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Who will be Sanji's main opponent during the Raid on Onigashima?


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There's no relation between fire skills and CoC.

If they were, I could confirm Zoro and Kin'emon as CoC users who imbue their swords with fire that "can burn through opponents and materials".

Sanji may or may not have CoC, but his fire skills are not hints of anything.
I think there's a solid point Whitebeard made that too many conquerers is a problem for any crew.

Conquerers have a unique personality that Sanji just doesn't have, up to this point. A conquerer would have never just agreed to marry Pudding and abandon Luffy like Sanji seemed so intent on doing (until witnessing that Pudding planned to shoot him in the face). Conquerers in similar situations would never so easily just subordinate themselves to another. Their loyalty to their dreams and allies is too deep. I think the biggest "Sanji doesn't have COC" flag for me is the way he handled WCI - completely willing to abandon his loyalties to his dream of finding All Blue, seeing Luffy's dreams come true, and keep his crew well fed all for the chance to marry Pudding.

Honestly I don't think the (fake) handcuff would have discouraged Luffy or Zoro so much. This isn't Sanji trolling; I think it's a valid statement and reasoning to why Sanji very likely does not have COC. I just don't see him having the personality traits that most other COC users have.
 

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I think there's a solid point Whitebeard made that too many conquerers is a problem for any crew.

Conquerers have a unique personality that Sanji just doesn't have, up to this point. A conquerer would have never just agreed to marry Pudding and abandon Luffy like Sanji seemed so intent on doing (until witnessing that Pudding planned to shoot him in the face). Conquerers in similar situations would never so easily just subordinate themselves to another. Their loyalty to their dreams and allies is too deep. I think the biggest "Sanji doesn't have COC" flag for me is the way he handled WCI - completely willing to abandon his loyalties to his dream of finding All Blue, seeing Luffy's dreams come true, and keep his crew well fed all for the chance to marry Pudding.

Honestly I don't think the (fake) handcuff would have discouraged Luffy or Zoro so much. This isn't Sanji trolling; I think it's a valid statement and reasoning to why Sanji very likely does not have COC.
I don't believe Sanji will get it either, but I wouldn't mind it if he eventually does.

I mean, if Doflamingo, a fearful man subordinated to Kaido, had it, why not.
 

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I won't be surprised if it's Sanji vs Queen.
Think about it guys:
Sanji vs Queen is actually a good match-up. They both are a net negative to their respective crews. Positive in bold.

Sanji Feats:

  • Turned to stone by Boa Hancock while not even in range of her power
  • Nearly nose-bleeding to death on Fishman Island
  • Sexually harassing the shit out of female crew members, including sexually assaulting Nami during Law's shambles experience on PH
  • Leg broken by Vergo
  • Nearly killed by Doflamingo
  • Defeats a sheep SMILE user, but then gets kidnapped by one of the weakest SN
  • Beats up his own Captain who is not fighting back, and is actively trying to save him, after said captain just took out a Yonko Commander for his sake
  • Demonstrates a full willingness to abandon his crew, 2 years of training, and relationships with each member for a piece of ass (Pudding)
  • Ropes his crew into an idiotic plan to save his family that nearly costs them everything
  • Bakes a cake for a Yonko who is actively trying to kill them
  • Manages to escape WCI without even a single good fight under his belt
  • I have to give him SOME positive: He did manage to fight a TR member, though it's unclear if he even defeated the guy or not since the guy is perfectly healthy now. Based on the above I'm guessing he didn't.
  • Spying on the women's bathhouse. Despicable
  • He DID help Momo escape, so that's positive.
  • Fell for one of the most obvious traps ever
  • Put Nico Robin (a much more valuable crew member) at risk for his own selfish sake
Queen Feats:
  • Made an idiotic competition that was essentially set up for letting Luffy escape
  • Removed Luffy's seastone cuffs
  • Ass kicked by Big Mom
  • Managed to capture Big Mom but this was very luck-based
  • Managed to power up the enemy forces by giving them a virus that turns them into badass fighters
  • Same virus managed to also turn his own team against the Beast Pirates' crew and join the alliance
  • Slapped to shit by the weakest member in the SHP
  • Virus undone by the weakest member in the SHP (Chopper)
  • Fodderized by Marco, basically.
We need a reference point, so let's throw an 8 year old in for good measure.

Tama Feats:
  • Converted Speed to the cause of the alliance
  • Helped lead Linlin to Udon
  • Converted the SMILE users of Udon to be her servants
  • Snuck onto Onigashima and converted many of the enemy SMILE users (the strongest class of fighter below headliner) and headliners to their cause
Sanji score: -12
Queen Score: -7
Tama score: 4

So I would say they are a good match. Let the two most useless, net negative, idiotic members of their respective crews work at cancelling each other out.
😂 God I hope Sanji can be redeemed, lol.
 

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I don't believe Sanji will get it either, but I wouldn't mind it if he eventually does.

I mean, if Doflamingo, a fearful man subordinated to Kaido, had it, why not.
Yeah, I equate Doflamingo's fear more to Blackbeard's fear of Whitebeard. Monet mentioned wanting to make Doffy the Pirate King. I think Doflamingo was just riding out some plan to eventually take out Kaido. None of that matters at this point, but I do think he was determined / driven and not one to be discouraged from his goals. He even seems able to enjoy the effects of his own defeat.
 

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Yeah, I equate Doflamingo's fear more to Blackbeard's fear of Whitebeard. Monet mentioned wanting to make Doffy the Pirate King. I think Doflamingo was just riding out some plan to eventually take out Kaido. None of that matters at this point, but I do think he was determined / driven and not one to be discouraged from his goals. He even seems able to enjoy the effects of his own defeat.
I think Doffy had his sights much higher than just being Pirate King.

It seems the entire reason he wanted the Ope Ope no Mi was for the personality swap to takeover "Imu" who is the king of the world and also the secret national treasure of mariejoise.

That's as great a power as one can have. He'd have all the Admirals and the entire Navy at his beck and call.
 

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😂 God I hope Sanji can be redeemed, lol.
He's going to have to. I honestly don't hate him and I want to see his character redeemed. I have hated the constant Sanji V Zoro on these forums, but Oda really hasn't done Sanji any favors lately. I've been waiting for my "cool Sanji moment" since Fishman Island. So far the coolest moment has been him dodging a jelly bean. I use to love his Mr. Prince gig, and the way his anger would kick in and he'd make short work of whatever enemy was in front of him. It's just now how it's been lately though.
He literally has a power-up tool that seems to have no draw-backs (RAID SUIT) and he doesn't use it, and almost tossed it into the ocean. The only reason he uses it is because it satisfies the perverted side of him.
Wano is closing in the next year or so, so there's still time for a big redemption, and I really wouldn't mind it. I have my doubts about Sanji vs King, but who knows. A fight with Queen would (obviously) make more sense to me.

But yeah, at this point Sanji is not monster trio material. I have no doubts Jinbei would destroy him 1 on 1. If that's the case, then what's the point of it being the monster trio? That's more like Monster Trio and Jinbei. Monster Quartet? I don't know. I think the bar for the monster trio now needs to be successfully attacking a yonko. Jinbei hasn't hurt Big Mom, but he's definitely successfully attacked her multiple times. Zoro and Luffy have now both hurt Yonko.

I'm also holding out for Katakuri to join once Luffy goes back and takes out Big Mom. Unless he plans to stick around and lead Tottoland, he is too good of a character to waste. Then there will be even more Monster Trio adjustments.
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I think Doffy had his sights much higher than just being Pirate King.

It seems the entire reason he wanted the Ope Ope no Mi was for the personality swap to takeover "Imu" who is the king of the world and also the secret national treasure of mariejoise.

That's as great a power as one can have. He'd have all the Admirals and the entire Navy at his beck and call.
Yeah that's fair. I think Blackbeard is kinda similar, but maybe not with respect to wanting immortality. He seems to want to rule the world or something though.
 

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I'd enjoy it, but the odds certainly aren't in his favor.

In the event he does have it, he wouldn't be the first Conqueror to seemingly give up and take a bum deal for what they saw to be the greater good. He was still adamant in not marrying Pudding even after the cuffs and Zeff threat. Only when Luffy and co popped up that he decided to accept under the assumption that they'd be spared.

And when all of that was settled, he still planned to stay by himself and fight to attempt to save his family alone.

He has a few things going for him, but clearly not enough to definitively say he's a for sure candidate.
 

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I'm also holding out for Katakuri to join once Luffy goes back and takes out Big Mom. Unless he plans to stick around and lead Tottoland, he is too good of a character to waste. Then there will be even more Monster Trio adjustments.
I am looking at it like this. As is the pattern:
  1. Luffy goes to x city.
  2. Finds the big bad villain.
  3. Exposes their villainous ways.
  4. Defeats them.
  5. The city loves Luffy and becomes his allies.
  6. Rinse and repeat cycle.
WCI is the only place this didn't happen which is why I think there'll be a return to WCI. Once he defeats Big Mom assuming he doesn't do so here at Wano, Katakuri takes over WCI and becomes allies with Luffy. Thinking about it too, they did discuss who'd lead the BMP if she was out of the way, and Perospero put himself as a candidate in place of Katakuri, though I think Katakuri will take that position in such events.
The end goal after all is to fight the World Government so I think the allies he picks up along the way will be to fight the WG or Celestial Dragons to be specific.

Yeah that's fair. I think Blackbeard is kinda similar, but maybe not with respect to wanting immortality. He seems to want to rule the world or something though.
I think Law will have a death flag. His ability is far too powerful to not be a plot point. Blackbeard would be the perfect person.

To stay on the topic though, Oda's made out like he wants to take everything, so he's likely got similar ambitions to Xebec.
 

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There's no relation between fire skills and CoC.

If they were, I could confirm Zoro and Kin'emon as CoC users who imbue their swords with fire that "can burn through opponents and materials".

Sanji may or may not have CoC, but his fire skills are not hints of anything.
Idk about that and obviously his fire is different compare to Zoro and Kinemon. Not same way on how they use fire.

I mean there been hints of him having it given COC traits, so it is possible for him to have it.
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I think there's a solid point Whitebeard made that too many conquerers is a problem for any crew.

Conquerers have a unique personality that Sanji just doesn't have, up to this point. A conquerer would have never just agreed to marry Pudding and abandon Luffy like Sanji seemed so intent on doing (until witnessing that Pudding planned to shoot him in the face). Conquerers in similar situations would never so easily just subordinate themselves to another. Their loyalty to their dreams and allies is too deep. I think the biggest "Sanji doesn't have COC" flag for me is the way he handled WCI - completely willing to abandon his loyalties to his dream of finding All Blue, seeing Luffy's dreams come true, and keep his crew well fed all for the chance to marry Pudding.

Honestly I don't think the (fake) handcuff would have discouraged Luffy or Zoro so much. This isn't Sanji trolling; I think it's a valid statement and reasoning to why Sanji very likely does not have COC. I just don't see him having the personality traits that most other COC users have.
Sanji has a personality of a Conquerer though and what does that have to do him not having it? He was doing that to saved his friends and was blackmail or else Zeff and rest would die. Have you been paying attention? If your choosing to let go of your dream for greater purpose to help someone like your friends, by that logic, why Zoro has implied COC when he was ready to let go of his dream for Kuma to kill him. Doesn't make sense at all. Putting your Captain and friends first doesn't mean you can't have COC. Doesn't make sense at all.
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😂 God I hope Sanji can be redeemed, lol.
You do know Catagon isn't credible, right?
He's going to have to. I honestly don't hate him and I want to see his character redeemed. I have hated the constant Sanji V Zoro on these forums, but Oda really hasn't done Sanji any favors lately. I've been waiting for my "cool Sanji moment" since Fishman Island. So far the coolest moment has been him dodging a jelly bean. I use to love his Mr. Prince gig, and the way his anger would kick in and he'd make short work of whatever enemy was in front of him. It's just now how it's been lately though.
He literally has a power-up tool that seems to have no draw-backs (RAID SUIT) and he doesn't use it, and almost tossed it into the ocean. The only reason he uses it is because it satisfies the perverted side of him.
Wano is closing in the next year or so, so there's still time for a big redemption, and I really wouldn't mind it. I have my doubts about Sanji vs King, but who knows. A fight with Queen would (obviously) make more sense to me.

But yeah, at this point Sanji is not monster trio material. I have no doubts Jinbei would destroy him 1 on 1. If that's the case, then what's the point of it being the monster trio? That's more like Monster Trio and Jinbei. Monster Quartet? I don't know. I think the bar for the monster trio now needs to be successfully attacking a yonko. Jinbei hasn't hurt Big Mom, but he's definitely successfully attacked her multiple times. Zoro and Luffy have now both hurt Yonko.

I'm also holding out for Katakuri to join once Luffy goes back and takes out Big Mom. Unless he plans to stick around and lead Tottoland, he is too good of a character to waste. Then there will be even more Monster Trio adjustments.
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Yeah that's fair. I think Blackbeard is kinda similar, but maybe not with respect to wanting immortality. He seems to want to rule the world or something though.
Dude, you made a big troll and bait post about stuff that didn't happen and even use debunked statements into trying to go after the character. You do have hate for him by stating that.

Your letting issue over him not fighting women make you think he won't do anything else when this isn't first time this happens, but doesn't mean he won't do anything else after that moment. If you talking about past arcs, then you know about Enies Lobby as a example when this happen. If you want to try to be neutral and have faith, then stop acting out when it comes to him facing female enemies as doesn't mean he won't do anything else for the arc and will fight someone stronger.

I mean we gotten cool Sanji's moments in the NW, but issue is more we haven't seen full fight in him and many Strawhats for a long time is more issue. Doesn't mean he hasn't been doing work and been helpful. Your confusing both thinking he doesn't have feats or done anything to help when he did.

RS is mode of stealth mission uses, not so much on power. Though he can fight with it if situation becomes that on his mission. His power still more his own from the looks of it.

He still Monster Trio, dude. Sanji beats Jimbei especially if you want talk about situations now, Jimbei is struggling with T6H while Sanji proven he beaten T6H already. Just because he doesn't fight female member doesn't mean he isn't above T6H. Plus if you mean using attacks on Yonko, didn't Oda state he has power to block Big Mom's attack as shown in manga and stated again in SBS? I like how your ignoring these to try to make like Sanji hasn't gotten feats when he has.

Why would Katakuri walk away from his crew and family to join Strawhats? Even if he joined, he isn't stronger than Sanji who going to face YC lvl opponent in that arc. Facing King or Queen and might come up to fight Kaido to support Luffy with certain rest given interest more want to come up there and Luffy might need another break before fighting him again. Your desperation must be insecure if your talking nonsense that Katakuri can join as it just shows you didn't pay attention at all in arc when Katakuri will never leave his family no matter what. Monster Trio are still the same and your letting your biased insecurity get better of you.
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I am looking at it like this. As is the pattern:
  1. Luffy goes to x city.
  2. Finds the big bad villain.
  3. Exposes their villainous ways.
  4. Defeats them.
  5. The city loves Luffy and becomes his allies.
  6. Rinse and repeat cycle.
WCI is the only place this didn't happen which is why I think there'll be a return to WCI. Once he defeats Big Mom assuming he doesn't do so here at Wano, Katakuri takes over WCI and becomes allies with Luffy. Thinking about it too, they did discuss who'd lead the BMP if she was out of the way, and Perospero put himself as a candidate in place of Katakuri, though I think Katakuri will take that position in such events.
The end goal after all is to fight the World Government so I think the allies he picks up along the way will be to fight the WG or Celestial Dragons to be specific.



I think Law will have a death flag. His ability is far too powerful to not be a plot point. Blackbeard would be the perfect person.

To stay on the topic though, Oda's made out like he wants to take everything, so he's likely got similar ambitions to Xebec.
Again, you guys didn't read arc if your actually thinking Katakuri will leave his family for Strawhats and it be like that. I highly doubt Katakuri will go join another crew and leave family behind. Not saying there isn't respect between him and Luffy, but it's not like that he do soemthing your forcing on.

Law won't be getting killed either. Doesn't make sense given his dream to be PK too and thinking he be more involved later on. Though I can see BB being interested in his fruit though, so can't denied an fight between them, but Idk about that though.
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I don't believe Sanji will get it either, but I wouldn't mind it if he eventually does.

I mean, if Doflamingo, a fearful man subordinated to Kaido, had it, why not.
Sanji will get given if you look at Top Tier crews, there are a lot of COC users in them, so it doesn't make sense Strawhats doesn't surpass them or have lesser than them. Also wouldn't put Sanji's COC at EOS as Doflamingo level, it be much greater than that.
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I'd enjoy it, but the odds certainly aren't in his favor.

In the event he does have it, he wouldn't be the first Conqueror to seemingly give up and take a bum deal for what they saw to be the greater good. He was still adamant in not marrying Pudding even after the cuffs and Zeff threat. Only when Luffy and co popped up that he decided to accept under the assumption that they'd be spared.

And when all of that was settled, he still planned to stay by himself and fight to attempt to save his family alone.

He has a few things going for him, but clearly not enough to definitively say he's a for sure candidate.
I mean in situation when your blackmailed and force to do something unless you want someone to die over you along with handcuffs that could explode as well. Not like he give into it because on his mindset. He did it to save those in mind and plus it does show leadership and courage on him wanting to fight even Big Mom in stopping her attack to save his family and thus does goes in line of COC traits. He has odds on having it more than you might think on.
 
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Idk about that and obviously his fire is different compare to Zoro and Kinemon. Not same way on how they use fire.

I mean there been hints of him having it given COC traits, so it is possible for him to have it.
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Sanji has a personality of a Conquerer though and what does that have to do him not having it? He was doing that to saved his friends and was blackmail or else Zeff and rest would die. Have you been paying attention? If your choosing to let go of your dream for greater purpose to help someone like your friends, by that logic, why Zoro has implied COC when he was ready to let go of his dream for Kuma to kill him. Doesn't make sense at all. Putting your Captain and friends first doesn't mean you can't have COC. Doesn't make sense at all.
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You do know Catagon isn't credible, right?


Dude, you made a big troll and bait post about stuff that didn't happen and even use debunked statements into trying to go after the character. You do have hate for him by stating that.

Your letting issue over him not fighting women make you think he won't do anything else when this isn't first time this happens, but doesn't mean he won't do anything else after that moment. If you talking about past arcs, then you know about Enies Lobby as a example when this happen. If you want to try to be neutral and have faith, then stop acting out when it comes to him facing female enemies as doesn't mean he won't do anything else for the arc and will fight someone stronger.

I mean we gotten cool Sanji's moments in the NW, but issue is more we haven't seen full fight in him and many Strawhats for a long time is more issue. Doesn't mean he hasn't been doing work and been helpful. Your confusing both thinking he doesn't have feats or done anything to help when he did.

RS is mode of stealth mission uses, not so much on power. Though he can fight with it if situation becomes that on his mission. His power still more his own from the looks of it.

He still Monster Trio, dude. Sanji beats Jimbei especially if you want talk about situations now, Jimbei is struggling with T6H while Sanji proven he beaten T6H already. Just because he doesn't fight female member doesn't mean he isn't above T6H. Plus if you mean using attacks on Yonko, didn't Oda state he has power to block Big Mom's attack as shown in manga and stated again in SBS? I like how your ignoring these to try to make like Sanji hasn't gotten feats when he has.

Why would Katakuri walk away from his crew and family to join Strawhats? Even if he joined, he isn't stronger than Sanji who going to face YC lvl opponent in that arc. Facing King or Queen and might come up to fight Kaido to support Luffy with certain rest given interest more want to come up there and Luffy might need another break before fighting him again. Your desperation must be insecure if your talking nonsense that Katakuri can join as it just shows you didn't pay attention at all in arc when Katakuri will never leave his family no matter what. Monster Trio are still the same and your letting your biased insecurity get better of you.
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Again, you guys didn't read arc if your actually thinking Katakuri will leave his family for Strawhats and it be like that. I highly doubt Katakuri will go join another crew and leave family behind. Not saying there isn't respect between him and Luffy, but it's not like that he do soemthing your forcing on.

Law won't be getting killed either. Doesn't make sense given his dream to be PK too and thinking he be more involved later on. Though I can see BB being interested in his fruit though, so can't denied an fight between them, but Idk about that though.
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Sanji will get given if you look at Top Tier crews, there are a lot of COC users in them, so it doesn't make sense Strawhats doesn't surpass them or have lesser than them. Also wouldn't put Sanji's COC at EOS as Doflamingo level, it be much greater than that.
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I mean in situation when your blackmailed and force to do something unless you want someone to die over you along with handcuffs that could explode as well. Not like he give into it because on his mindset. He did it to save those in mind and plus it does show leadership and courage on him wanting to fight even Big Mom in stopping her attack to save his family and thus does goes in line of COC traits. He has odds on having it more than you might think on.
Not going to go down the rabbit hole that is your Sanji obsession. If you want to live in a fantasy world thinking that Sanji is some badass who can defeat Jinbei (based on what, one panel of Jinbei in a room with Who's Who?), has COC, doesn't sexually assault / harass women for fun, has a RAID suit for "stealth and not power" (when in your favorite panels to recall against P1 he clearly states the RAID suit provided a major power / defense boost), will defeat Kaido's right-hand man, and "hurt Big Mom" then have at it. I'm going to stick to reading the actual OP manga.

There's a very clear reason you're constantly on the defensive against a plethora of people, including mods, and I'm only having to deal with you, and it's not because everyone wants to pick on you. It's because you have an impeccable set of rose-colored glasses anywhere Sanji is involved, and you even resort to straight up making things up to try and prove a point in most cases, or at the very least take major creative leaps of interpreting things that never happened on-panel.

If you want to decorate your house in Sanji memorabilia, think of him as the protagonist in OP, try and make unbased claims that he is anywhere near Zoro in strength / power, and envision him taking out Yonko then by all means do. I'm not here to rain on your Sanji-gasm-parade. However, I'm going to continue debating him objectively, citing things that actually happened.
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Dude, you made a big troll and bait post about stuff that didn't happen and even use debunked statements into trying to go after the character. You do have hate for him by stating that.
Then come up with some legitimate, actual evidence to why you disagree with it and stop bitching about it, or block me and stop responding to or reading my posts. I don't really GAF which you do, but grow up and stop expecting everyone here to cater to your expectation of a Sanji Safe Space. If you can't handle people bashing him, then stop reading their posts. Go create a SanjiFans reddit and make it private and require people have verified positive-Sanji posts before joining or something, because this is just ridiculous.
 

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Not going to go down the rabbit hole that is your Sanji obsession. If you want to live in a fantasy world thinking that Sanji is some badass who can defeat Jinbei (based on what, one panel of Jinbei in a room with Who's Who?), has COC, doesn't sexually assault / harass women for fun, has a RAID suit for "stealth and not power" (when in your favorite panels to recall against P1 he clearly states the RAID suit provided a major power / defense boost), will defeat Kaido's right-hand man, and "hurt Big Mom" then have at it. I'm going to stick to reading the actual OP manga.

There's a very clear reason you're constantly on the defensive against a plethora of people, including mods, and I'm only having to deal with you, and it's not because everyone wants to pick on you. It's because you have an impeccable set of rose-colored glasses anywhere Sanji is involved, and you even resort to straight up making things up to try and prove a point in most cases, or at the very least take major creative leaps of interpreting things that never happened on-panel.

If you want to decorate your house in Sanji memorabilia, think of him as the protagonist in OP, try and make unbased claims that he is anywhere near Zoro in strength / power, and envision him taking out Yonko then by all means do. I'm not here to rain on your Sanji-gasm-parade. However, I'm going to continue debating him objectively, citing things that actually happened.
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Then come up with some legitimate, actual evidence to why you disagree with it and stop bitching about it, or block me and stop responding to or reading my posts. I don't really GAF which you do, but grow up and stop expecting everyone here to cater to your expectation of a Sanji Safe Space. If you can't handle people bashing him, then stop reading their posts. Go create a SanjiFans reddit and make it private and require people have verified positive-Sanji posts before joining or something, because this is just ridiculous.
No obsession, it just stating the facts. Sanji can beat Jimbei, he does have traits of COC and where has he try to sexual assault a woman? Do not make up lies cause of your insecurity hate. You have no credible on that at all. invisibility isn't on attack power that is true. I can give on defense, but his attack and speed is still his own. Sanji tanked King and came out fine while prior arc he blocked Big Mom's attack. He is facing King or Queen who are left-hand and right-hand to Kaido which is clear with them facing Macro. I am sticking with manga, but why don't you try doing that yourself instead making up headcannon to state Sanji will harm women when we are shown he will never do so. Stop with that BS.

Dude, I am not only one defending as there are others. Plus check around many websites and it show many are fans for Sanji and telling truth, not headcannon illogical statements like you doing. Not saying Sanji is perfect, but ignoring everything he has been doing over being salty about him not harming females is dumb and hypocrisy yet you make statement he will sexual assault them when that goes against his own beliefs. Nothing you say have been good critic, your on biased hate and it shows.

My claims are canon and true while yours is headcannon and thinking Zoro is beyond Yonko level when he isn't. He was in team fight and then got defeated first time Kaido focus on him. Zoro is on YC lvl I can admit that, but thinking Sanji won't do anything or haven't been fighting is dumb statement to say there.

I did. I came up with evidence and only you is showing hate over it and don't want to admit it. I respond when there is inaccuracy on something. If you don't like being quoted on what you stated that was off, then don't post around in the first place. I am not going somewhere else because I don't want debate against someone who got nothing to back on. If you don't like it, please head to somewhere else if you don't want to be quoted then. I respectful debates and talk, not biased hate ones like you forcing in each time you post.
 
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We can state obvious now if we can be serious that Sanji is going to do things and facing YC lvl opponent being King or Queen. He also going to add on tide of battle and might be possibility he will go up to support Luffy given information will travel about what is going on. Luffy going to need multiple breaks from Kaido, so think another group will come in to support him and fight off Kaido until he is back on his feet. Think it could be Sanji, Jimbei, Yamato, Drake, Hawkins, and Apoo who can get involved if I have to guess.
 

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Sanji vs kanjuro. Battle of spies. We know both of them can fly (kanjuro with drawing).
 

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Sanji vs kanjuro. Battle of spies. We know both of them can fly (kanjuro with drawing).
Nah, Scabbards are fighting Kanjuro since they active again. Doesn't make sense for Sanji to have fight with him. He be facing King or Queen given the hints. Though can say possibility of Zoro vs Kanjuro can occur if Kanjuro notice about situation on him and given he is after Orochi, can lead to a fight.
 

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Nah, Scabbards are fighting Kanjuro since they active again. Doesn't make sense for Sanji to have fight with him. He be facing King or Queen given the hints. Though can say possibility of Zoro vs Kanjuro can occur if Kanjuro notice about situation on him and given he is after Orochi, can lead to a fight.
nah, just like you said. Sanji would handle the flying opponent. Kanjuro can fly with his drawing so sanji would fight him.

They also had teaser fight way before onigashima raid. It's quite thematic fight and we know oda loves to put meaning in a fight. Just saying facts
 

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nah, just like you said. Sanji would handle the flying opponent. Kanjuro can fly with his drawing so sanji would fight him.

They also had teaser fight way before onigashima raid. It's quite thematic fight and we know oda loves to put meaning in a fight. Just saying facts
I think Sanji vs Kanjuro would actually be a pretty good fight. Kanjuro wants to find and kill Hiyori which plays right into Sanji's savior-of-women complex. Kanjuro has been shown to be a pretty good fighter too. He's still a pretty big threat. Way bigger of a threat than Orochi. He actually managed to KO Ashura Doji (who fought on par with Jack) with his bomb/painting combo. He can create female paintings to attack Sanji to exploit his weakness (since Sanji won't even attack things that he knows to not actually be female, if they happen to look female. Like with his fight against Mr. 2)

And, like you said, he flies. Sanji can cancel that out.

To make the fight more challenging he could paint a harem and use them to attack Sanji indirectly.
 

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nah, just like you said. Sanji would handle the flying opponent. Kanjuro can fly with his drawing so sanji would fight him.

They also had teaser fight way before onigashima raid. It's quite thematic fight and we know oda loves to put meaning in a fight. Just saying facts
I think Sanji vs Kanjuro would actually be a pretty good fight. Kanjuro wants to find and kill Hiyori which plays right into Sanji's savior-of-women complex. Kanjuro has been shown to be a pretty good fighter too. He's still a pretty big threat. Way bigger of a threat than Orochi. He actually managed to KO Ashura Doji (who fought on par with Jack) with his bomb/painting combo. He can create female paintings to attack Sanji to exploit his weakness (since Sanji won't even attack things that he knows to not actually be female, if they happen to look female. Like with his fight against Mr. 2)

And, like you said, he flies. Sanji can cancel that out.

To make the fight more challenging he could paint a harem and use them to attack Sanji indirectly.
Nah, Sanji vs King or Queen looks more likely to happen given Scabbards are active and can handle Kanjuro and Orochi. There is also possibility of Zoro getting involve given stuff with Hiyori.

Plus Idk why you guys don't think Yamato or even Shinobi can't stop Kanjuro on their side and why Sanji should face someone he doesn't have ties with unlike with King or Queen. Female stuff doesn't really stop him where he see male enemy and plus King and Queen are the ones who want to go after Momo the most, so they going to take priority more.
 

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Isn't Kinemon going to find and defeat Kanjuro right now?
That's what I mean. Doesn't make sense why Sanji should face him when Scabbards are now active again and want to have their revenge. Why give it to someone else to Kanjuro when Kinemon vs Kanjuro is more deep given how long they known each other and have to be one to fight him in honor of Oden given they were trained by same person.
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Anyone thinking on new techniques or old techniques Sanji will show later. Feel like talk on Lineage Factor few chapters ago could relate something on him. Possible it could awaken experimental properties in his body into new stage of power.
 

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Anyone thinking on new techniques or old techniques Sanji will show later. Feel like talk on Lineage Factor few chapters ago could relate something on him. Possible it could awaken experimental properties in his body into new stage of power.
I have a couple of ideas.

1. Diable Jambe on both legs. He has already done something like this but not in a fight. I also imagine that Sanji could use that fire to boost his speed somehow and/or kick with both legs to double the damage.

2. Hotter fire. Like plasma level hot maybe?

3. Fire tornado. Basically we've seen Sanji spinning really fast to go into DJ mode. But I think it'd be cool if he could launch fire tornadoes out of that spinning. Kinda like Zoro's tatsumaki, but based on fire.

4. Black Haki. This one is pretty basic and self-explanatory.
 
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