bathhouse. Despicable
• He DID help Momo escape, so that's positive.
• Fell for one of the most obvious traps ever
• Put Nico Robin (a much more valuable crew member) at risk for his own selfish sake

Queen Feats:

• Made an idiotic competition that was essentially set up for letting Luffy escape
• Removed Luffy's seastone cuffs
• Ass kicked by Big Mom
• Managed to capture Big Mom but this was very luck-based
• Managed to power up the enemy forces by giving them a virus that turns them into badass fighters
• Same virus managed to also turn his own team against the Beast Pirates' crew and join the alliance
• Slapped to shit by the weakest member in the SHP
• Virus undone by the weakest member in the SHP (Chopper)
• Fodderized by Marco, basically.

We need a reference point, so let's throw an 8 year old in for good measure.

Tama Feats:

• Converted Speed to the cause of the alliance
• Helped lead Linlin to Udon
• Converted the SMILE users of Udon to be her servants
• Snuck onto Onigashima and converted many of the enemy SMILE users (the strongest class of fighter below headliner) and headliners to their cause

Sanji score: -12
Queen Score: -7
Tama score: 4

So I would say they are a good match. Let the two most useless, net negative, idiotic members of their respective crews work at cancelling each other out.

So your using gags as a way he has feats and did nothing? Man your desperation especially using same thing on Queen who been gaining more feats fighting Marco and yet you think he is 'weak' because.....You say so?

LMAO on Tama side. Now I see your just credible is never there to begin with.

So let me help you review since you need it:

Sanji's Feats:

• Help Zolo get back to finding the ship and fighting off enemies and beating Pacifista with ease.
• Saved his friends and did work around the island after he recover as well beating enemies while time Zolo needed help on his side by Brook and Usopp before coming in after being captured by New Fishman Pirates.
• Protected Nami's body from harm and saved Kinemon's body even in her body while Zolo couldn't stop Yeti Brothers when he suppose to be on guard given even though in her body, Nami isn't strong like them.
• Beating Vergo to make him bleed twice and send him flying twice. Forcing him to leave and unable to do the mission while Zolo couldn't beat Monet and need Tashigi to beat her since like certain someone he can't harm women much either.
• Was able to save his crew and friends despite how strong Doflamingo was, but got complimented how strong he is and able get Viola to their side through his charm. Zolo had trouble with Pica and need team to beat him on his side given what is going on.
• Defeating a Headliner easily and saving his friends out of situation despite being blackmail and force. Ordering around Bege at gunpoint as he want to confront situation on stopping blackmail.
• Sanji trying to save his friends from getting involve due to Zeff's well being and his hands on the line and hold back on them while putting a facade, but Luffy and his friends understand now work together to stop situation around them.
• Saving everyone at the party and melting away top DF users powers with ease with his flames and them being in debt to him now.
• Using a cake to stop Big Mom who was on rampage and was about to kill the crew overall as even Jimbei stated to 'leave the ship' given situation of them unable to beat her together (Obvious if you seen how Wano with her as a fighter).
• Send Oven flying with ease and speed feet of no one able to detect him from eyesight while stopping Daifuku's attack with ease when he wanted to destroy the ship.
• Have beaten 2 T6H in a fight as shown in the series especially one of them is a Supernova while Zolo having trouble with Hawkins, Kyoshiro, Kamazou, and Gyukimaro.
• Fighting off 2 Supernovas at same time at bathhouse while saving Nami, Robin, and Shinobi from them (Idk why they willingly show their bodies in public bath to stranger they do not even know.)
• Blocking and Tanking King's attack while holding and saving Momo and come out of that unscathed afterwards and Zolo and Drake need to team to fight off Apoo given Zolo can't handle his power on his own.
• Beating all males on the floor despite female opponents are around and making sure there was no female being sexual assaulted.
• Giving Robin's chance in a serious fight she hasn't have in series since Skypiea and respecting her power as fewllo crewmember and not being sexist thinking she can't fight for herself.

King's Feats:

• Stopping Big Mom Pirates on his own to prevent them from going up.
• Gaining respect along with Queen and Jack on their prowress as his YCs
• Keeping plains secure even into chaos and while he still fighting.
• Fighting with Macro while still haven't shown full power along with Queen.

Queen's Feats:

• Able to owned Luffy and others in fights and even keeping situation secure even through chaos which is luck side of Luffy.
• Beating Big Mom on his own and capturing her despite not using full power yet.
• Causing chaos around with his abilities and changing tide of battle to their side.
• Fighting with Macro while still haven't shown full power along with King.

Tama's Feats:

• Got Neg-Diffed by Kaido and cause harm to everyone given her being involved with Luffy early on.
• Brought Big Mom in access to Kaido side and now have to deal with the alliance of 2 Yonkos.

Sanji's score: 100
King's score and Queen's score: 95
Tama's score: -50

Now that we have clear facts here, let's the most postive, helpful, smart characters face off in this arc being with Sanji having a fight with King or Queen given how they are as both sides have yet to use their full power at all during course of this fight.

 

[catagon87]

Lol.

It’s like you read a different version of the manga with Sanji beer goggles on.
Quite a few suspensions of disbelief there including stuff that literally never happened.

 

[Nie Li]

Zolo couldn't beat Monet and need Tashigi to beat her since like certain someone he can't harm women much either.

Do you even read One Piece?

Also: Don't turn this thread into a Zoro vs Sanji thread either. It was you who brought Zoro in this time.

 

[King Moe]

Now back to the original topic before, what is everyone thoughts on SBS and hint on Sanji's future on living near or at All Blue?

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

If the strawhats are disbanded at end of series, i see sanji continue to be the assistant of zeff restaurant, working along with the other staff like patty

 

[King Moe]

If the strawhats are disbanded at end of series, i see sanji continue to be the assistant of zeff restaurant, working along with the other staff like patty

Nah, he owning his own business. Zeff by his ages would be old and retired, so why would he not be head chef by his ages? That doesn't make sense at all.

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

Nah, he owning his own business. Zeff by his ages would be old and retired, so why would he not be head chef by his ages? That doesn't make sense at all.

sanji owes debt to zeff (this is his own word, you know). Sanji would continue taking care of zeff and working at the baratie restaurant.

 

[King Moe]

sanji owes debt to zeff (this is his own word, you know). Sanji would continue taking care of zeff at the baratie restaurant.

That debt been taken care of since debut arc. Weren't you paying attention. You think Zeff won't give ownership by then or at least him living in All Blue on his own? Doesn't make sense. It's like saying Zoro won't get title of WSS and Mihawk will still by his side.

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

That debt been taken care of since debut arc. Weren't you paying attention. You think Zeff won't give ownership by then or at least him living in All Blue on his own? Doesn't make sense. It's like saying Zoro won't get title of WSS and Mihawk will still by his side.

i paid attention, although you clearly didn't during the WCI arc. Sanji still feels the same way about zeff. Sanji will take care of zeff. Sanji's stuck on east blue for life