We've had this discussion a million times and the general consenses is that the first ranking happens on chapter 8. Eight weeks ago counting the current chapter.
Since when did logic figure into stretching out a series or not? If the series is a cash-cow, they'd do whatever it took to extend it. That being said, after the Toriyama debacle, it's entirely plausible that the current editorial department is more sensitive to the desires of the creator. I didn't say it was going to happen, just that it's possible.
I see no one mentioned how Bastard!! was moved from Shounen Jump to Ultra Jump.
I disagree. When DGM was moved I would venture a guess that they took it to keep the series going, to work with Hoshino to make it easier for her and to give the magazine some more attention. There's nothing in Bleach that tells me it couldn't be serialized in SQ. Does SQ even have much of an identity now? I understand the idea of demographics, but the Bleach intellectual property alone would overcome it in my opinion.
I didn't mentioned Bastard!! because it moved to other magazine due to serializing irregularly. The examples that I provided is the series that moved to other magazines because of low ranking.
It's possible they took Hoshino's condition into consideration, but I don't picture them being so nice. Getting SQ more attention sounds about right. DGM was consistently low in TOC, sold consistently well, and likely appealed to SQ's core audience. The fact that it was instantly SQ's best seller kind of backs that up.
SQ doesn't really seem to do tournament manga. Tegami Bachi is still the model SQ action series; more plot intensive and introspective than WSJ normally handles. Mago would be a good fit, it seems more like an SQ series than a WSJ one anyway. Most of the tournament tropes were purged from DGM when it moved. I can't really picture Bleach serialized alongside Tegami, AnE, Rosario, Kurenai, Claymore, etc. Kubo's art style would work, but not the storytelling. SQ also allows more adult content than WSJ does. To-Love-Ru had fanservice, To-Love-Ru: Darkness has nudity. A lot of nudity, actually. Because of that I can't see a series with a young teen audience moving to SQ. If Bleach's ranking does not recover but sales remain unaffected, I could kind of seeing it moving to V Jump, like Yu-Gi-Oh did. Whatever Bleach's fate is, it has at least a year to recover. If it stays in the bottom five (already a big assumption) they will want to give it at least four tankobon before deciding it's fate.
I don't think Bleach will fit V Jump either. V Jump is targeted to more younger audience than WSJ, and Bleach is too violent for V Jump audience.
I agree with HXH in SQ. In fact I've thought that Togashi should seriously consider switching gears to monthly if the weekly pace isn't working out for him. If they're willing to give sales consideration (and to some extent) health consideration to Hoshino to move to SQ, HXH would benefit from this as well. Although to be honest, I just want to see HXH get to it's natural conclusion. (Just finished the YYH manga, and the word infuriating is really kind of me being nice.) 'Course I would like to see HXH end before I expire.
The same thing happened with JoJo, though done in parts treated as separate series. Both manga have been made more mature by being in a Seinen magazine. I know it's a technicality, but PoT ended in WSJ and while it's a continuation of the the first series, it wasn't just moved like DGM was. The same goes for To-LOVE-Ru, a different series than what was in WSJ. To-LOVE-Ru seemed to be a permanent fixture in the bottom five while in WSJ, but was popular enough to get an anime and sell pretty well. PoT had a devoted fanbase too, even if it jumped around in the ToC when it finally came back from a long hiatus.
How exactly was Hoshino's "condition" not taken into consideration? She supposedly had more assistants than other mangaka (though it's her prerogative obviously), took frequent breaks, only one that was confirmed as being due to illness IIRC. Every time she came back her art style seemed to change. When a series as successful as DGM is there, moving it to SQ was a convenience. I don't think it had anything to do with being nice or not, it was just perfect timing. She's even taken breaks now that DGM is monthly (I know many monthly series have done this, but given her history...). She was willing to continue it, it sold well, and SQ happened to be there.
If you read a series like Bastard!! for instance, it's much different now than it was when it was in WSJ. I'm not saying Bleach is a perfect fit for SQ necessarily, but I'm just saying there's no way SQ wouldn't take it when it still sells so well. It's one of the more ecchi series in the magazine, as well as having blatant fanservice. It's the Air Gear of WSJ IMO. V-Jump...not really.
He knows jack shit about pacing and doesn't really fit into any other magazine (image- and/or audience-wise), so you named the only solution: make him do his stuff directly-to-tankoubon! xD He could probably still leech off of his +500k fans and no one would have to worry about rankings or wasting a slot in some manga anthology. /jk
I would LOL, I have to stop comparing BLEACH to Saint Seiya, but IF BLEACH would move to V Jump then I would laugh out loud in the irony, because.. Guess what manga appeared on V Jump Issue 1? Hint: Saint Seiya, it moved from WSJ to V Jump at the end of its serialization.
Hell yeah! I love Matsui!! Though I assume these are oneshots? Though wait, Jump Next....so obviously. Still, more Matsui is like a godsend. I just hope he's planning a serial soon.
Nice!!!
you mean... invest your time? in reading a manga? they're... not really all that time consuming to read. you say invest like it's some sort of risk to get involved with a potentially cancellable series.
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He means invest emotionally (in a sense). In the chance that you get excited for a new manga, and then it ends, it leaves you feeling sour because you want more but won't get it. Double Arts is a good example of this, it was very much enjoyed throughout the internet, and then the hopes of a number of people was crushed when it was canceled, leaving people jaded about starting to read new series.
True but it looks so gorgeous and the story sounds promising :/ If it gets scanlated I will give it a shot and hope for the best
