Discussion The Official Relationship/Pairing/Shipping Thread

[thatsvicchan]

Spoiler: GruVia

@darkenedreality @thatsvicchan @Wanderer @Otaku shrink
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Saw this on tumblr! Love how both of them protect each other, Juvia doesn't want to be the classic damsel in distress and actually fights for her and Gray's safety. He acknowledges that but cannot help but protect her "no matter what the cost"

 

[Wanderer]

Spoiler: GruVia

@darkenedreality @thatsvicchan @Wanderer @Otaku shrink
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It's beautiful

The last panel is my absolute favourite moment!

DID YOU SEE THE LATEST MASHIMA TWITTER ART? The fact Gray and Juvia were playing strip poker together had me in stitches xD I love how they have no problem stripping on the battlefield but any other situation and it's a completely different story.

Wonder which one of them will wake up first Already miss them xD

 

[darkenedreality]

Anyone saying Nalu has more development than Gruvia or even Gajevy/Jerza are focusing on screen time. Not actual romantic development. Nalu is in last place, considering the relationship isn't even confirmed one sided, let alone two. Lucy is still denying any feelings of love as of the recent chapters. They deeply care for each other, but they are static in regards to romance. Probably because Hiro flat out said he had no intention whatsoever to make a romantic aspect for Natsu and Lucy, but ended up making readers conversely anticipate it. He most likely changed his mind at some point (passed Tartaros, because of Hirano's infamous comment), but he's still only drawing them as more than friends, less than lovers. Hiro even states he likes Natsu and Lucy this way. I do expect them to become canon, but saying "Nalu is the best/has the best development" is your personal opinion, not a fact. The reality is they are lacking in the romance department, since their bond really hasn't changed. They're doing the same things they've always done for each other.

 

[Hermit]

Spoiler: GruVia poker

@Wanderer OML someone tried out the poker game These edits give me life
@thatsvicchan See this too

 

[Raven]

Saying others ship has better development is your opinion too. NaLu is still #1 even without the physical romance aspect.

 

[darkenedreality]

Saying others ship has better development is your opinion too. NaLu is still #1 even without the physical romance aspect.

Nalu has the most screen time, yup.
Screen time =/= romantic development. Take Naruto and Sakura for example.

 

[GamerSkull]

I'm all for discussion, but things are just going in circles at this rate... I'm not taking sides here but people are starting to say the same things they said pages ago.

Some people find NaLu development better and some people find Gruvia better.
Could we stop antagonizing one another though? It's just a back and forth that won't go anywhere.

 

[Raven]

Nalu has the most screen time, yup.
Screen time =/= romantic development. Take Naruto and Sakura for example.

Who brought screen time ?
NaLu > Gruvia, Gale and Jerza by 80000 nautical mile.

 

[darkenedreality]

^You didn't listen to a word I said. Congrats.

You can absolutely find something better. There's a difference between stating "Hey I like X ship's development better/the best" compared to "X ship has more development". The latter can be debated, and certainly there is nothing wrong with doing so.

 

[Raven]

Your exampled is flawed and not in place that's why i don't need to discuss a different thing..
NaLu is what making fairy tail awesome anyway and they are the best ship out there because it's bigger than any ship and accommodate many passengers with safe navigational schemes and safe speed. It may not arrive first but that doesn't make other ships any better got it ?

 

[darkenedreality]

NaLu is better to you and makes Fairy Tail awesome for you. It bores the hell out of me.

 

[SirSamuel016]

Personally, I have to agree with @darkenedreality here. NaLu has definitely had more screen time than other ships but I definitely wouldn't say it's had more development than other ships. If you look at ships like Gruvia and Gale, you can see how both people have had an impact on the other and see how far they've come because of each other as well as growing closer to each other. These ships have had far more development in that regard than NaLu has imo.

 

[M3J]

Heres my opinion

Nalu:crack ship with no development(dontkillmepls)

Gajevy(2nd fav ship):cutest ship
Even though i didnt care for it before but it has really grown on me this arc

Gruvia:

Jerza(fav ship):hottest ship
their angst is delicious
although jellal needs to get his shit together and get with erza

Bonus

Ichiya x erza:believe ot or not,i used to ship these two in the past.

Nalu as in Natsu-Lucy? How is it crack shipping? It's likely to happen, and many things point to it.

But I 3/4 agree with the development. There's been some development, but barely any compared to Gray-Juvia. Even Jellal-Erza and Elf-Ever have better development throughout the series than those two, at least in romantic side. Also agree with Jellal needing to get his shit together so he can get with Erza.

I agree with M3J on the fact that pure fanservice doesn't always (emphasis on always) equate to shipping moments. I agree with Gabo that in an ecchi/shonen manga where romance isn't prevalent or focused on it's a good way at times (emphasis on at times) to point potential ships. Let me give y'all an example:

Spoiler: 416

Spoiler: 446-447

I'm picking these off the top of my head. This is where I understand M3J's side, nobody will confuse which one of these moments is more romantic. The Nalu moments here are purely fanservice while the Gruvia are truly romantic. I'm not saying Nalu hasn't had romantic moments, don't assume that. The hug Lucy gave Natsu after he destroyed the gate was nothing but romantic, I get that. But we can't confuse fanservice moments w/ romantic moments if it's doesn't match up imo. It's like people are forcing themselves to think this:

• fanservice w/ someone = romance/shipping

while in truth it's really this:

• fanservice w/ someone ≠ romance/shipping

It honestly depends on the moment. OVA 4 or the Christmas special is a good example of fanservice = romantic, while something like Rogue groping Yukino which means Rogue loves her.....? It isn't. It's just comedy and that's the part I struggle to get w/ shipping. Crack ships are fun and I get why people like to do so, everyone is guilty of that lowkey but that's not my point. It's no question there are times where fanservice moments are romantic, of course, I'm not debating that. It's simply a fact that Nalu doesn't have the sheer amount of "romantic moments" as the others in the Big 4, flat out. It makes sense according to what Hiro recently said about them too, they're still in the friends phase. And I like Nalu alot, it's my favorite out of all of them so I'm not hating I'm just being real.

That panel of Gray and Juvia isn't ecchi at all. I think Juvia asking Gray to spank her for screwing up would actually be ecchi.

Dunno about that panel of LUcy getting on top of the carriage, but it seems more like fan service than ecchi fan service.

Well, Natsu-Lucy barely has any romantic moments, and it seems the ones that the fans point out aren't really romantic at all, or it's desperation to make it sound romantic. But, great relationships do start out as friends, so that might be a sign of their longevity.

Spoiler: GruVia

@darkenedreality @thatsvicchan @Wanderer @Otaku shrink
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Another reason why Gray-Juvia is one of the best pairings out there.

 

[Hermit]

Spoiler: Jerza doodles

Someone needs to fucking stop me before I lose my mind
@Vici You need to see this Jellal post

 

[Mononoke]

This is going around in a circle but I will say this, out of all the ships NaLu is certainly not the most developed.
Now I am not denying there could be something between the two as that's something different entirely but these "feelings" for one another have nearly not changed through the entire manga. It's still just the exact same as it was two/ three or four arcs ago; They trust each other, protect one another and have fan service/ comic relief moments *cough* Stone age spin off *cough*. There is no difference from before except in different scenario's.

The ship with the most development is probably Gale or Gruvia as you actually see it change through the manga and see a BIG difference between what the ships were at the start to what they are now.
(Fyi I do not even care about ships in the first place xD )

 

[Gabo]

The development of the NaLu and the other Ships is the Same guys, all Ships development work about the personality of the characters and not about the preferences of the others.

NaLu development works in the personality happy and clueless from bot, atsu is not a Romantic guy, but he demostrated preference in the contact whit Lucy and hem itself have demostrated really emotions more than Friends and really certain lovers, he only need be more bright and focused,

Lucy is a girl more rather than is shy and as already is has raised before the possibility real of be with Natsu but is obvious that its same form of be it makes be something Tsun in the appearance, since this in the area of comfort, but is obvious that to she not him indifferent

The same goes for the other couples, what makes these development is their own personality, the GruVia, GajeelLevy and the JerZa move in base their own personality, there that we see different levels of development that do not allow each fan to play with how to do things for each

 

[Jko]

Tbh the only one developing in the Gruvia ship is Gray. Juvia's character as regressed post Tenrou to the point that Gray is her sole purpose in life. They're developing moments are just centered around Gray coming to terms that he likes her. Juvia's been the same since day one on the romantic part.

If you're talking about solely romantic development then obviously Gajevy is the most developed since both parties actually grew from each other.

 

[Raven]

Tbh the only one developing in the Gruvia ship is Gray. Juvia's character as regressed post Tenrou to the point that Gray is her sole purpose in life. They're developing moments are just centered around Gray coming to terms that he likes her. Juvia's been the same since day one on the romantic part.

If you're talking about solely romantic development then obviously Gajevy is the most developed since both parties actually grew from each other.

She developed by learning a spell in secret to save Gray from danger after Silver's words to her back in Tartarous.

 

[Jko]

She developed by learning a spell in secret to save Gray from danger after Silver's words to her back in Tartarous.

Yes but I'm talking about character development not power development. She would've learned a spell to save Gray either way bcs that's all she thinks about lol.

 

[GamerSkull]

Tbh the only one developing in the Gruvia ship is Gray. Juvia's character as regressed post Tenrou to the point that Gray is her sole purpose in life. They're developing moments are just centered around Gray coming to terms that he likes her. Juvia's been the same since day one on the romantic part.

If you're talking about solely romantic development then obviously Gajevy is the most developed since both parties actually grew from each other.

I'll admit that I hated Gajevy at first but the ship slowly grew on me and it's my second favorite in the series. Then it's Gruvia... and then all the other lesser ships... then Jerza (sorry don't kill me)

I do like how both Gajeel and Levy grew off each other but also didn't always revolve around each other, at least not to the extent of Gruvia (I by no means dislike the ship, I think it's fine) but I still wish Juvia wouldn't obsess over Gray at least when she's with other people.