Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 1

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I'm actually looking forward to the next KHR arc, the last one was such a disaster that it can only get better. I really hope Amano makes up for the last arc and shows us the good ol' Reborn.
Your statement reminds me of what most of khr fandom thought at the end of TYL arc: "the ending of TYL arc is so disastrous that the next arc must be good because nothing can top the horror we just seen"

and then the Shimon Arc arrived. ^^;;;;;;;;;

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I am so sad Enigma is low. What a shame, the series provides a nice variety among all of those battle mangas in WSJ... The new arc is very interesting, i hope Enigma will survive. Go, Go, Sakaki-sensei!
I am not puzzled the end of the e-test arc got such a low position because i find it more confusing than interesting... ehm, maybe i am the only one who thinks so.
 

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Well, Ikkyuu is gone for good now. It is kind of sad because it was interesting chapter, but I do admit that chapters after chapter 2 weren't too much interesting.

I'm happy that Kurogane going to get serialized because I really liked its one shot. I hope this one to be newly successful sport manga since Jump really lack sport series.
 

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Your statement reminds me of what most of khr fandom thought at the end of TYL arc: "the ending of TYL arc is so disastrous that the next arc must be good because nothing can top the horror we just seen"

and then the Shimon Arc arrived. ^^;;;;;;;;;
I didn't thought that. The end of the TYL arc definitely wasn't that great but it wasn't disastrous either. And the TYL was like 10 times better than the Shimon Arc, the whole arc sucked and not just the ending :/ Now it will definitely be about the Arcobaleno so I actually have hope that it will get better
 

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So.. In like 6 weeks we should see how Bleach really is faring right now, right?

Also.. I know I do this a lot but other comparison between BLEACH chapters 460 and 461 and Knights of the Zodiac (Saint Seiya):

This is from Asgard
which is anime filler, but anyway this part occurs in the Poseidon arc in the manga. The scene in question occurs at 3:30 in the video. Its basically how Ichigo got its powers back. The Gold Saints give some of their blood so the Bronze cloths revive, so the Bronze Saints can continue figthing.

And this week's BLEACH felt very similar.
 
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About six weeks, yeah. I'm pretty sure chapters 459-460 will rank higher too. Sad to see Ikkyuu go, I did enjoy it. If St&rs is canceled there will be problems.
 

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Seriously why does everyone thinks that Engima should be higher? It's been getting kind of boring for me. Can't wait to read this week's Reborn though.
 

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Seriously why does everyone thinks that Engima should be higher? It's been getting kind of boring for me. Can't wait to read this week's Reborn though.
Because they think it's been getting interesting. Opinions will differ of course. Though, I think some people might also be judging the series as a whole, as opposed to the recent happenings. Even if it might be a bit off at the moment, it isn't a series you would wish to be canceled because it's different. So you'll want it to be ranked higher.

Am I wrong to hope that this'll be the final arc for reborn? I can't imagine this continuing past the big mystery that's been hanging above the series since the beginning. Not for nothing, but I've been tolerating the past two arcs because of the possibility that it would end with the whole Arcobaleno thing, anything past this would just be pushing it.
 
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So.. In like 6 weeks we should see how Bleach really is faring right now, right?

Also.. I know I do this a lot but other comparison between BLEACH chapters 460 and 461 and Knights of the Zodiac (Saint Seiya):

This is from Asgard
which is anime filler, but anyway this part occurs in the Poseidon arc in the manga. The scene in question occurs at 3:30 in the video. Its basically how Ichigo got its powers back. The Gold Saints give some of their blood so the Bronze cloths revive, so the Bronze Saints can continue figthing.

And this week's BLEACH felt very similar.
well, even if it, it's not the first time Kubo done something like that...
I mean, the whole series just started off with Yu Yu Hyakusho at its base.
 

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well, even if it, it's not the first time Kubo done something like that...
I mean, the whole series just started off with Yu Yu Hyakusho at its base.
At least he is ending the Nen users arc now~ Well, I hated the whole arc but Shalnark kid with his toy and all was fun~ Learning Musica's silver-claimer sword was actually a zanpakuto of a former substitute shinigami was surprising as well... did I say musica? uh... sorry, i meant half-aizen.... i mean Ginjou...

Note: That PSP thing wasn't fun at all or anything else about the arc --even the big damn heroes rescue at the end. I just wanted to mention Shalnark *cough* i mean Yukio. Now I just want to learn who was the genius that figured out opening a hair salon in Soul Society was the best idea ever. He deserves credit for making rigid shinigamis who lived with the same hair styles for more than hundred years change their styles in a matter of months.

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I think the TOC is good --but I wish Medaka was higher and Gintama was above Naruto.
 

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I think that for Enigma's rankings to improve, it's gonna take time. It needs to bring in new fans right now, which it can't really do effectively as long as the E-Test is running.

I expect it to pick up once the new arc starts getting ranked and hopefully it'll keep going from there.
 
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Bleach should make a good leap once the last three chapters are ranked. They have all been great, if those chapters don't bump Bleach's current rankings Kubo will be in serious trouble and quite frankly I would be shocked if they didn't result in a decent jump upwards in the ladder.

As for Naruto, it's obvious that over 60 consecutive chapters without Sasuke is hurting the series' rankings, he is after all highly popular amongst the japanese fans, not to mention that this whole arc has been kind of dull. I expect once the real plot starts and this Edo Tensei arc ends (which is soon), Naruto should be a more or less constant 2 and sometimes 1, especially when Sasuke finally joins the fray again.
 

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Claiming Naruto's rankings are ailing is always a bit of a reach considering that has not dropped out of the top five in three years. i guess the bar has been set so high that anything short of second gets noticed :p
Sasuke's return pretty much guarantee's permanent top two status. The long Sasuke arc consistently outranked One Piece.
 

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Medaka managed to dodge the bottom 5 by one space. Good job on that one.

Woot Sket Dance reaches the #2 spot. I'm so happy for it and Bakuman grabbing a top 5 spot too.

No surprise Ikkyu is gone. I had a feeling it would end up being a cushion for everything else. Now whatever happens to get the axe next is probably going to be more painful for people if this trend keeps on continuing From the looks of it Magico and Enigma are going to have to battle it out or hope that the two new series tank. Another new series comes along. Lets see if it manages to do better than some of the other ones this year.
 

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I see a lot of post hoping for the new Enigma arc to reboost it. Honestly I found this train chapter really disapointing and it resemble like an e-test bis with other characters.
Also I fear that between Enigma and Magico, the first one has a handicap. The story is rather dark compared to a love story one. If we take into account that mago is also darker than usual at the moment and not really in the reader favor, Enigma may have some trouble soon.
 

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I notice people pitting Enigma and Magico against each other, and at the moment I would why. I mean there's a new series beginning next week, one series has just ended and there's a spot open from oneshots having just ended. That means there's one relatively safe spot. I'm not entirely caught up on this, but how many new series other than Kurogane are there going to be?
 

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[Cross];2579689 said:
Am I wrong to hope that this'll be the final arc for reborn? I can't imagine this continuing past the big mystery that's been hanging above the series since the beginning. Not for nothing, but I've been tolerating the past two arcs because of the possibility that it would end with the whole Arcobaleno thing, anything past this would just be pushing it.
I don't want it to be the last arc but my gut feeling that it will be. You know how long I wanted a Arcobaleno arc? I just hope its really good.
 

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It seems like the new series kinda came out of nowhere, so I don't think we know how many we're getting yet.

And I'm not really feeling the whole Magico VS Enigma thing either, they're basically on opposite sides of the spectrum (meaning their fanbases won't overlap much) and I think there's enough room for both of them in the magazine for them right now.
 

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Sket Dance in the #2 spot?! Good for you, new character. Everyone loves you. :wtf

Nothing much to comment about, but I'm sad about Mago and Enigma's rankings as always.
 
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