Discussion The 11 Supernovae

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MY vote in the poll went to Kidd, but to be honest they are at around the same level of strength ie; they and Luffy will go on to become the equivelant of Yonkou in the New World.
 

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i think the most interesting one is definitely hawkins the magician,come on that guys awesome.
but i also like the way of law,he seems chill but strong, i dont get why he has such a low bounty he fought on a level with luffy and kidd, but i guess he's not a real threat to the WG, while kidd killed many civilians and luffy, defeated 2 warlords and declared war on the WG.
Is the straw hat crew still the only crew where everyone has a bounty?
 

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Let's talk about Scratchmen Apoo guys........if this guy learn to put haki in his attacks....that would be awesome and deadly!!!!I can't imagine any counter,because u can't know where the soundwave r going to affect u (look at Kizaru)....
What do u guys think?!
 

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Future prediction, for the all so famous 11 supernovas..
I know how lame this all sounds like, but bear with me, and try to see how fun it is to discuss the potential of them (11SN).

By "Future" in this specific case, I mean a mix of potential and mostly just prediction.

Luffy - Future Pirate King
Kidd - Future Yonkou or that kind of level of influence and power
Hawkins - Future Shichibukai (he fits very well)
Drake - Future Schibukai or Yonkou hard to tell, doesn't seem to have a lot of ambition IMO but he doesn't seem like a guy who goes back to the marines.
Law - Future Yonkou or that kind of level of influence and power
Apoo - Future Schibukai
Bonney - Future Yonkou or that kind of level of influence and power
Zoro - Future Greatest Swordsman
(Killer, might become fodder or just being there for making Kidd's crew a better rival for Luffy's crew)

Uroge & Capone - Going to get their ass handed in the new world IMO, so they will be fodder for showing how strong the current yonkou's are or the level of the new world
 

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Luffy - Future Pirate King
Kidd - Future Yonkou
Hawkins - Future Shichibukai
Drake - Yonkou, he will never ever cooperate with the marines again
Law - Future Yonkou
Apoo - Future Shichibukai
Bonney - Future Crewmember of the new restored Whitebeard pirates
Zoro - Future Greatest Swordsman, Shichibukai (i dont believe he will stay in the SH imo, his great loyality could be some day turn over)
Killer - Vice Captain under Kid
Urouge - Future God in Sky Island
Capone - Yonkou... that mafiatheme fits just too perfect

:P
 

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How come bonnie was crying lol? I never noticed that until just now. Wonder if she has a connection to WB or some other NW crew at this point.
there were a bunch of theories that she was WB's daughter or something like that... who knows. She probably does have some connection to WB.
 

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Just to say that you guys must not forget that in the future, they could be more/less than four pirates ruling the NW.
At the moment there are indeed four emperors (= Yonkou) in the NW, but if one of them had to fall, or if the organization of the NW had to change in the future, the number of emperors could differ from four. Thus saying someone in the future will be Yonkou is not very appropriated, the best would be to say someone will become emperor.
 

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Just to say that you guys must not forget that in the future, they could be more/less than four pirates ruling the NW.
At the moment there are indeed four emperors (= Yonkou) in the NW, but if one of them had to fall, or if the organization of the NW had to change in the future, the number of emperors could differ from four. Thus saying someone in the future will be Yonkou is not very appropriated, the best would be to say someone will become emperor.
If we go by that logic shichibukai [7 Military Seas] (maybe it's gonna become shibukai [Four Military Seas] or juuichibukai [Eleven Military Seas]) might as well cease to exist or just change, because nothing is certain. I went with the yonkou because that's how the OP world looks like right now, thus i have a basis on what I predict.

I don't see why your reasoning is more appropriated than mine. When we are only speculating, on what could happen.
I just used the facts at hand.

By "Future" in this specific case, I mean a mix of potential and mostly just prediction.
Just so you know.
 

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How would you rank the Supernova by powerscaling? Do not include Luffy and Zoro, please.
Since Kidd never showed anything impressive aside from that giant arm made of weapons of his, which we don't even know how powerful it is, I can't say he's the strongest of them.
I'd say that X Drake is the strongest of them. He was a Rear Admiral before becoming a pirate, and we know that RA is one rank below Vice Admirals, which is very impressive. Second, he is pretty strong.
Capone and Bonney has very cool abilities. Bonney can probably shoot beams like Hancock's and Foxy's, since she was sitting on a building when she affected the marines with her ability. As for Capone, I'd say that his ability works vice versa as well - I mean, that if things that come out out of his body restore its original size, so things that come at him, will become smaller. Things like punches, or weapons, so it's pretty much a good defence.
 

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What is oda reason?

What do you think, why did oda put such a weak supernova. I'm talking about capone ofks. I just don't see it, even buggy can defeat him. Without his men he is just a short old man without any kind of power? Can somebody shed some light on this question
 

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Re: What is oda reason?

I think we have to wait for his reappearrance to judge him properly.. so /chill
€ however I agree his powers seem weak but as Croco said" I depends on how you train your df :D"
 

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Re: What is oda reason?

well i think some are underestimating his ability, of course he needs his men, but just think about over the things you can dowith that... he could let giants punch out of him, a skilled swordman could send some flying slashes, he can act to enemys from his back etc. its quite a strong ability if you uses that right
 

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Re: What is oda reason?

Bounty is not the measure of someone's power, but someone's threat level to the government.
 

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Re: What is oda reason?

So you think that his only use is having men inside his body?

Please tell me what his power is. If you can tell me exactly what his power is you either have a startling power of foresight or you're not seeing the big picture.

What is the big picture I hear you ask? Well, if he can make things go from small to big from inside to outside his body, what happens in the reverse scenario?

We've also never seen him physically attack, just leave it to his "sons". Not attacking is not the same as having a weak attack.
 

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Re: What is oda reason?

What do you think, why did oda put such a weak supernova. I'm talking about capone ofks. I just don't see it, even buggy can defeat him. Without his men he is just a short old man without any kind of power? Can somebody shed some light on this question
Really??!?? :blink

Well from the factual knowledge we have "he" defeated a squad of Marines and was able to safely exit SA after the arrival of Kizaru. Not only that but really I think his power is quite strong actually. But know what? we have absolutely no Idea of what he's fully capable of. One way or the other he did enough to rise in the world of piracy to SN level, and is headed beyond.

Sure he looks like Al Capone, but seems like he's been around. There's more to being influential than simple brute force...
 

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the strawhats seem to have the smallest crew out of the other supernova crews. for sure hawkins and capone have bigger crews. i cant wait to see their crews introduced.
 

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Re: What is oda reason?

Really??!?? :blink
Well from the factual knowledge we have "he" defeated a squad of Marines and was able to safely exit SA after the arrival of Kizaru. Not only that but really I think his power is quite strong actually. But know what? we have absolutely no Idea of what he's fully capable of. One way or the other he did enough to rise in the world of piracy to SN level, and is headed beyond.
Sure he looks like Al Capone, but seems like he's been around. There's more to being influential than simple brute force...
Agreed.

If his powers are to change the size of things surrounding him He can reduce damages in such a great way. All bullets suddenly being like mosquitoes and same goes for cannons. It's a great tactical ability if you ask me.
 

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i would assume we will not see the supernova for a while after law takes off.
 
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