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The Shi'ar are aliens but not mutants so I thought perhaps they wouldn't have rights to those characters on that basis. Of course, they could just avoid using any names and do basically the same thing though, I suppose.
I suppose there could be a moment in the movie where someone reports "There is an alien armada in orbit demanding we turn over the Phoenix... for the good of the galaxy... What is the Phoenix?... and how come they can speak English?"
 

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Ooo-wee, 17 films seen in total during September, most I've seen in a month so far.

Here's the last batch:

- First Reformed: I liked it, it was a drama, and yet I could never tell/predict where it was headed with every follow-up scene, so that was good and extremely engaging. Another thing that was captivating and very well done all the way through was Ethan Hawke's thoughts during the narration parts. A little too much religious stuff thrown in there, but that's just how the story goes. Also a couple of scenes were TOTALLY unexpected and that was a nice surprise. It's a film I recommend seeing going in blind as much as you can. The director made Taxi Driver, and he said he was surprised to see how there were many parallels between the two films when he was editing it.

- The Crescent: BRUH, I had been waiting to see this film for like 2 years, and yet it never premiered anywhere. I got fed up with it, looked it up online and found a version. Sadly, it wasn't the best quality, but I finally got to see it. It's one of those moody, strange horror flicks that a lot of people will just say "it was like watching paint dry" or something, but I liked it. I enjoyed it, and the very small child who's also a main character does a tremendous job, and that's a big + especially when we're talking about horror films. Here's the mindbending trailer:

- The Wounded Angel: another film I'd been waiting to see for years, after the director's first film(?) Harmony Lessons, which I highly, highly recommend. Just like the previous film I mentioned above, I had to look it up online and watch a very crappy version, but it was alright. This film follows an anthology-like format, and while there are instances where the director's touch can be seen and felt, ultimately this plays out almost like "short story after short story", and in the end I didn't really get if there was supposed to be a message or something bigger like that, so I was left somehow unsatisfied. The reason I finally decided to watch it is because I'll be seeing the director's 3rd film, "Ozen", at a film festival a couple of months from now and I wanted to have seen his 2nd film beforehand.

- I Think We're Alone Now: it was an alright watch, but I feel like the first half of the film was a lot better. In fact, I think the film would've been much better overall if it had stuck with just a couple of characters. Afterwards - as I had seen many people complaining about - it just goes through a lot of the typical post-apocalyptic cliché tropes, which was a damn, damn shame. An alright watch like I said, but I feel like there was a ton of wasted potential in there.

- Dogman: really liked it. Subtitles were horseshit but I managed to understand everything nonetheless. The main actor who's relatively unknown was superb, really amazing. Very well shot, too. Somewhat predictable in a sense, I guess, but the directing and acting is what would set this film apart from similar ones. It's the first film I've seen by Matteo Garrone, who also made Gomorrah.

- Hold The Dark: I really liked Blue Ruin and Green Room - and I highly recommend those films to those that haven't seen them yet - but I was somewhat cautious to not get overly optimistic about this film, considering it was an adaptation (all his other films were written by him) therefore not an original idea, and also some earlier critics that said that the ending just wasn't satisfying. It was an alright watch, but unfortunately they were right, in the end it's just not satisfying at all even if you do get all the pieces and info you need to piece everything together. A lot of wasted potential here too, but I guess it was bound to happen considering the director is known for coming up with his own stories and directing the shit out of them... with a story and script that wasn't his own it's no wonder that some things just fell through.

An alright watch, but if you go into this film expecting a full resolution and explanation, you might want to skip it. Some scenes really surprised me and made me go "what the shit what the flying fuck is going on?!", but if there's no real meaning or reason to them it just leaves you thinking "so what was all that for?" when the movie is over.

Like, I get it that there MIGHT be an explanation for everything, but the film could've done a lot better job in conveying them.

I don't regret watching it, either, but it's a shame that this was a step down after his previous films... The silver lining here is that I have his True Detective (Season 3) episodes to look forward to.
 

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- Hold The Dark: I really liked Blue Ruin and Green Room - and I highly recommend those films to those that haven't seen them yet - but I was somewhat cautious to not get overly optimistic about this film, considering it was an adaptation (all his other films were written by him) therefore not an original idea, and also some earlier critics that said that the ending just wasn't satisfying. It was an alright watch, but unfortunately they were right, in the end it's just not satisfying at all even if you do get all the pieces and info you need to piece everything together. A lot of wasted potential here too, but I guess it was bound to happen considering the director is known for coming up with his own stories and directing the shit out of them... with a story and script that wasn't his own it's no wonder that some things just fell through.

An alright watch, but if you go into this film expecting a full resolution and explanation, you might want to skip it. Some scenes really surprised me and made me go "what the shit what the flying fuck is going on?!", but if there's no real meaning or reason to them it just leaves you thinking "so what was all that for?" when the movie is over.

Like, I get it that there MIGHT be an explanation for everything, but the film could've done a lot better job in conveying them.

I don't regret watching it, either, but it's a shame that this was a step down after his previous films... The silver lining here is that I have his True Detective (Season 3) episodes to look forward to.
Agreed with most everything you said. Except I would say I do regret watching it, honestly. It seemed like a well executed bad idea to me. It just felt incoherent. At first I thought it was going to lean into the mysticism aspect but it never actually did. Instead it occupied this space between mystic horror and psychological drama. And the end result was just.. poor. It's something that on the surface looks like a good movie but when you get down everything about characters and story it just falls to pieces.

The basic cause and effect of what characters are doing and why just doesn't fit together half the time. It also featured one of the dumbest shootouts I've seen.. ever. And the ending can barely even be called that.

So, yeah, I'd call Hold The Dark just a bad movie.
 

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Agreed with most everything you said. Except I would say I do regret watching it, honestly. It seemed like a well executed bad idea to me. It just felt incoherent. At first I thought it was going to lean into the mysticism aspect but it never actually did. Instead it occupied this space between mystic horror and psychological drama. And the end result was just.. poor. It's something that on the surface looks like a good movie but when you get down everything about characters and story it just falls to pieces.

The basic cause and effect of what characters are doing and why just doesn't fit together half the time. It also featured one of the dumbest shootouts I've seen.. ever. And the ending can barely even be called that.

So, yeah, I'd call Hold The Dark just a bad movie.
I mean, wasn't the "main character" also barely in the movie? It's almost like he wasn't there, at all. Made me curious about the book but yeah, most of it just didn't land with me.

The violence was very similar to his other films in that when they happen, they're extremely raw and realistic to an extent, but they also had a reason for being... Here it's just... there, I guess.
 

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I mean, wasn't the "main character" also barely in the movie? It's almost like he wasn't there, at all. Made me curious about the book but yeah, most of it just didn't land with me.

The violence was very similar to his other films in that when they happen, they're extremely raw and realistic to an extent, but they also had a reason for being... Here it's just... there, I guess.
The main character barely even had a purpose in the movie. Which is a shame because I feel like if it actually was the "people possessed by wolf spirits and a wolf behaviorist comes and helps the police put a stop to it." That's might be a decent movie.

That gunfight though...
It was extra violent and meaningless but there is something extra stupid about a guy on a fixed location machine gun firing at like 10 policemen mostly with assault rifles at a position that makes him essentially a sitting duck and yet he's somehow treated like an unstoppable threat. You can even see at the end of the scene the bullet holes all through the walls so it was clearly plot armor keeping him alive. He should have dead like 3 seconds into that gunfight. Instead it's 10 minutes of him shooting people while the police miraculously avoid shooting his dumb ass.

And why he's killing police in the first place and doesn't even make sense.
 

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That gunfight though...
It was extra violent and meaningless but there is something extra stupid about a guy on a fixed location machine gun firing at like 10 policemen mostly with assault rifles at a position that makes him essentially a sitting duck and yet he's somehow treated like an unstoppable threat. You can even see at the end of the scene the bullet holes all through the walls so it was clearly plot armor keeping him alive. He should have dead like 3 seconds into that gunfight. Instead it's 10 minutes of him shooting people while the police miraculously avoid shooting his dumb ass.

And why he's killing police in the first place and doesn't even make sense.
To be fair though, the guy had been shot multiple times before he's killed by the cop, I'm guessing he just kept going at it because of the adrenaline or something. They also made it a point to say that most of the cops had never been in a shootout, but that still doesn't excuse them for being gunned down just like that, at least get to cover or something, don't just stand there while shooting at the guy. I was half expecing the main character to pick up a rifle and be the one to take him down, but that might've been somewhat problematic down the road, like how could he just pick up the weapon and kill someone, something he probably never did in his life... I mean sure, it was a life or death scenario, but yeah.
 

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To be fair though, the guy had been shot multiple times before he's killed by the cop, I'm guessing he just kept going at it because of the adrenaline or something. They also made it a point to say that most of the cops had never been in a shootout, but that still doesn't excuse them for being gunned down just like that, at least get to cover or something, don't just stand there while shooting at the guy. I was half expecing the main character to pick up a rifle and be the one to take him down, but that might've been somewhat problematic down the road, like how could he just pick up the weapon and kill someone, something he probably never did in his life... I mean sure, it was a life or death scenario, but yeah.
It's just a highly problematic scene.

I don't care how green they are the guy was 20 yards away silhouetted in a window. Nobody misses that shot. It would be functionally impossible to miss it with a shotgun too. Somebody fires into that window at that range and you can't not hit the guy. Then there is the fact that they are all directly in front of that window. I mean, the gun is bolted down he can't move it. Like that young cop that runs across the open for no reason. He could have just gone around the other way and been 100% safe. And there are a lot of elements in that gunfight that play out like that.

Some suspension of disbelief is to be expected but the execution of that scene was absolutely ludicrous, IMO.
 
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The Foreigner
Really good. Never seen Jackie Chan in something so gritty
 

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Not sure if I've asked about/discussed this already, but is anyone else keeping track of their "movie statistics"?

I decided to start doing so from this year onwards, currently I'm keeping track of:
- which movies I've seen;
- how much I paid for it (if I did at all);
- where I've seen them (as in, the physical location);
- when I saw them;
- running time.

When the year is over, I'll make a bunch of different charts detailing stuff like what was the most spoken language in the films I saw, where I saw films the most (not just at the theater/at home, but also the venue itself), genre, etc...

I think you get the idea. I still have to list all those possible things I can do with it (suggestions are welcome) but yeah, something like that.

I also tried to write an "essay"/thoughts on each film I saw, but I gave up after the first two ("Thelma" and "The Killing of a Sacred Deer") for a couple of reasons; I was seeing way too many films back when all this started and I didn't have the time to properly collect my thoughts on a single film, and then there were some films where there simply wasn't much to talk about, but I think I'll go back and do something just like the guy on reddit (that inspired me to do this) did, which was just writing a sentence or two.

So far I've spent 174,20 euros on 40 theater showings, I think :/
Yikes.

Also, if the stars align tomorrow, I might get to see Mandy again in theaters.

As for upcoming films (in theaters) I might be seeing:
- First Man (maybe);
- Bad Time at the El Royale (likely);
- Overlord (maybe);
- The Girl in the Spider's Web (ehhh I'll wait for some early reviews before I make up my mind).
 

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I used to keep a log of what I'd seen and how many times I watched it. Tried finding it with no luck. The $$ part of your investigation is pretty cool tho.

I have given IMDB a go recently but it's hard to remember what you seen. I don't watch enough movies anymore to continue logging in either.

Recent watches: The Nice Guys (2016), Phoenix (2014). Had a lot of fun with The Nice Guys. Phoenix might make my top 10 of the decade, it's damn near perfect. Re-watched it coz of the Dark Phoenix talk lol.
 

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I never bothered keeping track of anything. I probably go to 15-20 movies a year in a theater.

Only two or so years ago they put in a super nice new theater about a half hour from where I live. It's a hilariously named AMC Big D theater (what were they thinking?) Regardless it's got a huge screen that's a bit better than an ordinary one (though not IMAX good), stadium seating, high back leather reclining seats. It's just a very nice place to see a movie. So that's generally where i go to see everything.

In addition to that I tend to watch and rewatch a lot of movies on the movie channels and streaming. I'll turn something on while I'm cooking or whatever and just get hooked. I have no idea how many of those I watch. Many for sure.
 

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I think I'm like Jammin in this instance; I don't know if I go to the cinema to watch that many films anymore but it is a lot. I would be curious but it just sounds too tedious and I know I'd drop it before too long.

I used to go to the cinema about every week and watch 2 films per day with my best friend but that was years ago and I had a lot of time. Fast forward to quite recently, I've been getting early screening tickets for free, so I've been going nearly as frequently as before.

I rewatch a ton of stuff on tv when its on too.
 

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Regardless it's got a huge screen that's a bit better than an ordinary one (though not IMAX good)
Don't feel too bad. The majority of theaters that advertise IMAX and charge IMAX prices are only Digital IMAX and not the genuine 70mm article, unfortunately...

It's still nice but the fact that they charge the same prices for Liemax that they do for the real stuff does kind of suck.
 

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Don't feel too bad. The majority of theaters that advertise IMAX and charge IMAX prices are only Digital IMAX and not the genuine 70mm article, unfortunately...

It's still nice but the fact that they charge the same prices for Liemax that they do for the real stuff does kind of suck.
I don't mind either way because the few times I've seen IMAX stuff I got mildly motion sick. Especially on big fast moving panning shots, I start to look a little greenish. 3D does the same thing. My stomach is not a fan.
 

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Watched the new 4K restoration of Heathers last night. One of my better halves favourite movies, and something I'd definitely watch but for some reason had never got around to it. 7/10.
 

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So I saw Apostle last night and unfortunately it was extremely underwhelming and disappointing... The director made the two Raid films which are incredible, and the cast in this was also stellar, but everything just went downhill near the half of the film.


That, and the editing was also horrendous, which became signifcantly noticeable in the second half as well.

It's a damn shame, but I really can't recommend this. I've seen people saying they loved it and that's fine, but man, what a waste. I even saw the ending coming from a mile away and ugh.

Now I'm looking forward to The Night Comes For Us:


Coincidentally, they're saying it's almost like "The Raid 3", given that it has a lot of actors from those movies, but just from the look of it I can tell that it's gonna be similar to Headshot (same director, same actor from The Raid) and less like The Raid, which isn't really a good thing... but if it's better than Headshot I'll be satisfied.
 

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Not sure if the trailer looks bad or I'm just very skeptical... since X-Men: Apocalypse is really bad :fail

Is it that hard to film the Dark Phoenix Saga? :grumble

Not to mention this is Simon Kinberg's directorial debut.
tbh only interested in this movie because Sophie Turner is super attractive.

You don't like J-Law as Mystique?
She's annoying.



Hotel Artemis was a super fun movie. Venom was good, but it had confusing moments.
 

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Hmmmm..... I saw First Man yesterday. It's a good movie. It is. However I kept thinking two things...
1) Why didn't they get some of the actors from Apollo 13 to reprise their roles since this is at an earlier time than Apollo 13 was... and at least some of them were there for both missions. It would have added so much to continuity.
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2) Apollo 13 was a much better movie.

First Man seemed to spend so much attention to character development whereas Apollo 13 did less of that and more on the events. I can't really say that either is right or wrong. I can only say I definitely enjoyed Apollo 13 better. I think maybe it is Ryan Gosling's character. He might be a good actor but I didn't really like his presentation of Neil Armstrong. Just my 2cents. I hope the rest of you enjoyed it more.
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Saw “Bad Times at the El Royale”

Very Entertaining! If you’ve seen the preview you already know it is a hotel right on the border between California and Nevada. Everyone in this movie has an agenda and no one is what they appear to be... Not even the hotel is what it appears to be. :XD
I’d give this movie a solid 8/10. It’s not a mystery story like I thought initially... Picture taking several random characters from typical 50’s mobster/crime flicks and dropping them all in this same place. Now stand back to watch how the situation blows up.
 

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However I kept thinking two things...

1) Why didn't they get some of the actors from Apollo 13 to reprise their roles since this is at an earlier time than Apollo 13 was... and at least some of them were there for both missions. It would have added so much to continuity.
This could have never worked for a LOT of reasons:

1) Apollo 13 came out 23 years ago, and you're saying the actors could've been in there as well since it's set before Apollo 13... but there's absolutely no way any of the actors would've looked younger, since First Man happens before. So instead of adding continuity, it would just break it for no real reason;

2) Even if that happened, it would've been way too distracting and pointless;

3) But that wouldn't have happened regardless because First Man is a book adaptation, it's not like they were going for a "shared universe" kind of thing, and trying to do so 20+ years after the first movie sounds purposeless...

4) Even though Universal is the distributor, I'm fairly certain that the people who hold the rights for each movie and its components are different. It would've been a nightmare for no real reason.

First Man seemed to spend so much attention to character development whereas Apollo 13 did less of that and more on the events.
But that's the whole point, right? First Man is all about the character/human side of Armstrong (hence character study/development), whereas Apollo 13 is about an event (something goes wrong with the ship and they have to get back), not its characters.

With that being said, I will probably see First Man and then Bad Times on Monday, since they're doing a discount thing around here. If I understood correctly, I'll end up paying 5 euros for the two films instead of 14, so that's a pretty sweet deal.

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Yesterday there was a showing of Heat in theaters, so I went to see it since I never saw the whole film.

I saw a ton of scenes on youtube years ago, but I had never seen the whole thing.

When I checked IMDb I was surprised to find out that the film was 2h50 long, I had no idea.

I enjoyed it, it definitely had some very, very good moments and shots - and now I understand where Payday and its OST got their inspiration from - but I wouldn't say it's the masterpiece some make it out to be.

Sure, the film came out in 1995 and I can totally see how this must've been a hit back then, but still.

Not that the film aged badly, but I don't know.

Has anyone else seen it?

Something's that's always thrown around is how it's the most realistic heist film, with one of the most realistic firefights in cinema ever, which I will post below if you don't feel like watching the film.

Skip to 4:30 for when things go wrong.
 

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Yea, the shootout is pretty intense in Heat. There was that Ben Affleck movie that felt like a big rip-off of it too.

I wasn't aware it was considered a masterpiece, but then again that word gets thrown around a bit. It's a great movie for sure though and I'm aware it's highly rated among movie goers. I loved it when I was a teen. I rewatched it recently and wasn't as impressed, I found that with a few films of that era. Heat made me kinda sad seeing Val Kilmer...

Watched Lethal Weapon and White Ribbon this week. To top it off, Lethal Weapon 2 + 3; and maybe Cache.
 
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