Discussion The Official Lucy Heartfilia Thread

[MangerDan]

She probably had something to do with bringing the dragon slayers to the current Era using eclipse. I highly doubt the dragons lived for 400 years with out a soul seems like a huge waste. When they only lasted about 30 minutes after they got out of the dragon slayers. Not to mention Natsu is indeed from that Era as well. It wouldn't suprise me if she was originally one of the 12 the one God Serena probably replaced.

 

[Puzzlez]

I think at first mashima idea is to make Lucy follow zeref for the time skip but he change his minds and make natsu leaving Lucy instead...

 

[kkck]

My impression so far is that in all likelyhood layla was a major zeref supporter. She was probably grown for the purpose. But being like lucy, as in infinitely kind, she saw what zeref was and the horror it represented. So she ran away. All of zeref's major supporters are probably taught what the one magic is. Layla would have been the only one that arrived to the conclusion that the one magic was love. Of course, the interpretation itself could be subjective, makarov made the point that the origin of magic was not important and magic itself was constantly changing. Maybe it works like a reflection of oneself. For hades and zeref it is darkness and despair because it is what is within them. For layla it was love because that is what she found within her.

 

[MeteorMash]

Completely random theory!:

Someone posted something about the fact that being 12 Spriggans it's not random (stated by Hiro?) and since the "number" in Fairy Tail are always connected, somehow, is there a connection between the Spriggan and the spirit world, somehow? I know it may be a little far-fetched, but, the CSK knew Mard Geer prior to their first fight. Mard Geer was created by Zeref so, at the very least, CSK and Zeref know/knew each other.

And i do believe that Lucy is the key (pun intended) to save Natsu at the very end, since she "can" summon the CSK who, conveniently knows a spell that corrodes the darkness away.

Another point. CSK refers to Lucy as an "old" friend. Is it because they know each other for only 17/18(?) years or because Lucy is actually Anna, in a "different" reality. Like Irene can change reality, Lucy can access to "another universe". I can´t seem to connect everything but, is just weird that all of this don't connect somehow. I even bet that Aquarius is "inside" Lucy, somehow, and even more, Lucy's ultimate power will come from her being fused with all of her spirits, becoming One (magic).

Curiously enough Lucy states that Loki is one of her stronger spirits, zodiac sign from the month August. If Aquarius is the "zodiac sign" of Irene (the two strongest spirits and the 2 strongest spriggans), i'm out!

Lucy, Anna and Layla are too similar. I want to bet that this is like some sort of sy-fy thing and Lucy is her own grandmother or something.
Since the beginning of the manga Lucy is clearly one level above other Celestial Spirits, and it was stated that Anna was the strongest Celestial Spirit that ever existed.

 

[Boomburst]

Completely random theory!:

Someone posted something about the fact that being 12 Spriggans it's not random (stated by Hiro?) and since the "number" in Fairy Tail are always connected, somehow, is there a connection between the Spriggan and the spirit world, somehow? I know it may be a little far-fetched, but, the CSK knew Mard Geer prior to their first fight. Mard Geer was created by Zeref so, at the very least, CSK and Zeref know/knew each other.

And i do believe that Lucy is the key (pun intended) to save Natsu at the very end, since she "can" summon the CSK who, conveniently knows a spell that corrodes the darkness away.

Another point. CSK refers to Lucy as an "old" friend. Is it because they know each other for only 17/18(?) years or because Lucy is actually Anna, in a "different" reality. Like Irene can change reality, Lucy can access to "another universe". I can´t seem to connect everything but, is just weird that all of this don't connect somehow. I even bet that Aquarius is "inside" Lucy, somehow, and even more, Lucy's ultimate power will come from her being fused with all of her spirits, becoming One (magic).

Curiously enough Lucy states that Loki is one of her stronger spirits, zodiac sign from the month August. If Aquarius is the "zodiac sign" of Irene (the two strongest spirits and the 2 strongest spriggans), i'm out!

Lucy, Anna and Layla are too similar. I want to bet that this is like some sort of sy-fy thing and Lucy is her own grandmother or something.
Since the beginning of the manga Lucy is clearly one level above other Celestial Spirits, and it was stated that Anna was the strongest Celestial Spirit that ever existed.

Anna was a Celestial Wizard, not a Celestial Spirit -_-

 

[PeanutButterJelly]

Anna was a Celestial Wizard, not a Celestial Spirit -_-

It's a typo,don't be so dramatic.
His theory does make sense,when you think about,because (from my perspective) some spriggan have some traits as the celestial spirite or the opposite( Jacob - Taurus ,DiMaria - Virgo )

 

[Boomburst]

It's a typo,don't be so dramatic.
His theory does make sense,when you think about,because (from my perspective) some spriggan have some traits as the celestial spirite or the opposite( Jacob - Taurus ,DiMaria - Virgo )

Well it's kinda hard to tell its a typo when he keeps using the word Spirit instead of Wizard repeatedly...I mean, if it was only once then it would be more obvious it was a typo but he used it multiple times. It certainly is a interesting theory though

 

[Jko]

Completely random theory!:

Someone posted something about the fact that being 12 Spriggans it's not random (stated by Hiro?) and since the "number" in Fairy Tail are always connected, somehow, is there a connection between the Spriggan and the spirit world, somehow? I know it may be a little far-fetched, but, the CSK knew Mard Geer prior to their first fight. Mard Geer was created by Zeref so, at the very least, CSK and Zeref know/knew each other.

And i do believe that Lucy is the key (pun intended) to save Natsu at the very end, since she "can" summon the CSK who, conveniently knows a spell that corrodes the darkness away.

Another point. CSK refers to Lucy as an "old" friend. Is it because they know each other for only 17/18(?) years or because Lucy is actually Anna, in a "different" reality. Like Irene can change reality, Lucy can access to "another universe". I can´t seem to connect everything but, is just weird that all of this don't connect somehow. I even bet that Aquarius is "inside" Lucy, somehow, and even more, Lucy's ultimate power will come from her being fused with all of her spirits, becoming One (magic).

Curiously enough Lucy states that Loki is one of her stronger spirits, zodiac sign from the month August. If Aquarius is the "zodiac sign" of Irene (the two strongest spirits and the 2 strongest spriggans), i'm out!

Lucy, Anna and Layla are too similar. I want to bet that this is like some sort of sy-fy thing and Lucy is her own grandmother or something.
Since the beginning of the manga Lucy is clearly one level above other Celestial Spirits, and it was stated that Anna was the strongest Celestial Spirit that ever existed.

The theory isn't far fetched but I think One Magic doesn't inherently have to do with Celestial Magic.

I do see CSK coming into play in this War once Lucy somehow gets all three Gate Keys to Open the World Gate which is most likely the way to summon The CSK at his fullest power she could possibly even get his Stardress and chanel all his power rather than only a bit.

With the old friend thing I think that's either CSK way of speech or it's because Lucy bears an eerily similar resemblance to Anna. I think Anna is most likely the one to summon The CSK to fight against Mard Geer and probably the only other Celestial Wizard besides Lucy to get invited to the Celestial Spirit World.

 

[Brandish μ]

Lucy will become more plot relevant soon imo. When Zeref sees Lucy he will surely connect her to Anna/Layla. Well I guess it does depend if the celestial/eclipse stuff is finished with or is still relevant. And the One Magic thing, Lucy seems like the only person associated with it... but Idk what it even is.

Am I the only one that think csk star dress is a funny things? It sound cringe... I heard some others like Celestial spirit Queen .....

I don't want such things to happen... Lucy should gets other kind of power up....

It would be called the CSK star dress though, unless the King does have a Queen somewhere

I think this power up is legit, but I'm not sure she has it right now (ie she might get it in the future). Essentially the star dresses allow Lucy to use the MP of her Spirits. If she did this with the CSK, then I can only imagine her power would be extraordinary in that dress. Spirits like Sagittarius already give Lucy a bit of a power up with the stardress (as Makarov mentioned)... so yea CSK stardress would be a huge boost. She might be able to summon all her spirits with all that MP, and they'd be stronger too.

And it would be the most badass design of Lucy's imo... I wonder if Lucy will get a sweet moustache

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*Also I am going to change the poll, the old one is outdated*

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Removed poll as of 16/08/2016

 

[Summer]

Lucy will become more plot relevant soon imo. When Zeref sees Lucy he will surely connect her to Anna/Layla. Well I guess it does depend if the celestial/eclipse stuff is finished with or is still relevant. And the One Magic thing, Lucy seems like the only person associated with it... but Idk what it even is.



It would be called the CSK star dress though, unless the King does have a Queen somewhere

I think this power up is legit, but I'm not sure she has it right now (ie she might get it in the future). Essentially the star dresses allow Lucy to use the MP of her Spirits. If she did this with the CSK, then I can only imagine her power would be extraordinary in that dress. Spirits like Sagittarius already give Lucy a bit of a power up with the stardress (as Makarov mentioned)... so yea CSK stardress would be a huge boost. She might be able to summon all her spirits with all that MP, and they'd be stronger too.

And it would be the most badass design of Lucy's imo... I wonder if Lucy will get a sweet moustache

It might happen but I can't help but cringe at the words " csk star dress " it sound lame tbh but it would be super op power up . She might be able to sustain csk far much more longer which by now should be low - mid springgan tier and fight alongside the kings using the " csk star dress "

I don't think she will have a moustache ( even though that would be cool Lol ) . So far Lucy star dress only shown to be almost the same dress as the spirit dress . Not the face characteristics . Wouldn't it be funny if in that seriously op fight Lucy will have moustache?

 

[Brandish μ]

It might happen but I can't help but cringe at the words " csk star dress " it sound lame tbh but it would be super op power up . She might be able to sustain csk far much more longer which by now should be low - mid springgan tier and fight alongside the kings using the " csk star dress "

Summoning him is also cool. She could use CSK star dress and then summon him too

But it's only a theory about CSK star dress... it might not be possible. Perhaps whatever Anna/Layla wore when the used Eclipse is some kind of star dress for legendary CS wizards, so that could be a power up.

I don't think she will have a moustache ( even though that would be cool Lol ) . So far Lucy star dress only shown to be almost the same dress as the spirit dress . Not the face characteristics . Wouldn't it be funny if in that seriously op fight Lucy will have moustache?

Yes it would be funny if she had a moustache and then Brandish can expand it to make it very big and more hilarious

I think the CSK star dress would make her look like Erza.

 

[Arjuna]

It will be nice to see Lucy gain CSK powerup with Star Dress.She may gain One Magic and become super powerful at the end of Fairytail with Natsu.

 

[Left Eye of Ra]

This is about Lucy but bear with me. I think one of the most important arcs in fairy tail was the sun village arc. In it, we are introduced to the law of retrogression magic, a magic that makes mages and their magic less mature; and we see that Atlas Flame seems to recognise Natsu as END, or at least his fading memories of END are jogged when he sees Natsu hovering in front of him with "wings" and looking much more demon-like than usual. This reminds Atlas Flame that Igneel fought END in a great battle 400 years ago. As we now know that Natsu is END, at the very least Natsu's memory was altered when he travelled to the future. Also, if Natsu/END was a child when he went through the eclipse gate, he would neither have put up much of a fight with Igneel when he was 4, nor would a full grown present day Natsu remind Atlas Flame of the miraculously powerful child-demon of 400 years in the past. One explanation is that the law of retrogression was cast on the eclipse travellers, either to aid their integration into present day Ishgar, to protect them from Acnologia by diminishing their magic or to resolve some sort of conflict between them when they arrived. This would explain why Wendy, Rogue and Sting were ridiculously young when they started out alone in the new world.

Similarly with "Lucy", who is surrounded by clues that she has a long back story. The CSK refers to Lucy as "old friend" continuously, the celestial spirits seem to instinctively know her/can arrive without being summoned by her/want to avoid hurting her; she can cast mighty spells even with little apparent power and she has a very close platonic relationship with a dragon slayer. If she is Anna and arrived with the dragon slayers, she must have also been turned into a child and had her memories altered to protect the secrecy of the mission.

An argument against this is the traditional interpetation of Fried's enchantment in the battle of fairy tail. It prohibited passage to those who were over 80 and should have stopped Anna/Lucy, but we know that enchantments are very strict in their exactness. The enchantment did not stop "anyone born more than 80 years ago" from passing, but simply those who were over 80. Since time travel by its definition would seem not to alter one's age, I think it is more likely that the two eldest dragon slayers (Gajeel and Natsu, both of whom look a little less than human) were older than Anna before their regression and were thus blocked by the enchantment, rather than time travel changing the characters' ages.

The implications are wide ranging. It could mean that Lucy once had a relationship with Acnologia similar to her current one with Natsu. Also, that following the Beatles song theory of the names of Heartfilia reincarnations, that she is the one who gave Acnologia his arm ring and the "strength in his arms" which Igneel sacrificed himself to diminish and alluded to by Zeref. This would make her, along with Zeref, responsible for the genocide of the dragons, and the story of fairy tail, with all its scattered messages of forgiveness and redemption, could actually be a giant story of Anna's redemption for her part in this genocide and justify her role as the protagonist. It also creates a passionate and plausible reason for Natsu and Acnologia to fight over her in a legendary battle to be immortalised in that painting.

Quite long. I hope it makes sense.

 

[Cat Sidhe26]

 

[Vici]

It is possible that Hiro will be back to some plans that he abandon in previous Arcs we will see..

I personally think that Lucy may ask Zeref at some point to save Natsu " Kneel before me " ( I ship this

)

Also waiting for Capricorn star dress

 

[Summer]

It is possible that Hiro will be back to some plans that he abandon in previous Arcs we will see..

I personally think that Lucy may ask Zeref at some point to save Natsu " Kneel before me " ( I ship this

)

Also waiting for Capricorn star dress

This is funny and I don't know if that post is serious or not but it is strange that Lucy suddenly wearing that cloth back in this chapters... I thought that it is weirds and somehow odd too... Wonder why mashima do that...

I'm so curious about Capricorn power, and I wonder why mashima kept it a secrets till now Capricorn did once actually absorbed loke power and be able to use it momentarily somehow... Idk if that is his power or it is just a hint of star dress

 

[ohthedreyar]

I think the author has the plot all planned out, and is just trolling with his readers / fans as always. And how keen the poster on tumblr is to catch that! I can see it now.. the moment where Lucy kneels before Zeref and begging him to spare Natsu and give him back to her.

Except Zeref from that sketch isn't wearing his emperor outfit.

 

[GamerSkull]

We'll have to see the CSK star dress at some point. I can't imagine Lucy would want to sacrifice another key though.

You know what would suck? If Lucy goes through so much trouble to find Aquarius again only to be forced to sacrifice her again in order to call down the Celestial Spirit King and get that star dress. That would be so sad.

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I wonder if a dragon spirit exists? Wouldn't it be cool if Lucy had a star dress that gave her celestial dragon slaying magic? (Unlikely, but it's fun to think about.)

 

[Dorsher]

Lucy was adorable this recent chapter. The pout though. Haha.

 

[Crescent Jinx]

Capricorn star dress:

1) Here's to hoping that he learned Emperor's rule while fused to Zoledo. Which is the ability to weaken opponents magic in battle.

2) Here's to hoping that Loke giving Capricorn regulus was not a fluke. That Capricorn has some hidden ability to combine spirits magic with his own. Cuz honestly if Lucy could combine Taurus's strengthen, Ares's wool, Aquarius's water, Scorpio's sand, Leo's regulus, and Capricorn's martial arts..... That would be awesome.

3) Here's to hoping that besides teaching Lucy how to regulate her magic in gmg. He has the ability to even allow her to summon multiple spirits like she did in the Loke arc. Cuz before Mashima pulls some crazy Reisha/Elle power up, I need one legit battle with all the 12 celestial spirits going in at one time plus Lucy in star dress. Maybe Ophericus for support.

Honestly I would prefer something like this than the "one magic" because we could see how far Lucy has progressed if she can combine star dresses into one star dress and summon multiple spirits. Then next arc (if there is one), she could move to summoning a celestial king star dress.

One thing I like about Lucy as a character is her natural progression every arc as a fighter. Not a sudden.... "She's so OP!!! Who could win against her?!" Cuz that's not her character.

Early arcs: increased the number of keys she had
OS: Urano metria
Edolas: fleuce de whatever whip to help her not use up magic by summoning
Tenrou: least favorable to Lucy's growth
Gmg: summon two spirits; training to maintain her energy longer
Tartaros: summon 3 spirits; summon csk; star dress
Alvarez: star dresses