The "New" Blackbeard Pirates Discussion Thread.

[Moses911]

Well we all know that blackbeard isn't just at marineford to see whitebeard off to the underworld. THe question is, just how much pwnage can we expect from that crew? I mean just look at what they're up against. This is my biggest problem with oda, he hates killing people, maybe its because he's afraid that he could use them later...i dont know. but its ridiculous that the marines have lost mayber 40,000 men but no admirals or shicibukai. THe pirates came with mayber 30,000 and lost just about 90% of their forces and yet not a single commander has been killed. Hell whitebeard got a magma facial but he's still standing. What can the blackbeard pirates possibly do when the marines have barely lost any important people?

 

[Bugzee]

Maybe, the guy who we suspect to have the tunneling ability is actually Roche Tomson?? He was listed as a level 5 prisoner?? Just a thought....

 

[kkck]

I still wonder how exactly BB made the preparations for his crew. I mean, he quit from WB's crew, gathered his first original members and then he suddenly traveled to ID and gathered a bunch of misfits who willingly joined him? I get the impression that while BB was on WB's crew he made contact with all of the people currently on his crew and through some sort of agreement he managed to get them on his crew.

 

[Gcat88]

AND he probably already knew those guys that were in ID since they hated WB.

 

[urlaub]

it has been predicted and would be shurely fun. You see BB rawing on a lonely little boat and then suddenly, San Juan pops out. Would be like hiding the marine HQ building. Maybe BB took ID with him?

 

[modoki]

first post updated with new info

 

[THM Nindo]

Hey, I just thought of something...
I know we already discussed San Juan possibly being a boat, or a Giant that ate a Boat Devil Fruit, or somethings like that.

But, I just thought, that maybe, he was simply their boat...
I mean... the hop on his back and he swim through the ocean...

If he's that big, that shouldn't be a problem for him...

 

[Schabrak]

But, I just thought, that maybe, he was simply their boat...
I mean... the hop on his back and he swim through the ocean...

Don't want to sadden you, but that was said dozen of times already, so not something new to discuss. Coming with that kind of idea this late must be a joke.

 

[Marche]

San Juan could not transform in boat, because only recently Vegapunk knew as doing that, and SJ for several years (perhaps for decades) was imprisoned in ID.
Perhaps he could do "the boat" with his "normal" state, but we know by this chapter than this could not happened.
In fact http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/576/04/ that is clearly a ship.
I was thinking than BB with his DF could suck SJ and also the other nakama, excepted for Pizarro.
So Pizarro could make a tunnel under the sea and evade by ID, but this image annuls this possibility.
Perhaps anyways SJ (only SJ) could be sucked by BB dark, so the other member of BB crew could embark on the ship without problems.

 

[THM Nindo]

Don't want to sadden you, but that was said dozen of times already, so not something new to discuss. Coming with that kind of idea this late must be a joke.

AH, okay...
I haven't read the whole thread.

I thought the general idea was that he was an actual boat like this : http://gadgetscrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/radio-control-pirate-ship-boat.jpg

Not that it's impossible for him to have eaten a DF fruit, but I thought the possibiity that they were simply on him as he swim might be more possible.
But, if it was already discussed, then... too bad.

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San Juan could not transform in boat, because only recently Vegapunk knew as doing that, and SJ for several years (perhaps for decades) was imprisoned in ID.
Perhaps he could do "the boat" with his "normal" state, but we know by this chapter than this could not happened.
In fact http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/576/04/ that is clearly a ship.
I was thinking than BB with his DF could suck SJ and also the other nakama, excepted for Pizarro.
So Pizarro could make a tunnel under the sea and evade by ID, but this image annuls this possibility.
Perhaps anyways SJ (only SJ) could be sucked by BB dark, so the other member of BB crew could embark on the ship without problems.

You're totally right...
It seems that in the end, they really did came on a marine ship...

Which makes me wonder how the fuck did someone as big as him stayed unnoticed?!
Either he was swimming under the ship, or he has the power to shrink.

 

[Marche]

AH, okay...
I haven't read the whole thread.

I thought the general idea was that he was an actual boat like this : http://gadgetscrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/radio-control-pirate-ship-boat.jpg

Not that it's impossible for him to have eaten a DF fruit, but I thought the possibiity that they were simply on him as he swim might be more possible.
But, if it was already discussed, then... too bad.
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You're totally right...
It seems that in the end, they really did came on a marine ship...

Which makes me wonder how the fuck did someone as big as him stayed unnoticed?!
Either he was swimming under the ship, or he has the power to shrink.

I have already said this in the two lastest line of my last post in this thread.
Perhaps anyways SJ (only SJ) could be sucked by BB dark, so the other member of BB crew could embark on the ship without problems.

 

[Fox666]

When you see that ship in front of the gates of justice, the baloon says ""It would appear that this worked to the advantage of certain other parties, as well..." won't that ship being Luffy?

 

[modoki]

the part that confuses me about this is how did Blackbeard's crew get a hold of a ship when jimbei destroyed all prior to leaving?

 

[kkck]

What surprises me is how san juan was moved around. The BB pirates arrived to marineford on a marine vessel -jimbei did not destroy all of them-how in the world did san juan get there without the marines noticing? I think the guy simply travelled inside of BB with the help of the darkness thing.

 

[Poneglyph420]

I have already said this in the two lastest line of my last post in this thread.
Perhaps anyways SJ (only SJ) could be sucked by BB dark, so the other member of BB crew could embark on the ship without problems.

What surprises me is how san juan was moved around. The BB pirates arrived to marineford on a marine vessel -jimbei did not destroy all of them-how in the world did san juan get there without the marines noticing? I think the guy simply travelled inside of BB with the help of the darkness thing.

Did San Juan arrive via BB's darkness "dimension"..???

 

[Charlie]

Did San Juan arrive via BB's darkness "dimension"..???

Thats a good question. I had the same thought and came to the same probable answer as kkck and you did.

 

[THM Nindo]

Did San Juan arrive via BB's darkness "dimension"..???

It's possible.. but wouldn't that make BB's DF a bit too much like Madara's power from Naruto?!

 

[Pyrus]

I'd like to think that San Juan simply swam along with Blackbeard's ship, and the marines did not notice him because they were preoccupied with the war Whitebeard.

A reason why I dislike Blackbeard being able to store San Juan in his black dimension thing (and giants with shrinking devil fruits), is that it lessens the impact of San Juan being a super giant if he's only a giant when it's convenient for the story.

 

[Razh]

So far, everything that got sucked into Blackbeard's black hole ended up either thrashed or severely beaten. San Juan seems fine to me.

 

[Cooky42]

Colossal Battleship San Juan Wolf Alots already been said about this guy so i have nothing new to really say about him thats not already been said. Thinking about it further though he is the biggest and most likely the strongest physicaly out of all the BB pirates though he does appear to be quite child in nature possibly making him only a minor threat until he gets hurt and throws a tantrum ?

Crescent Moon Hunter Catalina Devon I think she will not have a devil fruit similar to zoro, I think her name possibly comes from her attacks with her spear maybe having an attack similar (in shape at least) to ichigos "Getsuga Tenshō"
Also the nose interests me makes me think she could be some relation to Ussop as that family seems to have the market cornered on huge noses in OP. Possibly Ussops grandmother on his mothers side.

The Great Drunk Busco Shot My first thought on this guy is maybe he uses drunken fist which i think has also been previously mentioned in this thread but then i thought what if hes a Alchohol man maybe having i dont know the Rum Rum no mi logia and turn himself into alchol. Thinkin about this surely he would be drunk all the time if he could turn his body into alchol it could also be pretty useful for getting your enemies drunk and making it more difficult for them to fight.

Corrupt King Abalo Pizarro Seems to be the man who drilled out level 5.5 in ID though it only seems that he has drill hands and could have some kind of drill drill no mi which could be a very handy ability to have. Or it could be that he just uses drills as a weapon either way could be very deadly.

Shiryuu Of The Rain We at least have a bit of history for this guy hes known to be sadistic and will kill anyone. He talks to his sword and treats it as a person so maybe hes a sword man for zoro to take down. When we first see him he appears to have devil wings coming from his back no if this was part of his outfit when he was a prison guard so as to appear more demonic like Magellan or it could be part of his abilites maybe a dark version of zoros techniques (i forgot the name sorry where he appears to have nine swords).