Guys to be said bellion was a complete idiot lol. Who in his right mind attacks goddess territory in morning lol when goddess have a upper hand in fight against demon.
If he had attacked at night atleast he could have made mael useless.
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Mael said "what is this darkness which is greater than my SUN" something like it. Here mael says SUN so what if it was really his sun, i mean it might have been night time and just like chandler's true night it was his true sun something like that cuz its really funny of bellion to attack goddess territory at morning lol.
Whats your thought on this?
Wow great thank you for providing me such a nice theory now ill make it reality
And I think it maybe right it will make sense that he can fight even at night and will keep his position as AA of sun. Just like chandler .
But one thing there is a sun in the background too. Maybe its also a mini sun created by mael
Cause look at escanor just false image of sun in nighttime also awakens his powers so it can be that mael who is lot stronger can actually create a false sun to makeup at night .and it will also make sense how can mel make him retreat
I highly doubt Bellion would’ve been able to beat mael. Mael isn’t like escanor who is completely useless at night. He should be strong even when it’s night.
Also this needs to be said, If only the Surpreme Diety put stronger goddesses to watch the entrance to the goddess realm Bellion wouldn’t have been able to waltz in there like nothing.
Like seriously, how the fuck did they let bellion and later meliodas enter their realm so easily?
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Mael created a false sun .
Lets leave fanboyism and give honest answers
1.bellion is not a fool that he cant know what is a false sun
2. His grace is called sun thats why he must also be refering to his own grace sun not being able to remove that darkness.
Im not saying that the theory is wrong but its all having some chance and it can be anything hate to say it maybe even near to noon (which is not)
The darkness did not recede to his grace which is sun yeah it may also be that his grace created a false sun appearing in the sky but then we need to see that first when bellion attacked the two lance there was sun and nothing happened to bellion's darkness at that time and bellion even attacked with corroding blade of darkness attack on mael then he couldnt do anything.
Still it may also be that the false sun is only created to give small amt of power boosts to mael in night unlike its daytime counterpart and that false sun itself do sent attacks and creates daytime like scenario.
But then wont the residents there sleeping in night if there is always sun there
Both examples you gave were when the Four Archangels weren't actually trying to kill whoever they were facing but were instead playing around with their enemy, so because of this context in both scenarios it reduces the validity in your claim. Plus, if the AA's were fully attempting to kill every single demon in @Estarossa173 scenario, then its pretty much an accepted fact that the weaker individuals in such a scuffle with either die quick, or be a hindrance to the stronger people in battle due to needing to be constantly protected at every turn.
So realistically, only Zeldris/Meliodas/Chandler/Cusack are surviving in such a battle against the AA, everyone else will either be killed or allowed to escape through the top tier demons efforts of breaking the dimensional hold.
1) How are they gonna just gather a bunch of Demons in one spot along with the 4 Highest Demon (also Cusack & Chandler weren't really a part of the fighting) when the battlefield isn't one place?
2) Top Demons will protect the weaker ones from harm. Meliodas' massive orb of darkness is an example how Top Demons can apply darkness to shield their comrades
The already tried mass fodder elimination techniques anyway like Omega Ark but that won't work against the 10Cs
Literally the only statement that makes 0 sense is the Excalibur one
Mael was able to regulate 4 Commandments without having to take time to absorb them and his Estarossa personality had FC
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Tbh Goddess wank isn’t even wank, 98% of it is legit, a couple months ago we all thought OtakuFreak was a delusional Elizabeth obsessed psychopath because we didn’t know anything about the Goddess Clan, Graces, Arc Angels or how strong Elizabeth was because she had no feats
But overtime his theories are literally coming o fruition with each chapter lmao
Demon wank isn’t even Demon wank, it’s just Mel fanboys hyping Meliodas and Zeldris
Regardless at this point it’s evident Nakaba is willing to embarrass and contradict himself to show off somebody’s new power up
Both Demons and Goddesses have been brutally humiliated, the Demons have it worse though, literally almost everyone on their team either got fodderized or lost to Escanor, that’s literally 1 character
Honestly now that I think about it, I don’t understand why the goddess fanboys are complaining SO MUCH about the treatment of the goddesses. They got it better than the demons do.
Now, demon fans do have a lot of things to complain about. Zeldris and Meliodas are the only demons whose defeats were actually good. All the other demons were fodderized/humiliated. You name it: the rest of the 10C, the 6BK (from what I’ve gathered from summaries of the movie), and even the masters. And I wont be surprised if TOD also joins the list.
I’m confused is he not ? He’s the strongest member of the GC & correct me if I’m wrong but Mael literally said he purges Demons in place of the SD
Literally the only statement that makes 0 sense is the Excalibur one
Mael was able to regulate 4 Commandments without having to take time to absorb them and his Estarossa personality had FC
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Tbh Goddess wank isn’t even wank, 98% of it is legit, a couple months ago we all thought OtakuFreak was a delusional Elizabeth obsessed psychopath because we didn’t know anything about the Goddess Clan, Graces, Arc Angels or how strong Elizabeth was because she had no feats
But overtime his theories are literally coming o fruition with each chapter lmao
Demon wank isn’t even Demon wank, it’s just Mel fanboys hyping Meliodas and Zeldris
Regardless at this point it’s evident Nakaba is willing to embarrass and contradict himself to show off somebody’s new power up
Both Demons and Goddesses have been brutally humiliated, the Demons have it worse though, literally almost everyone on their team either got fodderized or lost to Escanor, that’s literally 1 character
Ryudoshiel say that too.
the thing is we don't know if that is true.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I recall everyone saying that Mael was the strongest Archangel not the strongest Goddess.
And I believe Ryudoshiel implyied that it was with Sun Grace and at some moment in the Day that Mael had a power that even hil couldn't compate with.
I think It's not wrong to assume that, Graceless, Ryudoshiel is a stronger Goddess than Mael.
Also it's like Meliodas' case. We all believed that he was the strongest Demon after his Father because of the hype everybody gave him and the fact that he was the Leader of the TC and Heir of the DC. But even if he could train to be the strongest, right now the Sinner is the 2nd to the Demon King (excluding 5C Mel).
Like you say we know very little about the GC so it's too soon to say that. Just because Mael is the strongest "Archangel" it doesn't make him the strongest Goddess after the SD.
Honestly now that I think about it, I don’t understand why the goddess fanboys are complaining SO MUCH about the treatment of the goddesses. They got it better than the demons do.
Now, demon fans do have a lot of things to complain about.
Ryudoshiel say that too.
the thing is we don't know if that is true.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I recall everyone saying that Mael was the strongest Archangel not the strongest Goddess.
And I believe Ryudoshiel implyied that it was with Sun Grace and at some moment in the Day that Mael had a power that even hil couldn't compate with.
I think It's not wrong to assume that, Graceless, Ryudoshiel is a stronger Goddess than Mael.
The Arc Angels are the strongest Goddesses, excluding the SD, Mael is the mightiest of all the Arc Angels
It was only implied Ludociel was the strongest before Mael became an Arc Angel, it was stated that he’s comparable to Mael and towards noon he feels hopless in terms of strength
Also it's like Meliodas' case. We all believed that he was the strongest Demon after his Father because of the hype everybody gave him and the fact that he was the Leader of the TC and Heir of the DC. But even if he could train to be the strongest, right now the Sinner is the 2nd to the Demon King (excluding 5C Mel).
See exactly, Meliodas was never stated to be the strongest or OP, it was simply stated that he was vicious, cruel, merciless and evil, the fandom just went ahead a blew it all of proportion because of mistranslations
Not too long ago it was implied Holy War Meliodas was weaker than the Masters
Like you say we know very little about the GC so it's too soon to say that. Just because Mael is the strongest "Archangel" it doesn't make him the strongest Goddess after the SD.
The Demon King’s debut was completely embarrassing
Zeldris had like 2 chapters to shine before Escanor + Ludociel gave him the typical Demon bitch slap
Im 50% sure TOD’s gonna get completely embarrassed
The Demons have is 10x worse the only thing keeping them relevant in these conversations is Meliodas and his constant power boosts
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The Arc Angels are the strongest Goddesses, excluding the SD, Mael is the mightiest of all the Arc Angels
It was only implied Ludociel was the strongest before Mael became an Arc Angel, it was stated that he’s comparable to Mael and towards noon he feels hopless in terms of strength
See exactly, Meliodas was never stated to be the strongest or OP, it was simply stated that he was vicious, cruel, merciless and evil, the fandom just went ahead a blew it all of proportion because of mistranslations
Not too long ago it was implied Holy War Meliodas was weaker than the Masters
Yeah it kinda does, the Arc Angels are the strongest in the Goddess Clan, and Mael so far was considered the Mightiest of the 4
I don’t understand, if he wasn’t why would they commit super suicide when Gowther tricked everyone into thinking he was dead ?
Lol, the Demons always pull out a power up or s new transformation at the last minute.
Zeldoris was slapping Ludo until an Human with Sunshine stop him lol.
The masters didn't get dominated by Goddesses but by Merlin but they still comes out on top with a new " boost " lmao.
See the pattern? The demons always come out of top, not the Goddesses, when they stay down, they stay down, not comes back with a new " boost " like the Demons.
Zeldoris was slapping Ludo until an Human with Sunshine stop him lol.
The masters didn't get dominated by Goddesses but by Merlin but they still comes out on top with a new " boost " lmao.
See the pattern? The demons always come out of top, not the Goddesses, when they stay down, they stay down, not comes back with a new " boost " like the Demons.
People saying that the Goddess Clan have received better representation or spotlight in the manga are incorrect, whilst its true that many of the Demons have been embarrassed or downright deleted it doesn't change the fact that:
-None of the Four Archangels have actually managed to win an impressive feat for themselves during battle, the only opponents they defeated were the Ten Commandments who are considered ''fodder'' in the long-run of the series and even then, Sariel & Tarmiel didn't do it effortlessly because Nakaba-sensei wanted to make them hold back for some reason.
-Sariel & Tarmiel reveal their blessings, only for the effectiveness of such powers to plummet down to levels of irrelevance when the dimension technique is to never be used again, or remind the audience that the Supreme Deity's power is apparently just generic water or wind generation, which fodder humans can do.
-Ludoshel's blessing is apparently just generic speed which is overshadowed by Zeldris innate magic power, so not only is it a bland blessing its also pretty trash since its outplayed by somebody else. Nakaba-sensei could've done literally anything else but generic speed, like time/space control but instead he opts out for the most bland power in manga. Oh look he moves fast, but it doesn't fucking matter because he can't even hurt his enemy or they're just faster anyhow.
-Elizabeth had to save the Four Archangels from the Indura, otherwise they would've died or been in some deep shit.
-Elizabeth literally gets no praise in comparison to Meliodas. Did Sariel, Tarmiel or Ludoshel apologise or thank Elizabeth for saving them against the Indura? Nah, they just observe and talk shit about her.
-The Supreme Deity is a complete and utter moron who seems to have no idea what to do in a military context, given how she decided to delete 2 AA soldiers on her side of the war, curse Elizabeth to be weaker in a next life, then proceed to do absolutely nothing in the current war when TOD + 5C-Meliodas exist. Many characters mention her, but do we ever get to see her? Of course not, but the Demon King gets spotlight in purgatory + battles for us. I don't even care if he got embarrassed at the end of the arc, it took 60 years for that to happen to him when he's weak & elderly.
-Mael teaches the audience on how to be a victim 101 whilst being a bland, boring & uninteresting character. Great, he's the strongest AA but besides the element of strength, his character is just ''I LoVe eLiZaBeTh''
-Elizabeth's character is starting to turn into the sideline healer during the Mael arc which is shitty considering how much potential she has to become the bad-ass soldier everyone wants her to be in this war.
The only things the Goddesses have going for them is
-The SD has yet to be embarassed fully
-Elizabeth actually gets character development and some positive spotlight.
-Sun Blessing is amazing
People saying that the Goddess Clan have received better representation or spotlight in the manga are incorrect, whilst its true that many of the Demons have been embarrassed or downright deleted it doesn't change the fact that:
-None of the Four Archangels have actually managed to win an impressive feat for themselves during battle, the only opponents they defeated were the Ten Commandments who are considered ''fodder'' in the long-run of the series and even then, Sariel & Tarmiel didn't do it effortlessly because Nakaba-sensei wanted to make them hold back for some reason.
-Sariel & Tarmiel reveal their blessings, only for the effectiveness of such powers to plummet down to levels of irrelevance when the dimension technique is to never be used again, or remind the audience that the Supreme Deity's power is apparently just generic water or wind generation, which fodder humans can do.
-Ludoshel's blessing is apparently just generic speed which is overshadowed by Zeldris innate magic power, so not only is it a bland blessing its also pretty trash since its outplayed by somebody else. Nakaba-sensei could've done literally anything else but generic speed, like time/space control but instead he opts out for the most bland power in manga. Oh look he moves fast, but it doesn't fucking matter because he can't even hurt his enemy or they're just faster anyhow.
-Elizabeth had to save the Four Archangels from the Indura, otherwise they would've died or been in some deep shit.
-Elizabeth literally gets no praise in comparison to Meliodas. Did Sariel, Tarmiel or Ludoshel apologise or thank Elizabeth for saving them against the Indura? Nah, they just observe and talk shit about her.
-The Supreme Deity is a complete and utter moron who seems to have no idea what to do in a military context, given how she decided to delete 2 AA soldiers on her side of the war, curse Elizabeth to be weaker in a next life, then proceed to do absolutely nothing in the current war when TOD + 5C-Meliodas exist. Many characters mention her, but do we ever get to see her? Of course not, but the Demon King gets spotlight in purgatory + battles for us. I don't even care if he got embarrassed at the end of the arc, it took 60 years for that to happen to him when he's weak & elderly.
-Mael teaches the audience on how to be a victim 101 whilst being a bland, boring & uninteresting character. Great, he's the strongest AA but besides the element of strength, his character is just ''I LoVe eLiZaBeTh''
-Elizabeth's character is starting to turn into the sideline healer during the Mael arc which is shitty considering how much potential she has to become the bad-ass soldier everyone wants her to be in this war.
The only things the Goddesses have going for them is
-The SD has yet to be embarassed fully
-Elizabeth actually gets character development and some positive spotlight.
-Sun Blessing is amazing
The worst thing about the Goddess Clan is that their strongest character get ignored so badly that it doesn't even have a little " dialogue " lol.
That is how much they are getting respect from Nakaba.
I wonder sometimes if she still exists lmao.
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And a name as pretentious as the " Goddess Clan ".
Any newbie who read the manga will expect: " Wow, Goddess sound godly, they have God like power like time or space shit. "
I have to admit by name alone, Goddess sound " stronger " than just a " Demon " lol and yet.
That is Demons who get random power up, transformation lol.
We are in difficulty, no problem we were actually playing around lol.
We are about to die, no problem, random Indura transformations.
We are about to be defeated, let's Gogeta with 1, 2 and boom, Fusion warrior.
We were outnumbered, no problem, let's randomly " absorb " more than one commandment because lol I can.
Daddy will beat me, oh no, let me use a Godly magic hakai power that I never showed before because, lol I was scared like a cat about it.XD
I can go on like that with the Demons, it is clear as day who Nakaba fanboys over here lol.
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If I was writing the Goddess Clan.
I will give them:
1) Innate power like Demons beside random Ark or light stuff.
2) Diversity and not generic or boring appearance.
3) An Original Goddess like the Sinner for the Goddess Clan.
4) Transformation power up for high tier Goddess like high tier Demons, beside sacrificing their hearts, it is their wings in exchange of far greater power.
5) Someone doing " True Day " to counter True night and boost the magic power of the Goddess during the day.
5) Nephelim mode which is get by absorbing more than one grace.
6) Elizabeth actually be an Erza type without the bullshit friendship power up of course.
If you get what I meant.
I’m confused is he not ? He’s the strongest member of the GC & correct me if I’m wrong but Mael literally said he purges Demons in place of the SD
Literally the only statement that makes 0 sense is the Excalibur one
Mael was able to regulate 4 Commandments without having to take time to absorb them and his Estarossa personality had FC
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Tbh Goddess wank isn’t even wank, 98% of it is legit, a couple months ago we all thought OtakuFreak was a delusional Elizabeth obsessed psychopath because we didn’t know anything about the Goddess Clan, Graces, Arc Angels or how strong Elizabeth was because she had no feats
But overtime his theories are literally coming o fruition with each chapter lmao
Demon wank isn’t even Demon wank, it’s just Mel fanboys hyping Meliodas and Zeldris
Regardless at this point it’s evident Nakaba is willing to embarrass and contradict himself to show off somebody’s new power up
Both Demons and Goddesses have been brutally humiliated, the Demons have it worse though, literally almost everyone on their team either got fodderized or lost to Escanor, that’s literally 1 character
How does saying you serve the leader of your clan mean you are the strongest after said leader?
Mael can master every power? Mael was in “control” of three commandments even though they partly controlled him? He put them under relative submission alleviating the complete berserker he was before but that wasn’t as great a degree of control as you seem to make it. Especially considering the fourth one you mentioned actually stripped him of relative sanity. The guy was, according to King, “trying to speak.” If the power was so regulated, why was he unable to speak? And why was his mind plagued with insane obsession?
How does it not ? Correct me if I’m mistaken but he implied he was the go to for purging demons in the absence of the SD, regardless Mael was the strongest in his clan
can master every power? Mael was in “control” of three commandments even though they partly controlled him? He put them under relative submission alleviating the complete berserker he was before but that wasn’t as great a degree of control as you seem to make it. Especially considering the fourth one you mentioned actually stripped him of relative sanity. The guy was, according to King, “trying to speak.” If the power was so regulated, why was he unable to speak? And why was his mind plagued with insane obsession?
It wasn’t until King damaged him until his mind started deteriorating, point is..... Mael regulated 3 Commandments without having to take the timbe to absorb them, he was able to harness the power of 4 Commandments and use their techniques despite the fact that the Darkness isn’t compatible with Goddess biology
Monspeet literally said anyone other than Meliodas absorbing more than 1 Commandments would be destroyed, yet Mael ate 4 and held on despite being an Angel
