The Future of Aokiji

[Kaiten]

That would be a very interesting team. Garp and Aokiji traveling the new world together. No matter what really happened between he and Akainu there is no doubt that Aokiji will have a role to play later. Garp will too, and it would be very interesting if they were together.

 

[rosco12]

Personnaly, when I red the chapter, and find out about the fight between Akainu and Aokiji, I immediately considered it a made up story. I believe that after the war with Whitebeard, the WG decided that the result of that war gave them a great opportunity.
The result of the war were:
- one yonkou gone
- Blackbeard making is move to take the title
- the remnant of the Whitebeard pirates struggling in the new world
- and by luck 7 supernova entering it as well (7 supernova were consider enough to affect the new world).
When you put all this together, it's clear that the pirates in the NW will be to busy to trouble the WG much.

So the WG decided to turn their attention to their other problem: the Revolutionnary army. And to deal with it, they came up with a plan to infiltrate it with someone strong enough to actually hurt it. From there came the plan, that Aokiji sense of justice will make him much more believable as revolutionary than the other admirals, so they created a situation, where it looks like he really dislike the direction the WG is going, and is ready to fight to oppose it. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that during the two year time skip, Aokiji was witnessed preventing/stopping some questionable act of the government, just to make is story more believable once he joins the revolutionary army.

 

[Newkerzy]

I think "dead men tell no tales" meant that the fight was winner take all, a fight to the death. Aokiji lived because Akainu is not quite monster enough to kill another comrade. You are right though, there is nothing to indicate the fight was fair or honorable. All we know is that Aokiji hates Akainu and is no ally of the marines. What he thinks about the Marie and World Government as institutions are another story, I am not sure he has turned against them so much as he is an enemy of one high ranking man. That is why I do not think he will become a Revolutionary, he would have to support the complete destruction of the World Government and Marine in order to join their cause. He may aid them later on, if he thinks that they can defeat certain unjust individuals within the government, be it Akainu or the Gorosei, without destroying the entire system.

That would be a very interesting team. Garp and Aokiji traveling the new world together. No matter what really happened between he and Akainu there is no doubt that Aokiji will have a role to play later. Garp will too, and it would be very interesting if they were together.

I have said this way back, Aokiji was nominated for the position because Garp and Sengoku knew that WG was downright corrupt and they weren't blind about it. Not only that, they also knew that Blackbeard must be defeated for the sake of the entire world. To do that, they would need to form an alliance with the pirates (and perhaps RA). And the only person who's willing to compromise for that situation would be Aokiji. Aokiji also serves as a buffer to prevent the WG from over-abusing their authorities. That's what Garp and Sengoku was aiming for.

 

[Kaiten]

Personnaly, when I red the chapter, and find out about the fight between Akainu and Aokiji, I immediately considered it a made up story. I believe that after the war with Whitebeard, the WG decided that the result of that war gave them a great opportunity.
The result of the war were:
- one yonkou gone
- Blackbeard making is move to take the title
- the remnant of the Whitebeard pirates struggling in the new world
- and by luck 7 supernova entering it as well (7 supernova were consider enough to affect the new world).
When you put all this together, it's clear that the pirates in the NW will be to busy to trouble the WG much.

So the WG decided to turn their attention to their other problem: the Revolutionnary army. And to deal with it, they came up with a plan to infiltrate it with someone strong enough to actually hurt it. From there came the plan, that Aokiji sense of justice will make him much more believable as revolutionary than the other admirals, so they created a situation, where it looks like he really dislike the direction the WG is going, and is ready to fight to oppose it. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that during the two year time skip, Aokiji was witnessed preventing/stopping some questionable act of the government, just to make is story more believable once he joins the revolutionary army.

I'm not sure we can consider the narrator unreliable at this point, until we know the source of the news. Jinbe is to honest to repeat something he belived to be lies. For all we know Aokiji himself spread word of the battle. Even if Akainu released an embellished story I expect certain facts to be true: there was a battle, Aokiji lost but survived, and is no longer a marine. Akainu may have won via devious means, he may have intended to take Aokiji's life yet failed, but the results will be as Jinbe reported. The bigger question is what role will Aokiji play, now that he is no longer a marine. There are now three very, very powerful former marines wandering about: Aokiji, Garp, and Sengoku. All three have a role to play, and one can assume that even if they do not ally themselves with pirates or the revolutionaries, they will be antagonistic towards the marine.

 

[Shojin]

Something tells me that he'll end up with the revolutionary army.

 

[Giotto10]

Does anybody see aokiji becoming one of the strawhats?

well i have been dying to ask this question so i made an account. so do you guys think he might join i mean he is not in with the WG anymore so he has no ties with them. i know that some of you will say that if he joins the strawhats they will be way to powerful and specially after luffy asked jimbe to join but i think that doesn't matter since the opponents they are going to face will be a lot stronger too.

 

[Oni Giri]

Re: Does anybody see aokiji becoming one of the strawhats?

ok. first, calm down, breath deeply.

if he's convinced that government is corrupted and evil he should join the revolution. why would he bother with piracy after his long life as an admiral. i don't think he'd be a pirate just to see the other side.

and i dont agree that their opponents will be a lot stronger than aokiji. at best 3-4 people will be slightly stronger than aokiji imo.

 

[hoeru]

Re: Does anybody see aokiji becoming one of the strawhats?

No. I don't think he'll join the Strawhats as member. As assist somewhere, maybe. But for now, there might be another possible affiliation within the world government like the Cipher Pol units.

As Jinbe said, no one knows what happened to him nor where he went. And he has always stood for relaxed justice. The Strawhat Pirates just want to fulfill their dreams - and I don't see how Kuzan would fit into this.

 

[tret16]

Re: Does anybody see aokiji becoming one of the strawhats?

i personally see Aokiji joining the RA before joinin the strawhats. The revolutionaries work is to destroy the evil of marines basically. So i could see him joining the RA in order to take out the evil influences.

 

[FriedRice]

Re: Does anybody see aokiji becoming one of the strawhats?

Knowing How Aokiji likes to sleep and relax, he's probably out there somewhere on some random island taking a nap! But yes, him joining the Rebel army is more likely than him joining the straw hats

 

[Kaiten]

Short answer: no.

I do not see him joining the Strawhats, or any pirate crew. Not really in character. Nor would it add anything to the story. Like Hoeru I could see him aiding the Strawhats later in the story, but not becoming a permanent crew member.

 

[Zatono]

Re: Does anybody see aokiji becoming one of the strawhats?

i personally see Aokiji joining the RA before joinin the strawhats. The revolutionaries work is to destroy the evil of marines basically. So i could see him joining the RA in order to take out the evil influences.

Actually, the goal of the RA is to topple the World Government entirely IIRC. TBH I don't think Aokiji really wants the world to go into a state of panic.

I like the idea that he'll join Garp. Sengoku would probably be there as well.

 

[Kaiten]

How Aokiji feels about the World Government post-Marineford is an open question. It would be entirely within the story if he comes to the conclusion that his justice and the World Governments "justice" are quite different. I would be more surprised if were to remain an ally of the government, even in exile. When the final battle comes I fully expect that he will be on the side of the Pirate King, not the Marines and not the Government. He may never join the Revolutionary Army but at some point he will be an enemy of the Marines, not an ally in exile.

 

[Regino]

Aokiji will play an important role sooner or later... The setup made by Oda makes it impossible that he simply vanishes.
I think a role compared to Rayleighs fits for him... fighting on his own and living his life and at some time he will come back. To be an active opponent for the WG does not suit him, he was a Marine for all his life and you dont throw your whole life away only because you dont like the new leader of the marine forces.

One aspect which disturbes me is that we dont know how Garp and Sengoku reacted, both of them are good friends/supporters of Aokiji and especially Garp has a "problem" with Akainu.

maybe they form a bountyhunter trio

 

[Kaiten]

That sounds reasonable - Aokiji wandering around the New World, snoozing on random island, making an ice bridge when he feels like moving on.

 

[zerocooldx]

I could see Aokiji, Sengoku, and Garp secretly forming some type of a "organization" of "good" Marines, ones that hold the same values and beliefs as them rather then the ones that the WG has been pushing. Ultimately the Marines are the good guys and the Pirates are the bad guys, with exceptions of course. But i think in the end change will come to the WG and Marines, and once it does i can see the values and beliefs that Aokiji, Sengoku, and Garp value shining through and taking the main stage.

 

[Schabrak]

But wouldn't that go against those two personalities? Both spend their life serving the Marines and just because Akainu is acting it more hot blooded than before, it wont turn then to traitors Imo. It was Sengoku that gave Akainu that position after all. I don't see those two turn against the WG unless something major happens to make them doubt the goal of the organisation.

EDIT:

The rank of admiral, not fleet admiral.

It wasn't clear so I added my point in bolded letters. You should read all posts on the page before formulating arguments against my opinon, otherwise part of your message may become void.

 

[Regino]

But wouldn't that go against those two personalities? Both spend their life serving the Marines and just because Akainu is acting it more hot blooded than before, it wont turn then to traitors Imo. It was Sengoku that gave Akainu that position after all. I don't see those two turn against the WG unless something major happens to make them doubt the goal of the organisation.

It was certainly not Sengoku who gave Akainu his position. Unless you think that Sengokus retreat was the reason for Akainus new position. Sengoku stepped down from his post and suggested Aokiji as his successor. The World Government/Kong/Goursei (whatever, but not Sengoku) then promoted Akainu and after that Aokiji fought with him.

Garp wanted to kill Akainu right after he killed Ace...

I dont see them as aktive opponents, but I am sure that all three are not fighting for the Marines anymore.

 

[Schabrak]

The rank of admiral, not fleet admiral.

So he killed Ace, which was the official order from Sengoku, to kill pirates and execute Ace. That's why Garp didn't participate in the war, because he was in conflict with his feelings, but never forget that he was also the one sitting besides Ace waiting for his imminent death.

 

[Ninja_Pirate]

As i see .. aokiji is a very lazy guy, atleast that s how he was introduced to start with...

he is a guy who looks for an early retirement and i guess when it was told to him that sengoku has asked him to be his successor he would have been like WTF!!!!! why!!! ... thats so troublesome///

but then the story tuk a turn and kong said that akainu will be the fleet admiral, aokiji's first impression would be ... yeah.. I am saved ... but then he must have thought about that working under akainu would be a pain since have to run here and there all the time ... so aokiji decided to retire..

but then everyone must have started doing... boooooosssss .. then he thought he has to fight him and then get done with it .. and the fight kept on dragging for days... (aokiji mind---- wtf? why it is not ending.. that shithead akainu has no talent I am already giving up and still he can't manage to end the fight) .... (Akainus mind : You ass ... I know you wanna run away but i will drag this fight ) ...
then finally aokiji frustrated and must have called for rock paper scissor .. and aokiji called for "ice" (wtf ,,, it is supposed to be a rock paper scissor) .. so akainu called for lava .. ice melted.. akainu won... and there goes aokiji.. on some island .. where he can lay down on his back looking at the sky... clouds passing by... sun rise ... sun set ... stars... life is chill (literally as for aokiji )