The "New" Blackbeard Pirates Discussion Thread.

[St Michael]

My bet on Pizaro or the big drunk guy

There is a small parallel between the cook and the alcohol drinker .. maybe ?

I can easily imagine Busco Shot spitting fire (by lighting alcohol in his mouth obviously) , knowing that Sanji is immune to burn , it could be interesting. Even an entire fight around the theme of fire could be nice.

 

[kkck]

Wonder how BB's crew would have changed over the past 2 years though. BB does not seem bent on not taking more crewmembers and if anything he is bound to need a larger crew for his purposes. I would think there are going to be more new BB pirates after the timeskip.

I guess the fight between the strawhats and the BB pirates will go like this:
Luffy vs Blackbeard
Zoro vs Shiliu
Sanji vs vasco shot
Franky vs Avalo Pirzarro
brook vs Lafitte
ussop vs Van auguer
chopper vs Dr Q
nami & robin vs catalina devon


SJW is missing but in turn I do not see him fighting anyone in particular. He looks more like the type luffy would take out before moving on to the main target. Vasco shot fights sanji because he was the last crewmember left when I was done assigning the other fights.

 

[St Michael]

You kinda forgot Burgess.

Besides , now that you mention it , I can see him being owned by Luffy in no time before going against BB.

Fodder like ..

 

[kkck]

Yiu are right, I forgeto burges.

Luffy vs Blackbeard
Zoro vs Shiliu
Sanji vs vasco shot
Franky vs Avalo Pirzarro
brook vs Lafitte
ussop vs Van auguer
chopper vs Dr Q
nami vs catalina
robin vs burges

 

[sh4dx]

I don't know but right now the BB pirates don't give me the feeling of a really powerful crew,put aside Teach and Shiryu,the rest even those who were at level6 although the hype they got that they were very strong and brutal and done things that their existence erased from the world,don't seem like opponents who would give for example a good match against someone like mihawk or dofla etc etc.

They are probably very strong for sure,and even back at Banaro Island when Burgess and Van Auger failed to hit/damage Ace i wasn't really dissapointed because i knew that even the MT couldn't do anything against any Logia.Now after the TS put aside luffy i believe that atleast zoro would probably has control over CoA and i believe the same for the most of the BB pirates.

Don't get me wrong i don't say they are weak,just that they don't give me the feeling that they are super strong,and as i said above put aside Teach&Shiryu, the others don't seem like guys who can win a fight against someone REALLY strong.At best handle their own against the likes of mihawk,Marco,croc etc etc but win against them?I really doubt.Now Oda after the TS may come up with a chapter or two showing them do something or a glimpse of their power,i hope at least because they didn't have a chance to shine,even if they gang up against WB and killed him for me wasn't something special because he was already half dead with his half head missing.The only thing that "hyped" them a little is Teach mocking Bonney that although she was a rookie she wasn't enough strong to join them,but anyway i didn't have the impression that she was a strong woman even back at SB and her power wasn't something really strong/special,put aside Akainu's words about her relationship with the WG i just believe that she isn't a strong fighter

 

[chess4]

the are the anti strawhats. the blackbeard pirates are not some all powerful group becuase they are still rising to the top. BLackbeards goal is to be king as well, so his crew is still growing in power as well just like the strawhats.

i feel like the blackbeard pirates vs any crews top 10 fighters would give them pure hell in a fight.

 

[kkck]

Of course the BB could do that. They would do that easily considering at least BB and all their new members have enough power to make a country disappear on their own. I would go as far as saying that they would still beat the crap out of the strawhats if they were to fight.

 

[zelllogan]

IMO, the next 6 fights are obvious:
Luffy vs BB : captain vs captain
Zoro vs Shiryu: swordman vs swordman
Sanji vs Burgess: brawler vs brawler (no devil fruit or weapons involved in the fight)
Usopp vs Van Auger: sniper vs sniper
Lafitte vs Brook: weird vs weird
Chopper vs Doc Q: doc vs doc

Even if I doubt that it will end into simple 1vs1 fights like in enies lobby.

I don't judge Burgess & Van Auger in terms of power from their fight against Ace (logia is too much of a cheat ...). BB did say that they were NOT YET at Ace level ... which means they will get there.

 

[Ero-Sanji]

My list... read the sign, down below.

Pizarro is still missing since I think he will face of with a potential fishman seeing how he resembles a cat.

 

[kkck]

At the moment I have trouble believing nami would face vasco shot. The guy is supposed to be dangerous enough to make a country disappear, I can't imagine her surviving that fight. San juan wolf seems somehow to be one of the lesser members of the crew with his sheer stupidity and apparently having as his only merit his size. Franky is supposed to be the fourth strongest so I have trouble seeing this fight.... I guess the main issue is that the BB pirates don't have a clear hierarchy except for BB being the captain. The new crewmembers seem like people who could actually fight and maybe even defeat ace as fellow level six cellmates and we do know the older ones could not match up.

 

[sh4dx]

well this thing that "they could destroy a whole country" i think it's more like sengoku said about wb "he has the power to destroy the world" which is more ypothetical(spel?) about how strong they are and not take it as a 100% statement(WB failed to break even a strong wall during the war,so destroy the whole planet is nowhere to real,just exaggerated).

Sure right now they probably would beat the SH but seriously they lack the "hype" of characters like mihawk/kuma/dofla/marco etc etc..I am sure that they are just strong enough to handle a battle for a few minutes but win against someone really strong there is no way (put aside teach/shiryu).Sure they are stronger than the older but because burgess&van auger failed to hit ace doesn't mean anything because PRE TS even the MT would have failed too.

I just hope that after FI Oda will show us a glimpse of their power or even a few chapters of them fighting some strong marines/pirates because right now IMO they lack the feeling of "high tier" characters

 

[kkck]

I somehow had the impression they were quite literal about the whole thing about a country disappearing. Obviously making the world explode would be too much and just WB hype but he does indeed possess the power to wipe out a nation IMO. The guy can send tsunami's at will for crying out loud and pretty big ones at that. We also did see the BB pirates destroying a complete island and none of them seemed injured in the least. And didn't the original BB pirates destroyed chopper's island once? These guys are supposed to be among the strongest of level 6... These guys could take out battleships and even a buster call easily IMO. Heck, even if we take a look at the WG and yonko it is pretty clear the vast majority of their power is concentrated on a handful of people (3 admirals and VA, 16 commanders, shanks main crew) so one of these guys putting thousands of life at risk is not really an exaggeration. And what about when ace fought BB? The fight ended with a colossal clash of darkness and fire.

 

[sh4dx]

As you said,the same thing that sengoku told for WB,the same goes for the LV6 prisoners,it's just exaggerated and to hype them.WB could easily destroy an island but whole planet noway,so the same for the prisoners,they could easily destroy for example THE CITIZENS of a country not exactly the whole country i think it's common sense.I said again right now we don't have a clue,and i don't say that they are weak or anything,just put aside teach/shiryu the others lack the "hype" of strong people like kuma/mihawk/admirals etc etc have.I guess sometime after FI we'll see them do(destroy) or fight someone strong marine/pirate so we'll understand how strong they really are,but right now IMO there is no way for them to match up against someone REALLY strong,and i doubt they will grow stronger among the series just like the SH because they seem pretty much elder and they seem to have reach their "peak".Maybe and i say MAYBE now after they set free may be a little stronger because they were stuck in prison and they stayed "back in fighting" but there is no way to be like the SH that they grow stronger after arc/fight