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Even if ferguson says that he'd rather let him rot in the reserve instead of selling, well he cannot do that coz u cannot keep a player at a club against he's wishes, besides UEFA will need to step to sort out the case anyway....
 

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well he cannot do that coz u cannot keep a player at a club against he's wishes
Well, you can :P Ronaldo has a contract he signed of free will with United, so he's free to leave as soon as that contract ends, which is about 4 or 5 years from now. If he stops playing coz he's pissed off (like Ronaldinho), his market value will decrease, but so will the interest in him.
 

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Yea... but soon or later ferguson will have to just let him leave, anyways i'm sure theres a way a player can pay off the remaining years of his contract so y can't he just do that instead to just make things easier for himself......
 

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Yea... but soon or later ferguson will have to just let him leave, anyways i'm sure theres a way a player can pay off the remaining years of his contract so y can't he just do that instead to just make things easier for himself......
I think the only way a player can leave by paying off his remaining contract salaries to the club is to invoke the Webster law. 'The Webster Rule states that any player between the age of 23 and 28 WHO HAS SERVED over 3 years on a 5 year contract is entitled to leave as long as they (or more realistically, their new club) is willing to pay the remaining wages on the contract.' Since Ronaldo signed a 5 year contract last year, he still needs 2 years to play for MU to invoke this law.
Its a possibility, but its pretty rare. I doubt Ronaldo (or Real Madrid) could wait 2 years without signing a new and more lucrative deal with United. The fact that Fergunson get him to sign a new contract every year tells me he's aware of this possibility, and he'll avoid that for sure imo.
The truth is, FCPorto's Paulo Assunção used this rule a month ago and he went to Atletico de Madrid in a surprising transfer


See this:
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/5065/messixd0.jpg

LO~~~~L!!! This guy is really famous.
wow! messi on a japanese manga magazine cover! the guy's everywhere :O
Speaking of which, what's the thing with Barça and Messi going to the olympics? I thought every player with less than 24 years could join the olympic squad on free will, but it seems like Barça want him out of the Argentinian squad and somehow they seem to be doing it! Can they legally keep a 21 year old player out of the olympics?
 
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Well for those who still thinks that ronaldo gonna stay ...The answer is no ...!!
WE ManUtd Have won everything we could have altogether ronaldo too has won all possibl medals so just as we let goo of beckham we have to let ronaldo go and accept that..!!

Well now what we must do is look for a replacement for him ...and IMO A.Lennon Will be a good fit..!!
 

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I doubt the Spurs will sell at all lol
 

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XxVascoxX said:
Well now what we must do is look for a replacement for him ...and IMO A.Lennon Will be a good fit..!!
If you dont mind me saying, that would be like swapping a ferrari for a skoda. >.> (but skoda's are not bad cars mind you :p)

wow! messi on a japanese manga magazine cover! the guy's everywhere :O
Speaking of which, what's the thing with Barça and Messi going to the olympics? I thought every player with less than 24 years could join the olympic squad on free will, but it seems like Barça want him out of the Argentinian squad and somehow they seem to be doing it! Can they legally keep a 21 year old player out of the olympics?
I think they can since its not a FIFA competition, but im not really sure. Its doesnt matter anyway, they've been told to let him go :p

As for the transfer news, Robbie keane moved to liverpool from spurs for mega bucks. Liverpool's six signing this summer, and they mean buisness. I suppose almost 20 years without the league title is getting too much for merseyside. xDD Chelsea have been linked with robinho but nothing so far, and united have been quiet this summer, no signings but are still linked with raiding spurs for berbatov.

Arsenal have signed the french born portuguese under-21 international, bischoff from werder bremen. Typical wenger signing, nobody has heard of him (Even some werder fans, since he only made one appearence xD). But he admits its a gamble since the player has been plagued by injury.

oh, and spurs bought bentley for a lot, and we end up pocketing something like 7 million. But also establishes the already well known fact that bentley is a huge cunt:notrust
 

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As for the transfer news, Robbie keane moved to liverpool from spurs for mega bucks. Liverpool's six signing this summer, and they mean buisness. I suppose almost 20 years without the league title is getting too much for merseyside. xDD Chelsea have been linked with robinho but nothing so far, and united have been quiet this summer, no signings but are still linked with raiding spurs for berbatov.
Keane is a huge striker, but I never saw L'pool out of options for the attack. The price they paid for him seems a little too far as well. Still, I think he'll do a very strong attacking pair with el niño and with Gerrard behind.
The market in England's not as active as the Spanish. Real Madrid isnt giving up Ronaldo and they seem to have about 85M€ ready for him even tough they just signed van der Vaart and they're attempting to buy Villa for about 40M€ as well. I wonder if their money is infinite...

Arsenal have signed the french born portuguese under-21 international, bischoff from werder bremen. Typical wenger signing, nobody has heard of him (Even some werder fans, since he only made one appearence xD). But he admits its a gamble since the player has been plagued by injury.
As you say, typical Wenger signing. I hadnt even heard of this transfer even tough a portuguese international u-21 went to Arsenal... I hope Wenger turns him into a monster soon :P
And I guess you were right, Adebayor is staying with the gunners and he may sign a new contract soon.

Porto's Quaresma will most likely stay in Portugal, since the only interested, Inter Milan, has already splashed the cash on Mancini, Muntari and now a center back from Romenia for some impressive 15M€. I never heard of the guy, but the price he costed Inter tells me he's ready to replace Materazzi. I'm just surprised Porto seems to be managing to keep Lucho Gonzalez, Quaresma, Bruno Alves and Lisandro Lopez. I'm confident it'll be another year of glory in the portuguese league, but in CL we should go further
 

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Keane is a huge striker, but I never saw L'pool out of options for the attack. The price they paid for him seems a little too far as well. Still, I think he'll do a very strong attacking pair with el niño and with Gerrard behind.
I have a bad feeling that Keane will most likely to sit on the bench with Liverpool. But that's just me. What i'm saying is, Liverpool already got a great lineup, even without Keane. And eventhough Keane is awesome both as attacking midfield or as a forward, his chance of being in the starting eleven is a bit slim in liverpool.

The market in England's not as active as the Spanish. Real Madrid isnt giving up Ronaldo and they seem to have about 85M€ ready for him even tough they just signed van der Vaart and they're attempting to buy Villa for about 40M€ as well. I wonder if their money is infinite...
That's why they're called Lost Galacticos. The sky's the limit. Maybe they got like 5 Abrahamovich supporting Real. :XD
 

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I have a bad feeling that Keane will most likely to sit on the bench with Liverpool. But that's just me. What i'm saying is, Liverpool already got a great lineup, even without Keane. And eventhough Keane is awesome both as attacking midfield or as a forward, his chance of being in the starting eleven is a bit slim in liverpool.
And that just increases L'pool's chances of success this season. With Keane they have a player that can replace any striker or attacking midfielder with great class. I wonder if the reds will settle down in the premier league this year. Its about time they do...

That's why they're called Lost Galacticos. The sky's the limit. Maybe they got like 5 Abrahamovich supporting Real. :XD
They must have... and they're not shy at all to spend that money. I mean, last year they placed Robben on the bench for the whole season. He used to enter the match after 80 minutes played. Now they have Vaart and they're looking for Ronaldo as well... Shouldnt they at least sell a player or 2? I heard Robinho was leaving, but I heard he was not as well. I think next season Real Madrid will have the best 11 and a bench capable of winning the champions league by itself
 

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They must have... and they're not shy at all to spend that money. I mean, last year they placed Robben on the bench for the whole season. He used to enter the match after 80 minutes played. Now they have Vaart and they're looking for Ronaldo as well... Shouldnt they at least sell a player or 2? I heard Robinho was leaving, but I heard he was not as well. I think next season Real Madrid will have the best 11 and a bench capable of winning the champions league by itself
That's always been the thing with Real Madrid, they buy every good/great players just to make them sit on the bench a whole season long. In EPL, Chelsea is starting that "trend" now with so many good players on their side.
 

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I have a bad feeling that Keane will most likely to sit on the bench with Liverpool. But that's just me. What i'm saying is, Liverpool already got a great lineup, even without Keane. And eventhough Keane is awesome both as attacking midfield or as a forward, his chance of being in the starting eleven is a bit slim in liverpool.
It depends on where benitez wants keane to play. Most people think, he will be partnering torres because to be honest kuyt and voronin are not going to get you goals, and from a couple of pre seasons matches they seemed to be developing that partnership. So i wont be surprised if does actually play. Probably right behind torres, in a second-striker role, flicking balls on etc

The main pre-season friendlies have started, and the most interesting one was Chelsea demolishing AC Milan 5-0. Anelka got four, maybe a sign of things to come. Anyway The Emirates cup is over, Hamburg won it, but it was still good practice for arsenal, juventus and real madrid.

And the only real surprise performer in the Emirates cup, was the 16-year old jack wilshere , he had a masterclass performance against juventus, and would have scored the goal of the pre-season if it wasnt for buffon, he then played the ending of the real madrid match, and stretched the madrid back line to breaking point (humiliating garcia in the process). He is going to be playing with the first team after his performances, and it would be interesting to see if he breaks the record for youngest player to play for arsenal (held by fabregas) Anyway thats enough drooling from me, but the boy is just amazing for a 16 year old!!!!

Oh, and we also broke sneijder. >.>


One of the funniest things ive seen this summer. Its bayern presenting their new kit, and i have a inclination that whoever thought this up has been having a little too much to drink (the best is at around 1:25 min XDDDD).
 
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I didnt watch the Emirates Cup, except for the ending of Real Madrid - Hamburg. The injury on Sjneider may just drive them forward into hiring van der Vaart as soon as possible.
I watched Chelsea - Milan. The numbers dont fool. Chelsea was light years ahead of Milan in everything, and I'm really enjoying watching Chelsea's football. Deco has settled and very well in London and I'm sure he'll leave behind magic on the premier league as he plays. With a stronger Liverpool, the same Man U and an Arsenal without important and long injuries, this upcoming league has to be interesting!

Now, that Bayern's kit presentation was bizarre! loool watta hell?
Speaking of funny moments, for those who havent seen it, you must see Chelsea's 3rd goal against Milan: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=KrczZCNY7y0
Milan's GK, Kalac, did a terrible match, to the point it started to be funny just to watch him fail again. But that miss on Anelka's goal was outstanding!


And the only real surprise performer in the Emirates cup, was the 16-year old jack wilshere , he had a masterclass performance against juventus, and would have scored the goal of the pre-season if it wasnt for buffon, he then played the ending of the real madrid match, and stretched the madrid back line to breaking point (humiliating garcia in the process). He is going to be playing with the first team after his performances, and it would be interesting to see if he breaks the record for youngest player to play for arsenal (held by fabregas) Anyway thats enough drooling from me, but the boy is just amazing for a 16 year old!!!!
You speak of Aaron Ramsey, right? I think he's already turned 17, so he couldnt break Fabregas record. Still, its always incredible how Arsenal always turns these guys into monsters so quick
 
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I didnt watch the Emirates Cup, except for the ending of Real Madrid - Hamburg. The injury on Sjneider may just drive them forward into hiring van der Vaart as soon as possible.
The injury seems bad, he'll be out for some time now. And to be honest im losing confidence in abou diaby, he seems like a red card waiting to happen. ^^; But madrid have acted, the officially sign VDV. Its a good signing for madrid, and from the prices being quoted(9 million euro's), its also one hell of a bargain (considering what players like barry and bentley are going for >.>).
Speaking of funny moments, for those who havent seen it, you must see Chelsea's 3rd goal against Milan: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=KrczZCNY7y0
Milan's GK, Kalac, did a terrible match, to the point it started to be funny just to watch him fail again. But that miss on Anelka's goal was outstanding!
Lol, reminds me of lehman last season. Its funny too since kalac was saying not so long ago about how good the milan keepers are. XD
You speak of Aaron Ramsey, right? I think he's already turned 17, so he couldnt break Fabregas record. Still, its always incredible how Arsenal always turns these guys into monsters so quick
No i was not speaking of ramsey xD (although he is also talented). I was speaking about this guy. He's just been added to the first team, after some amazing performances in pre-season. He is only a school boy and still hasnt signed a contract yet, but has a great future ahead of him. :amuse
 

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Arsenal's age average mustnt exceed 21 years old... unbelievable.

Benfica hired Jose Antonio Reyes on loan from Atletico de Madrid. Its another great name for Benfica and I'm not liking it. They're still looking for a center forward and I just hope its Espanhol's Luis Garcia, coz at this rate they'd hire Henry or Rooney eventually. Its undoubtedly the best transfer market ever for Benfica and this portuguese league may get interesting at last.

C.Ronaldo is staying with United for one more year, but he's reserved by Real Madrid for 1 July 2009. I dont know if this is something official, but anyways this may work wrong for Ronaldo. Imagine a CL final between Man U and Real Madrid :P I guess Ronaldo would have to dress half red half blanco
 

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The EPL season finally starts!!!! :jbya
watched a few games yesterday.
Arsenal was impressive, but i feel they should have started with Van persie...... arsenal won 1-0 against west brom... should have scored more i think...
Middlesbrogh was awesome against spurs. They won 2-1
Liverpool...... they were boring! they won 1-0 but it's all thanks to torres.....
 

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Impressive is a bit of a over-statement. >.> Arsenal played well but they seemed jittery like in the CL qualifier against twente. Match sharpness, i suppose. The spurs match made my day, ahh, i suppose thats what happens when your team lacks balance. (2-1 was actually a compliment, the 1 goal they scored was a own goal in stoppage time). To be fair, i thought Sunderland deserved at least a draw against liverpool.

United drew with newcastle, i didnt watch the match so i dont know how well they did. But draw isnt bad at this stage but it might not give them the momentum they desired. As for chelsea....they...won...by a lot. >.>;;;

Transfer news, berbatov is very very close to going to united. And apparently robinho is also close to going to chelsea. Both good players. And wenger says he'll buy another player before the end of the window. But is not saying a word on who it is....*crosses fingers for cana >.>*
 

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I was mostly surprised with sunderland. They did very good against the reds. This is impressive coz last year sunderland sucked and they saved themselves from going to the second division almost like miracle. I didnt watch any other match, but I guess Chelsea is on fire. Deco is a great reinforcement and I can tell bosingwa will be as well.
Nasri had the perfect 1st match for the gunners. It just reinforces the idea that Arsenal is stronger than last year as long as the injuries dont accomulate
 
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