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I loved Hellboy for Del Toros vision. It looked brilliant, managed to carry the kinda unique mood the artstyle gives to the comics, while still being completly new, Del Toros own.

Scott Pilgrim and Kick-Ass were hilarious films. Especially enjoyed Kick-Ass. It was pretty damn intense.

Watchmen, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen and V for Vendetta are all comics by the same author, Alan Moore. Other two are good films, but the League was horrible and it shares practically nothing in common with the comic. And all three are better in comic form. Though V for Vendetta is close.

Sin City and 300 are also by the same comic artis, Frank Miller. For the films, both look very good. Sin City had more depth to it though and was a better film. 300 was hardly more than one long action scene.

History of Violence is in my opinion slightly underrated. The finale felt bit silly, but otherwise it was a great film. The Crow was brilliant for something of it's time, but in my opinion sligtly overrated. Still good though.


On the topic of comicfilms, I wonder if all hope is lost about Blacksad and Bone animation films. Both are excellent comics, in my all-time top 10, and that's including manga. For both rights were sold and plans made, but there has been no news on neither since 2008. I guess those were burn by the production hell.

(Bone is about 3 "bone" creatures, who are fugitives from Bonevillage. They end up In The Valley, were rat creatures terrorize the folk and The Red Dragon has been spotted. Starts as a comedy and developes into a fantasy epic.

Blacksad is a spanish comic about a private detective Blacksad in film noir style set in late 50's US. The twist is, that all characters are anthropomorphic animals. The characters race usually reflects his/her personality and part in the story. For example the police are mostly canids, while the underground people are reptilians.

Bit of promo for two great comics here :amuse)
 
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err, my bad, I "meant" micheal keaton, wrong guy with val kilmer, lol.

ya I meant the burton one, 1989 one, the one with jack nick as joker :D

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what really killed batman... forget jim carrey as the riddler... ARNOLD as mr. freeze... UGHN, though I don't know who's worse arnold as mr. freeze or robin... as robin is just as bad/annoying as is arnold as mr freeze, ughn...

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Robin is THEE worst sidekick character ever invented!

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the corny of corny of batmans, the poison ivy one (batman forever?), arnold as mr freeze, jim carrey as riddler, and any otehr I'm missing... they really insult me, as batman is a very serious and sophisticated comic/story... and they make these CORNY "things" !!! ARGH!!!

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but then they finally rectified these with Batman Begins and Dark Knight, as batman should be told hehe :D DARK :D
 
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The third Pirates movie was awful. I bored myself completely and if a cinema would have had a remote control, I would have turned off the movie and screen all together. It didn't make sense, it was even so awful that for some reason I started to like the also disappointing second pirates movie.

I haven't watched the fourth Pirates movie and I hear mixed reviews about it. What triggers my interest is the criticism that the movie has less jokes and that there's a darker/more serious story in it. This is definitely good because I really don't want impossible action sequences which are hurting your eyes more. Give me the basics from the first movie back, please
 
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No, I don't think the 4th was anymore serious or darker. Maybe a tiny bit, but not really significantly. The impossible action sequences are still there, and the jokes. And the most of them aren't even funny. The only good things in it were visuals/cgi and Ian McShane.

I doubt they will ever be able to bring back what the first film had.
 

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And if you had to rate it on /10, Ust? Do you place it all behind or was it at least more appealing that the second and/or third movie?
 

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I'd say it's better than the 2nd and 3rd, just don't expect much from it though.

it was really simple and short and a bit dull, though entertaining/enjoyable enough to watch through it, without boredom.

it wasn't awful, but it wasn't good either. kinda mediocre. it's watchable, but don't expect to be "Wowwed" by anything in it. but, at least it's not confusing/weird like the 3rd, lol.
 
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Well, it's bit hard to judge since ithas been awhile since I saw the first three. And I'm not a big fan of number ratings either. I'd say 5/10 and bit under Deadman's Chest and At the World's End. So yeah, it is worst of the bunch. But not by much, those other two are pretty bad also.

@hege: short wouldn't be an adjective I've use about it. It is about 2 and half hours afterall.:neutral
 
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@HegemonKhan: Yeah, there's a reason Batman & Robin is often called one of the worst movies ever... But I always watch that movie "sarcastically", almost as a parody. I mean seriously, some of the jokes in that one would make the 60's Batman TV show with Adam West look serious. All those Mr. Freeze puns. :faint

The Adam West one (I've only seen a few episodes and own the movie from 1966, mind you), I really view as a parody. There's no way you can get mad at something so silly.. I mean, no one is gonna take that seriously, right? Batman & Robin is actually also quite funny if you turn off geek-mode and allow yourself to laugh at its terribleness. :p

Concerning the 4th Pirates movie... I'm watching it solely because Ian McShane is in it. The trailer alone included too many unfunny jokes and had too much of a Disneyfied vibe for me to have any high expectations about it at all. Seriously, they should just let Johnny add his quirkiness to his character himself like in the first movie instead of trying to write the character that way. That, Orlando Bloom and Keira Knightley were the things I disliked about #2 and #3. So while they got rid of some of the negative factor, there's still the worst part left...

Still, Ian Mcfuckin'Shane is awesome. I'll watch it.
 

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Ustegius said:
- V for Vendetta
- Sin City
- Kick-Ass
- Scott Pilgrim vs. the world
- A History of Violence
- Watchmen
- Hellboy I&II
- The Crow
- Burtons Batmans
- 300
- Road to Perdition

That is suprisingly many.
If you look back in the history, there are many comic book films, though there were usually too much cliche <Batman form 60s anyone? xd> Though, there are rare instances when I really LOVED the old movie compared to the newest incarnations, like The Punisher with Dolph Lundgren and compare it to The Punisher movie with Jane; even the "newest" Punshier movie was better because there were freakin' blood and that stuff. How the hell somebody could make The Punisher movie and not showing any real violence is beyond me.

About Robin: I don't think its the worst sidekick evern invented. There's so much history behind it, and so much character "played" Robin. The thing is: if it means for film industry, its usually a disaster :p
 

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well, short in its simplicity of scenes, story, plot, but you're right that actual run time, is not short.

sorry for the confusion, I couldn't think of a better word or way to have worded it when I was typing it in. ya, short isn't the best word for what I meant.

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well, I just don't personally like Robin, never did, batman, doesn't need a sidekick, he works alone :D

Robin was just too annoying and I hate his outfit and he's always corny or just downright annoying.

its a really old pet peeve of mine, of not liking Robin, lol
 
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Robin as a character himself isn't the worst sidekick ever. The 90's movies incarnation of him is, for sure, but in other versions of Batman he's not that bad. I can't say he's ever been a favorite character of mine, but like juUnior said, he has a pretty well developed backstory and when he gets the right type of character development instead of just going "whiny -> whiny and annoying -> whiny and annoying little bitch", he can actually provide to the story.

In the graphic novel The Dark Knight Returns where Bruce Wayne is like 60-something and Dick Grayson isn't Robin anymore, a 13-year-old girl takes on the role as Robin... I probably like that character more than I ever liked any of the movie incarnations of the character..

With all this talk of Batman movies recently, I have to mention this:

The first picture of Tom Hardy as Bane from the upcoming The Dark Knight Rises. Looks awesoooooooooooooooooooooooome!
 

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Btw, The Dark Knight Returns incarnation of Robin is maybe my favorite. Haven't read too much Batman though.

I also saw that first look on Bane just yesterday. Looks pretty badass. That picture makes it pretty sure that his backstory (jail years) will be there. Dark room with only hinge of light far away. Okay, pretty obvious, but still. It's the only observation I think can be done based on that.
 

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HegemonKhan said:
Robin was just too annoying and I hate his outfit and he's always corny or just downright annoying.
I agree that Batman works alone <or it should be that way xd>.

About Robin: ok, so we're dealing with personal preferences here. I think he's not "always" corny, and it depend on which Robin we're talking about. But I think its a discussion for comic book thread rather than here. Just to make myself clear: I don't want to see any Robin in Nolan's third movie <I know, I know, it isn't supposed to be, but to be clear xd>

About the first pic from TDKR: when I looked at it yesterday or sth like that - I'm pretty much impressed though I would like to see more fully his mask as I'm not entirely speechless about it. Still, it doesn't beat the pic of the Joker from TDK when I first saw it - it just blown me away. I'm not saying its not awesome, but it didn't make so much impact on me. Still, Hardy just needs to look like in Bronson movie and its gooooood <3
 

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I know Thor's out for a long time. But i just want to say that i felt that it was an above average movie. I never read Thor comics and i don't think i will start anytime soon.The humour was probably the only thing that elevate it from average to 'above average'. The story wasn't bad but it wasn't exactly impressive. I nearly LOLed when Thor talked about him being an ally to the SHIELD agent; i found the Thor's turn in behaviour kinda sudden, i know its a 2 hour movie but still...

The action was average. I found the fights kinda boring. 1 thing i noticed is that most of the fights in comic book movies are usually boring. There are lots of potential for such fights but most of them the movies just fail to tap into the potential. Maybe they should start learning from anime/manga fights.

Anyway , with the latest trailers out there. I would say that either GL or X-men would be the no. 1 comic book movie this year. But i could be wrong though.
 

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Saw Hangover Part II a while ago :zomg I loved it. Such a laugh! I wouldn't say it was better than the first one but similarly different. The composition of the story was all the same but with so many differences that made it hilarious. Alan is as funny as you'd expect him to be and MUCH MORE :faint but Stuart got funnier! :rofl And a great cameo at the end!
I'd give it a 8/10
 

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Saw Thor yesterday. I really enjoyed it, even though I never followed the comic really. It look beautiful, and is another example of when movie makers treat a franchise seriously (getting the right director, cast), it makes for a good movie. Not saying it was a masterpiece, but it turned out MUCH BETTER than I ever thought a movie about Thor could be.

Amongst the comic movies coming out this summer, I think Captain America might end up being the best. Green Lantern looks much better than when the first trailer was released on the web. X-Men: First Class is a dark horse. The trailer looked amazing, but rebooting the series is always a risk.
 

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For me, I'm leaning towards the Green Lantern turning out to be more of a disappointment, than in being a good/great movie, and instead I'm going to put my hopes in X-men, being a good/great movie. I can not yet guess whether Captain America will be good or not, with what little I've seen of it, but it does look promising of what I've seen, but that definately does not mean it will be promising, as all too often, American movies, as nowadays have their very best scenes as the trailor, while you find out that the rest of the movie, the movie itself, is totally awful, sighs.
 

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Drive Angry was a really waste of time. Nothing new, the plot sucked, so so acting.
 

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I didn't comment on Fast Five - I mean, srsly, it was a really good movie, I like it xD But I'm also real subjective here, as I like this franchise. Its the fifth movie in the series and I still love it. Not to mention the cast from the previous movies appearing in this one <like I always loved to see Don and Roman in one movie :p> Not to mention that Hobbs is a good addition xD To "tanks" fighting is really cool XD Really entertaining movie, and like always there is at least one scene with "car racing party" XD Awesome, I recommend it every fan of Fast & Furious series.
 

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Fast 5 was entertaining, but there's not much else to it, but definately as good as the other ones, but I still liked the Tokyo Drift one the best, hehe. For an action series, Fast 5, was just as good as the others, and wasn't a let down, you'll be entertained.

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Drive Angry was terrible as well, and what's with the lead actress having no sex scenes... but the minor characters do... lol. A few good sex+naked scenes, otherwise totally horrible movie.
 
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