Doesn't matter.... the fact that we are finishing chances now is a lot better. No one can deny had we finish our chances in other matches we wouldn't be in our position. It's not like we didn't create chances, we just didn't finish them. If we can continue finishing our chances we gonna be a force to reckon with.
Funny you said that you can't underestimate teams in Cl... I was talking to a friend at the pub while watching the City game and I said that City aren't ready for CL football.In fact, I said this since last season when they didn't play very well in Cl. They have a lot of talent, there's no doubting that. But they lack the hunger and passion to go all out and win. You can see by their reactions and their faces that they don't enjoy themselves most of the time...with the exception of a few players. Dortmund doesn't have a good record in Europe, but today they played to win... they messed up their chances, but they showed that they want to win. City not so much.
You can never underestimate anyone, barring the complete noobs like FCN (and even they put up a good fight against Chelsea on Tuesday), such as how APOEL made it to the QFs last year. We saw the same issues in the CL with City last year and it's continuing. City should be down six points to both Madrid and Dortmund, but Dortmund screwed up some chances and ended up with a draw because of a bs home penalty decision.Funny you said that you can't underestimate teams in Cl... I was talking to a friend at the pub while watching the City game and I said that City aren't ready for CL football.In fact, I said this since last season when they didn't play very well in Cl. They have a lot of talent, there's no doubting that. But they lack the hunger and passion to go all out and win. You can see by their reactions and their faces that they don't enjoy themselves most of the time...with the exception of a few players. Dortmund doesn't have a good record in Europe, but today they played to win... they messed up their chances, but they showed that they want to win. City not so much.
Now, to the Juventus game that was totally an eye sore for Juve fans. They really looked nothing like the Juventus team that is so dominant in the midfield with the likes of Vidal and Pirlo. They looked like they were scared and Shaktar took full advantage of that. I hope they can win their next game and continue to win. Really want them to make it to the semis at least.. or even win it all
... i just watched the highlights of City vs Dortmund and it seemed it was a really interesting game!
They downplay bundisliga because it is more competitive than EPL or La Liga in terms of how many teams actually have a shot at the title.English people always claim the EPL is the most competitive and best league which is simply not true...history can back that up with how many english teams actually won CL. It wasn't always like that though, because Bayern used to always win it, but now there are more than 3 teams who challenge for the title. While in EPL and Liga, its always down to two teams.You can never underestimate anyone, barring the complete noobs like FCN (and even they put up a good fight against Chelsea on Tuesday), such as how APOEL made it to the QFs last year. We saw the same issues in the CL with City last year and it's continuing. City should be down six points to both Madrid and Dortmund, but Dortmund screwed up some chances and ended up with a draw because of a bs home penalty decision.
While people claim that Dortmund doesn't have a good record in European competition, they beat the Zidane-led Juventus side in the 96-97 CL Final 3-1. Paul Lambert, that lamer who managed Norwich and now manages Villa, completely shut down Zidane in that match.
While I know a lot of people look down on the Bundesliga, they are the third highest rated league in Europe, having pipped knocked Italy out of the third spot last year, so now the Bundesliga gets four CL spots, not Italy. Reus, Dortmund's goal scorer tonight, is the player I have rated the highest out of all young players. I think he's more of a threat than Hazard, for example. In the end, I'm not sure if Reus will end up being better than Hazard, but I'm just saying don't sleep on Reus. A lot of the English commentators tend to look down on the Bundesliga and players who don't play for traditionally big teams or aren't linked to traditionally big teams, and I think that that leads to a lot of people being unaware of the talent that exists elsewhere.
Chelsea utterly shut down Juve's midfield, but two poor moments, including that Mikel pass, gifted Juve two soft goals, so nothing's changed. I do think Juve will probably qualify second out of the group, but Shakhtar may still pip them for it.
That doesn't actually make the Bundesliga a league that should be looked down on though. It just meant that only Bayern spent cash in the past, but now other teams do as well. Schalke made it to the CL SFs a few years ago. Bayern's been in the final two of the last three years, although they have lost both finals. When only two teams challenge for the league title, that actually makes the league less competitive because there's a gulf between two teams and the rest. Until City won last year, Chelsea had United had combined for the previous seven or eight titles. In La Liga, Valencia won in like 01-02, but only Barca and Madrid have won since then.
That's what I'm saying. Commentators are only downlplaying Bundesliga because they are biased toward EPL and La Liga. Can name at least 2 leagues that is more competitive than both EPL and La Liga,but those leagues aren't well known and as such, doesn't get notice. Leagues like J-league are so competitive that you can never know who is gonna win. Of course the quality of the players and the league is a huge difference, but my point is most people only watch EPL and La Liga. That why you will always hear things like "EPL is the best league in the world!" which imo, is not true at all. It's really no surprise English commentators are biased when it comes to teams like Chelsea and Manchester Utd and even Barca and Madrid.
Well, all of the commentators who are biased in favor of Chelsea, United, Barca, and Madrid do have at least one large point. Those are the four most decorated teams in the last decade, even if Madrid doesn't have a CL title during that span.
The worst CL will always be 04. (Sorry jorped, but I still havent gotten over that Chelsea match)