Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2017] - Discussion and TOC Talk

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KageTrigger

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I guess my favorites for 2010+ are
Stain
Madara
All For One
Isabella (Mama)

In no particular order, just what I can think of for now.
 

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English jump is out and wow, Shudan is incredible. It's not often I give something a 10 on viz's surveys but I will this week, hopefully it can keep up the quality in successive chapters.
 

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So Shuudan is basically Straighten Up with a different sport. Feels exactly the same, nice but not your typical hot-blooded sports series. It could actually work because it's not being the usual generic soccer series. Either way, seems like it will be a lot of fun.
 

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If it feels the same then I'll surely like it. Straighten Up was so charming and feel-good. Can't wait to read it then.
 

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I had no interest in Shudan, but I guess I'll check it out now.
 

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Dunno what to feel about Shudan; I enjoyed more with Ole Golazo.

At least the girl is cute and enjoyable.
 

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sometime i forgot i don't need to wait for Edited Manga lol.

Alright who said that this girl is a trap raise your hand :ck.
 

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I had no interest in Shudan, but I guess I'll check it out now.
This kind of post is amusing because despite having no interest at all, he will read it anyway, 45 pages! xD
 

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Well at least you can see some of the pages here

I don't think they show Kimetsu this week so dont worry about getting spoiled.
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Only One Piece can be seriously considered in this question and I think that although there are many candidates one that was remarkable for me was Pudding because she also gets the award for best actress of Jump. I was already singing my love for her and she does this:

I like the kind of villain that pretends to be good to stab you in the back, it is the worst kind of villain. She was also well constructed with all the plot that everybody considered her ugly because of her third eye and them Sanji comes with surprising words for her. I'm curious about her future after this.
I don't like these types of villains. Pudding's backstab was so obvious, a lot of people saw it coming. Now it feels like she'll have a change of heart.

One Piece villains that were great were Doflamingo and depending on how you interpret it, Akainu.
 

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Crocodile is still my favorite villain in One Piece. Everything about him was cool, his devil fruit, his character design like the scar across his face and the hook hand. Doffy was just kind of meh for me. Nothing is worse than Hody though, or the literal joke that was Foxy.
 

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Shudan was average, it gave me a lot of "She's the man" feeling. XD
I'm sure there will be a tournament where she will not able to play unless she pretends that she is a guy because we know that soccer is not a mixed sport. It is not a new idea, but let's see.
 

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Hero Killer Stain would be my choice for best villain between WSJ 2010 and now.
I like my villains either interesting or entertaining, and hen is an interesting one, regarding his world he lives in. I like that he has his own (though twistet) agenda & priniciples, which he follows(even rescuing Deku, bc he was worthy to be called Hero) & by doing this he inspires people. Makes him more interesting & gives him a (dark) grey shade of morality.
I'm more iffy regarding All For One. He is cool, but I dont find him that interesting, or even entertaining. His best moment was, when he revealed the truth of Shigaraki to All Might(which I won't spoil here). I guess, I needed more time of him in action, to be more invested to him. Maybe it would also help, if AFO start to have a connection to Deku. There should be something personal between a protagonist and an antagonist(but I think Shigaraki exist for doing this).

Someone mentioned Pudding, where I need to mention, that she's more of a twist than a villain. I mean, yes, she is a villain, but the most memorable thing about her was that she was acting to be nice. It's less interesting, if she was actually nice, but does this shit thing, bc of her love to Big Mom.
To be honest, I'm curious what happens next to Big Mom. Untill no I wasnt so much interested in her, but I've enjoyed her flashback and how twisted she seems to be. It's just something different than most Naruto villains, where you should feel pity for them, which kills a villain in my eyes. It's not a bad thing to understand a villain, but feeling sympathy isnt something you should to the antagonist.

In the end, I wouldnt say that Stain is the best villain in WSJ of the last years, but of all the villains of WSJ in the last seven years, Stain is the one I remember the most, and that is one way how I rate a villain.
(though it is totally OK, if you rate your villains in another way! Hurray for diversity & different opinions!)
 

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The reason I said AFO over Stain was because I liked how he always knows just what to say to get under All Might's skin. The way he so easily taunted All Might, and took so much pleasure from it, really stuck with me. I personally really like villains that act very casual like that. That's not to say Stain wasn't great though; I really loved him as well.
 

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One Piece villains that were great were Doflamingo and depending on how you interpret it, Akainu.
Doffy was a letdown for me. I've expected more nasty things with his devil fruit powers, for example, controlling Luffy's companions and let him fight against them(yeah he did this with Bellamy, but I didnt care about that guy) and in the end Doffy fought Luffy more with strength, which was not that entertaining.
Aka Inu could be interesting, because I suspect that Oda wants to present him as Oda Nobunaga, less pure evil and more fanatic for justice(which you might think, was AkaInu to bein with, but in the Marineford War & Nico Robin's flashback, we saw him killing innocent people and marine soldiers. I want to see him with his own set of laws, doing something which shows, that he has a grey area of morality).
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The reason I said AFO over Stain was because I liked how he always knows just what to say to get under All Might's skin. The way he so easily taunted All Might, and took so much pleasure from it, really stuck with me. I personally really like villains that act very casual like that. That's not to say Stain wasn't great though; I really loved him as well.
Oh yeah, that was pretty great of AFO, I agree with that. That makes him more interesting.
Personally, I like villains with passion. If they love what they do, it's get much more entertaining.
For example, this Diamond General in BC last arc, the one who could absorbed magic. He was so evil, that it was just silly, but I've enjoyed this(no, I wouldnt call him a good villain, but I've had fun nonetheless).
 

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Have some free time this week since my work schedule is loose as hell for various reasons. Was gonna start either World Trigger or HxH. I know both have animes, I always preferred to watch then read the manga, did the same for MHA. I'll do both but which one should I start first?
 

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Watch HxH (specifically the 2011 anime).

World Trigger's anime is very... Toei. It gets watchable eventually but the manga is already a slower paced series with an eh beginning and Toei's style did not fit it well at all.
 

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Shudan was average, it gave me a lot of "She's the man" feeling. XD
I'm sure there will be a tournament where she will not able to play unless she pretends that she is a guy because we know that soccer is not a mixed sport. It is not a new idea, but let's see.
Dunno how it is in Japan, but when I was in middle school it was quite common for some teams to have a girl or two. We certainly did. If anything, I'd say soccer is more of a mixed sport than most.
 

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WSJ Volume Sales Rankings (5/6-11/6)
1. My Hero Academia 14
39. Hinomaru Zumou 15
79. We Never Learn 1
166. Demon Prince Poro's Diaries 1
301. U19 1
 

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Wtf, HZ made the chart for a 2nd week? Is that a first? The cutoffs have been incredibly low recently though.
 
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