Discussion The Kakin Battle Royale

[Demonspeed]

Still keeping my vote on Luzurus... Benjamin will probably lose a lot of soldiers very soon though.

 

[ShadowHeart]

As I previously mentioned, I'm fairly certain Tsered will develop some kind of tricky ability during this voyage. We have seen cases of normal people who had hatsu, such as Neon and arguably Komugi.

I may even venture a wild prediction that Tserred will be killed, then his ability will become even stronger after his death and will fuse with his nen beast...wrecking havoc on the whole ship...That would be something.



So that makes us three ^^ Personally I just went for the strongest and most menacing prince, because of how ironic it would be...

Don't know why but I got a hunch he'll die 1st.

 

[Demonspeed]

Remade the poll, this time without Momoze .

No one had voted for her.

 

[shionoro]

On a second thought, the way i framed the Data was suboptimal.
I will remake it in so far as that i will keep the relevant data (like who is siblings with who) in, but errase the field notable allies in favour of generally writing what they are up to at the moment for all living princes.

I will not errase Momoze just yet tho <: If she is not indicated to be alive in 2 chaps tho, I will.

 

[uberfayt]

Remade the poll, this time without Momoze .

No one had voted for her.

That's funny xD who else was not selected in the previous poll ? that could be the next prince to die ^^ I'm still keeping my vote though, Benjamin !

 

[shionoro]

I voted for Zhang Lei. He is pretty smart and Kurapika's ally. I think if he survives and gains power, things will run too smoothly for Kurapika.

 

[XXGenesis]

We have another week for some kind of confirmation. But it seems a Prince has dropped out already. Marayam has been assisnated by Presumably a nen clone by strangulation within under 6hrs of The Voyage....Things are definitely just beginning.

& I believe Kurapicka giving the ability of Nen to Kakin Prince's & guards. Is gonna be a double edge sword. I think it'll help with the Nen Beast but will Give firepower to his opponenets.

 

[Copy Panda]

so what are the odds of our prince taming his beast

 

[Demonspeed]

Is it even possible? By taming do you mean being able to give them orders or control them by themselves? I think it's possible to make them act in a certain way depending on their emotions but total control is probably impossible.

 

[XXGenesis]

Yup Yup. Nen Beast cannot be given commands to be followed. However speculating, I believe certain emotions & thoughts towards
Ppl, Individuals, or event or space...May will the Nen Beast into action.

 

[shionoro]

Finally got to change the things arround.
I wondered whether i should include the names of all bodyguards that were named with each prince, but that would be kind of a hassle because it isn't necessarily clear which prince controls a certain bodyguard, for it is actually the queens formally controlling them.

Only for Duazul, i am rather sure Camilla has control over those.
I added the different soldiers of benedict tho.

 

[XXGenesis]

Shionoro, don't waste your time with the bodyguards names. Too be honest I wouldn't even apperciate it XD. For the simple fact these bodyguards are for everybody XD. It's too much to know who's workin for

 

[Demonspeed]

I would like it with the names, but that's because I am a fan of these kind of things in general. Now that I think about it you could add the deaths to the first post too.

 

[ShadowHeart]

Starting to think Camilla and most of her guards know Nen.

 

[Demonspeed]

If Camilla knew Nen I think we would know it already. But some of her bodyguards are definitely Nen users.

Do you think Sevanchi might have abandoned Momoze on purpose to bait the killers? At first I thought she was a bit naive but the way she used two bodyguards(one to learn Nen and another to check if Kurapika was trustworthy) shows that she is cautious.

 

[ShadowHeart]

If Camilla knew Nen I think we would know it already. But some of her bodyguards are definitely Nen users.

Do you think Sevanchi might have abandoned Momoze on purpose to bait the killers? At first I thought she was a bit naive but the way she used two bodyguards(one to learn Nen and another to check if Kurapika was trustworthy) shows that she is cautious.

Well she's only had a little screen time tbf. Kinda strange that out of the 4 elder princes only the 3rd doesn't have any Nen users in his private army. Yes I think she used her own daughter to get rid of the elder queen guards.

 

[shionoro]

If Camilla knew Nen I think we would know it already. But some of her bodyguards are definitely Nen users.

Do you think Sevanchi might have abandoned Momoze on purpose to bait the killers? At first I thought she was a bit naive but the way she used two bodyguards(one to learn Nen and another to check if Kurapika was trustworthy) shows that she is cautious.

Yes I think she did.
Sevanchi, I think, is really cunning.
It is not a coincidence that Momoze was guarded by only spys from other Queens.
Sevanchi was able to get rid of all of those by Momoze's murder. Hell this was a huge gain for her even if she did kill Momoze herself, because all the spies are gone now and under investigation, even Benjamin's soldier, which usually would have been hard to get rid of.
She dragged every decent guard away from Momoze to Marayam.
She must have been aware about what she was doing.

Another thing is what you mentioned. Sevanchi might come off hysterically, but along with Oito, she is a queen not to be underestimated.

You know i am kinda tinfoilhead about Momoze's death, but I could even see Sevanchi being involved in faking it and putting up an act to fool others.
But we will possibly know that next chap.

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Well she's only had a little screen time tbf. Kinda strange that out of the 4 elder princes only the 3rd doesn't have any Nen users in his private army. Yes I think she used her own daughter to get rid of the elder queen guards.

Tserriednich was not aware he had nenusers in his army and still doesn't know about the second one besides Theta.

It is interesting that some princes have tighter control over their private armies and some do not.
At least in Tserriednich's case, he was not able to gain the complete trust of his bodyguards. Instead they play against him to an extent.
Benjamin however has the complete trust and loyality of his soldiers.

Zhang Lei seems like a person who got the complete trust of his guards either, mb he was just unlucky.
Same goes for Tubeppa.

But we will see about that. Possibly bodyguards are not supposed to tell their princes about their abilities and it is unheard of.
This might be an unwritten rule to not get kakin into turmoil before times of the succession war.

 

[uberfayt]

I agree that Sevanchi could've left the spies with an unprotected Momoze on purpose, but I highly doubt she anticipated that she could get rid of them in one go. I'm sure that if it wasn't for Oito discovering the crime, the assassin would've had enough time to erase evidences against him and point them towards somebody else.

 

[shionoro]

I agree that Sevanchi could've left the spies with an unprotected Momoze on purpose, but I highly doubt she anticipated that she could get rid of them in one go. I'm sure that if it wasn't for Oito discovering the crime, the assassin would've had enough time to erase evidences against him and point them towards somebody else.

I don't think so. Nen is a thing that is not known (very probably) to the ppl who handled taking the bodyguards into custody.
By that logic, taking the bodyguards that slept into custody would make no sense when you search for the murderer.

I think Sevanchi must have known they will take all of the bodyguards into custody, no matter how well evidence is hidden.
This might be to question them all or it might be because kakin is kind of a dictatorship and all of them failed their job.

I don't see how the strangler would have been able to frame another bodyguard directly.

 

[uberfayt]

I don't think so. Nen is a thing that is not known (very probably) to the ppl who handled taking the bodyguards into custody.
By that logic, taking the bodyguards that slept into custody would make no sense when you search for the murderer.

I think Sevanchi must have known they will take all of the bodyguards into custody, no matter how well evidence is hidden.
This might be to question them all or it might be because kakin is kind of a dictatorship and all of them failed their job.

I don't see how the strangler would have been able to frame another bodyguard directly.

But do you think the strangler would be stupid enough to let people suspect him ? I don't think so. I'm sure he acted when he was certain they won't be able to get to him, otherwise what's the point of doing it if he's gonna get caught...

Regardless of whether the royal guards know about nen or not, it makes sense to me they'll arrest all the people in Momoze's quarters since they would be all suspects. The crime was discovered early thx to Oito, that's why evidence that it was death by asphyxiation was still fresh, however if given enough time the assassin would erase all said evidences. How? well you've said yourself, by using nen. On top of that if the royal guards are unaware of the existence of nen, then it's even better.

Everybody knows it was made almost impossible for "normal" people to attempt murder on a prince, with all the measures taken. That's why I think all the assassins chosen can come up with unorthodox methods to do task and not get caught, and what better tools than supernatural powers which the majority ignore (i.e. nen).
So my point is that if an assassin made a move, they must have acted only when they could ensure they would be out of the suspect list.