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Because of this I think we need another game to cover the event from Big Boss' s perspective, or just right before the events in MG. In a way I guess that I understand how since it is supposed to be the last game in the series, it should be about BB himself, but we clearly didn't get that. So it leaves the impression that it was unfinished.
I mean, in a way we got that - MGS3. That was the true origin story and is probably the favorite of the series for me. I do understand that there is a bit of a gap where there's not much attached to why Big Boss became "the bad guy", so maybe people are having a negative reaction due to it looking like this game would show that.

Funnily enough, before any of us knew any better I always figured it was something akin to what happened with The Boss. Because it wasn't as simple and noble as this, it probably needed a better explanation.
 

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It seemed like it was stuck between one thing and the other. Due the overall story it had to be about Big Boss and his gang having their breaking bad moments. Since they are bad guys later on.

But instead this game was like you said, transforming the player character into Big Boss. But it can't really succeed at that since the player has no control or influence on the story arcs so the player leaves no mark on the story. I actually thought it was doing pretty well near the end taking the approach of "this is guy who lost everything and it's going to break him" but then the very end was like "Nope, it's about the Boss's Phantom you the player".

Which just leaves me annoyed because it definitely wasn't about me. I know that because I would have murdered Miller for being mean to Quiet and totally shot Eli because D-Bags of that magnitude should not be wielding magic powers. I've seen the movie The Omen, I know what's going on here. Then ask why Quiet needs to be naked for her parasites to work and yet the old Indian guy does not; while rolling my eyes.
Yeah it can be definitely be seen as the player being Big Boss's phantom.And this somehow works in the timeline, meaning that Solid Snake didn't kill Big Boss the first time, or even the second time now that I think about it. While it would have been interesting to see the real Big Boss become such a bad guy, I'm a bit relieved that it wasn't him all this timeXD.

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I mean, in a way we got that - MGS3. That was the true origin story and is probably the favorite of the series for me. I do understand that there is a bit of a gap where there's not much attached to why Big Boss became "the bad guy", so maybe people are having a negative reaction due to it looking like this game would show that.

Funnily enough, before any of us knew any better I always figured it was something akin to what happened with The Boss. Because it wasn't as simple and noble as this, it probably needed a better explanation.
Yeah same here MGS3 will always be one of my favorites, even in terms of story. But here the issue is that like you said things appeared as Big Boss himself was becoming the bad guy, which should logically happen based on the fact that he was the main villain Solid Snake fought in Outer Heaven and Zanzibar land. But even before that previous games like MGS4 pretty much revealed that he wasn't actually the bad guy, but Zero. So he never truly was as bad as he appeared in the first MG games. It seems Kojima wanted things to continue that way, by absolving BB from some crimes that were attributed to him, when it can be said it's the phantom's doing.
 
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Okay I just finished MGS V and.. I have mixed feelings about it now.

Let’s talk about things I like. I need to say I love the gameplay so much, it’s superb and engrossing, it has the depth and complexity that most people wouldn’t fully appreciate unless they’re playing each mission for several times. It’s satisfying when you are able to try different strategies to solve each mission, and your creativity is being rewarded most of the time. It also has a lot of collectibles – which might be a minor issue for many people, but for me personally it could affect my overall enjoyment about RPG/open world/action game like this. I love collecting animals, weapons, and costumes and it is immensely fun trying different weapons and how different weapon choices would change your game plan from being a sneaky, stealthy, infiltrator to create an all-out war with explosives and rockets. Bottom line is, I had a lot of fun playing it, and I don’t think there was a single moment when I felt genuinely frustrated because of boredom or lack of progress. Kudos to Kojima and co. in gameplay department, in general it’s really satisfying.

Some of the things that I don’t like about the game. Gameplay-wise, the game doesn’t really tell you the basic knowledge about the game. For instance, the “difficulty” level of enemies – I didn’t know that for example enemies would start using heavy weaponry and snipers if you abuse your sniping weapons or Quite. I learned that from a YT video. It’s pretty easy to get overwhelmed by the mechanics unless you are looking up on articles or YT videos. Another thing that irks me: you definitely need to grind for staff members (which you can do by replaying several missions over and over again). The difference in difficulty between Mission 7 and Mission 8 and 9 for example, was somewhat irritating because the game did not tell you to be prepared that you are going to face several tanks. Sure you can detonate them with C4, but unless you are fully prepared for what is going to come, I assume a lot of people would get their ass kicked due to their meager equipment.

As for the story, this is something that I have a lot of issues with. I won’t bother you with my rants about every single detail that makes little sense (or none at all) but there are two issues that are so bothering me thus I need to talk about them: First, the Truth ending totally squanders the game’s premise. From the posts that I have read in this thread it seems people who are familiar with the story ending also agree that it is such a waste that the entire game is basically build up based on a terrible deception. You get emotionally invested and suddenly, in an M. Night Shmalayan-esque twist, you are just playing an avatar of The Legendary Soldier. It’s upsetting.

Second, it’s all about Quiet. It seems the general consensus is that she is arguably the best character in the game (an opinion that I agree with), yet I feel like her character is not being fleshed out. This is a matter of personal perspective of course, but once again, I feel like her character is being wasted while in fact her role in the story can be expanded. I think her story does not provide ample justification for her silly outfit – it’s not a thing that I feel personally offended with, though I somewhat agree that her fabric is obviously a textbook example of oversexualization in media – and her story ending, while dramatic, left me unimpressed. I don’t see why they are implying there’s a romantic undertone between Venom and her though, that feels forced.

My conclusion is, if I am assessing this game from gameplay alone, this one would easily be 10/10. If I have to take the storyline into account, I have to give this game 8/10 at best. Thankfully the story does not ruin the whole gameplay experience for me, but the story itself is still a displeasing experience.
 
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With you 100% Doraku. I mean, I think it's still the best Metal Gear game but the flaws in it's story hold it back quite a bit.

I kinda liked the romantic undertone between Venom and Quiet but I have to admit it didn't feel earned. To me that comes down to what a poor character Venom Snake was. Which was kind of unavoidable since he was supposed to be a stand in for the player.

That was the crux of what was wrong with Metal Gear V in my eyes. The Venom Snake concept could have worked if the game had allowed for more player freedom within the story. It didn't have to be anything huge. Something as simple as how you perform missions effecting his relationships with Ocelot, Kaz, and Quiet would have probably been enough.

Otherwise, I just don't think the core concept of Venom Snake works in a story; or it didn't for me anyway. It robbed the story of connection to the other Metal Gear games, and the connection to the Big Boss character that comes with that, and ultimately really didn't get anything in return.
 

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FFXIV? Anyone here play? I did for a while but stopped because i didn't really have a free company or anything to log in to play with.
 

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I still got an active account on my PS4, a german server though and haven't been able to lvl up mich past 20 for last couple weeks now...

Anyone gone back to Destiny with TKK? Have been playing pretty active for some time now, but while the story has risen in quality, that's hardly worth the 40 quid. Strikes are pretty nice so far though and often fun to play with a couple friends and/or forum members. Let's see if they make the Raid as hard as the previous ones again or if the change to the new system 2.0 has a bigger effect on not getting 1.K.O.ed by pretty much every mob. haha
 
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Re: The Games Hangout Thread -2015 Tokyo Game Show-

Square Enix's Project Setsuna has been revealed as Ikenie to Yuki no Setsuna at TGS


Looks nice
 
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Re: The Games Hangout Thread -2015 Tokyo Game Show-

@Schabrak I play on the PC D: Darn.

@Riki, that seems cool. I've been looking for a reason to get a PSVita...

Side note... does anyone actually own a PSVita and love it? I mean i'm not hating on it, just that it raised so much hype when it was being released.. after it is released... nothing? Maybe because i don't have one i don't pay attention to it's news waves but still.
 

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Re: The Games Hangout Thread -2015 Tokyo Game Show-

I love mine. It's one of my favorite things to play videogames on actually and everyone I've ever talked to that owns one seems to feel about the same.

The only problem it has is the lack of AAA games for it. There are some of those. Like Uncharted Golden Abyss, Killzone Mercenary, Persona 4 Golden, and Freedom Wars but I wouldn't buy one expecting a lot from that side of things as they are few and far between. If you like Indie games or Japanese games though you won't miss them much. There is a never ending flood of those on the Vita. And you can play the playstation classic stuff on it, unlike the PS4, making it the best way to play Psone and PS2 games; such as the greatest RPG of all time Suikoden 2. It also makes PS Plus even more of a great deal since you get 2 free vita games a month along with the 2 for PS4. Which really starts to add up after a while.

Watching anime, or anything else, on the Cruchyroll app, the Netfiix app, or the Hulu app looks great too since the size to pixel ratio of the screen is so high.
 

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Re: The Games Hangout Thread -2015 Tokyo Game Show-

If you had PS+ for some time now and see the Vita for 100€, it's probably one of the best deals you could get IMO. I still haven't bought one myself though and Gravity Rush is gonna get a PS4 version anyway, but it would be great to play my psone/ps2 games on it some time in the future as Jammin mentioned.

PC and PS4 servers are the same, aren't they, but I'm on a german/english centric server so that's another obstacle. :P
 

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Re: The Games Hangout Thread -2015 Tokyo Game Show-

I see. I might pick one up, i love JRPGs but never can find any good ones anymore. Have there been an announced i should look out for? Feel free to throw in some classics, preferably for the PC. I might wait til the christmas season video game rain to get my hands on my PSVita
 

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Re: The Games Hangout Thread -2015 Tokyo Game Show-

Suikoden 1 and Suikoden 2 are sure bets, if you haven't played them.

Those are all classic PS One RPGs that most people haven't played because they were released at around the same time as Final Fantasy VII and got completely overshadowed. It is essentially an RPG series geared toward an older audience with a more mature story while still maintaining the JRPG charm. And the gameplay holds up well since they both have some of the fastest battles ever. You can go through a random encounter in like 7 seconds; including loading times. Those are available on PS Vita and PS3. And I'm sure their are roms out there somewhere for PC.

If your into turn based RPG's at all. Disgaea is a good series to check out. Disgaea 1, 2, and 4 are all really good. And there is a good Vita version of 4.
 

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Re: The Games Hangout Thread -2015 Tokyo Game Show-

new Trailers for those who missed it:

Gravity Rush 2:

World of Final Fantasy:

The King of Fighters 14:

Killing Bites:

Danganronpa V3:
 
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Re: The Games Hangout Thread -2015 Tokyo Game Show-

More Trailers

One Piece Burning Blood:

New Final Fantasy game for mobile:

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Jojo's Bizarre Adventure Eyes of Heaven:

Street Fighter 5 - Karen:
 
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It's being rumored that Nintendo's next gen game system will be a hybrid of a console and a handheld.
 

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Man, I have been thinking to buy WiiU just to play some games, now I am not sure if I just have to wait for the next gen..
 

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If it has a Fire Emblem game on it I'll end up buying it. That's pretty much the deciding factor for me with Nintendo consoles.

Mario is fine, Zelda is fine, Metriod is fine. But those games aren't quite enough to make me go on spend money to pick up a console. Fire Emblem is totally that game for me; and maybe Advance Wars if they ever made another one of those.
 

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I've been playing Splatoon for these last few days with my friend's WiiU, it's immensely fun. I am thinking about playing Bayonetta and Fatal Frame too. Super Mario Maker or Smash Bros is just a bonus.

I am not sure how long WiiU would last before we get another Nintendo console, since it seems Nintendo is still developing some good titles for it.
 

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I have two free Legend of Zelda: Triforce Heroes demo codes so get them while you can~

LoZ: Triforce Heroes demo codes said:
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One more week before Fallout 4 is upon us.

This has been kind of a crazy good year for big games. Witcher 3 came out and delivered on everything it promised. Then Metal Gear Solid: The Phantom Pain came out and was amazing (even if the story wasn't quite what I hoped). Now we've got the biggest game of them all coming. Will it live up to the hype?

I personally think it will. I mean, it's a Bethesda game so we all know what that means. It's going to be buggy at times and the visuals aren't going to be at the cutting edge. But as long as they deliver the post apocalyptic sandbox it's going to be a blast. And the things they promised in their E3 demo is pretty much everything I ever wanted in a Fallout game.

  • More Companions Features (Better AI, more story, and even a little romance.)
  • Custom Base Building (Like in Rust but more fleshed out and with NPCs worked into it.)
  • Overhauled Crafting System (Based on materials more than objects this time.)

Those are probably the 3 things I always downloaded mods for the most in Skyrim and Fallout. To see them addressing all of those gets me majorly hyped.
 
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