Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2017] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Doughboy]

To be fair, Cross Acct's mc is super bland and looks like a Sims character. I know you guys remember that game. But the girl is really hot and her hair seems really distinct the way he drew her. Artist can definitely draw, you would figure he drew him bland on purpose. I mean shit, the synopsis said he was a lame in real life so guess it fits the story.

 

[ShenGao]

Cross Account's first chapter was one of the worst ones I ever read. There is so much wrong with it it's actually sad how the author achieved to create something like this.
First of all the MC is 100% unlikeable. "I'm so uninteresting that nobody cares about me and my main feature is shit talking online", that's how you can describe him. He tries to act cool after saving a girl by saying "I did it, because I am a man", although 3 pages ago he wanted to run away and justified it with "She is a normie, she deserves it".
The author tries to pander to the Otaku crowd with that MC, but at the same time makes them look like rapists with what happened in the first chapter.
Of course the MC's new online BFF is

Spoiler

the super famous actress he is in love with, because what else could his soulmate he shares so many traits with be. And i predict that next chapter, to everyone's surprise, she will transfer to the MC's school.

 

[Newkerzy]

Even worse than Black Clover? If that's right, then that's quite an achievement.

 

[ChocoBar9]

Leoat12 will still defend it.

Very uninspired first chapter though I think Jump is going to wait until first volume sales to decide whether they want to keep it or not since romcoms/ecchi manga tend to not do well in TOCs in general unless its an outright bomb like Love Rush.

 

[Scruffy8642]

I was gonna say it'll probably survive a round because Marie, Zumou and HxH could potentially end instead. But if its such a bomb, HM will probs survive another round as it'll at least get decent sales because Tamura.

 

[ruggia]

I do wonder how hard Jump was really trying in this round, especially following immediately after the 6-series push. Both Soccer and Rom-Com are one of the worst performing genres for new series in WSJ after all.

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

Finally could read chapter 1 of Cross Account. That can...be interesting. It still heavily reminds me to I''s, Twitter version. And Shudan is actually getting to me (Nanase is also very cute).

 

[HIGAN0]

Jump GIGA 2017 Vol.03 Cover :

 

[G_I_A]

Toc predictions... BC another first position??? MHA out of the top 5? I can dream, right?

 

[Nakura]

WSJ Manga Sales Rankings (12/6-18/6)
4. My Hero Academia 14
146. Hinomaru Zumou 15
278. We Never Learn 1
333. Demon Prince Poro's Diaries 1

30位24250/50位15300/100位7550/200位3850/300位2850/400位2150/500位1800

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MHA out of the top 5? I can dream, right?

MHA is on the cover.

 

[RafaFedKilla]

Cross Account was a lot better than WNL, it's a lot more relatable on a metaphysical level. But you can see how WNL is popular with its sexual frustration fantasies.

 

[Koi Kage]

I skimmed through Cross account and from how it looked to me is that the main character is socially awkward and it will be relate able to people but as others have said series that poke fun like this does usually don't last long, also if the series is going to go with a new transfer student coming in and be a love interest this is going to be sort of a boring series though it's still early in the series life so that may change.

 

[G_I_A]

WSJ Manga Sales Rankings (12/6-18/6)
4. My Hero Academia 14
146. Hinomaru Zumou 15
278. We Never Learn 1
333. Demon Prince Poro's Diaries 1

30位24250/50位15300/100位7550/200位3850/300位2850/400位2150/500位1800

--- Double Post Merged, Jun 20, 2017, Original Post Date: Jun 20, 2017 ---

MHA is on the cover.

Oh sorry I failed... So, MHA on cover, no one piece, HxH is not ranked and HQ is messed up... number 1 will be BC or Kimetsu.

Or maybe Dr. Stone!?

 

[Leoat12]

The point being made is that it wouldnt be difficult to do something with the Male lead to make him interesting and not bland, yet still not perfect. There's middle ground.

What part of "he is bland because it is the intention of the author" you didn't understand? I give up. Come back when you actually read the series, not read with bias.

 

[Xzone]

The series fails in the presentation, failed in make the character real because the author spent too much time defining their cliche personalities with jokes and comic relief that they becomes in jokes themeself(that make me not giving a fuck about the MC) and the attemp to make a scene of the MC changing(with the previous scenes with the poop) is bad and the "it's a normie" thing isn't beliable with the situation(he know the girl for all his live) and the suposse "character developed".
I can understand defending the series that one like, but don't act like this have decent writing.

What part of "he is bland because it is the intention of the author" you didn't understand? I give up. Come back when you actually read the series, not read with bias.

Reading this with your hatebonner of Yuragi is Hilarious.

 

[Leoat12]

Reading this with your hatebonner of Yuragi is Hilarious.

Are you comparing my dislike for ecchi with lack of interpretation skills? One is completely understandable since nobody is obliged to like ecchi. Interpretation skills on the other hand are necessary for someone who calls himself native or fluent in a language. I'm trying to analyze the series while you guys are just saying that the character is bland, something you are already complaining before even reading the series. I say that his blandness is completely understandable given what the author is doing, and you guys insist that he is bland and continue to complain. I know that he is bland, it obvious, but it has a purpose, the character is clearly not likeable, nobody wants to be that way, it is also obvious. And although the manga is a bit exaggerated, most of them are anyway, there are people like that, I know many people who are recluse like that and only talks freely on the internet. This is not unreal, it truly happens, even more when you are talking about Japan, where we all know that this happens, it is often described in mangas, animes and novels.
I don't see why it was not well executed, at least in this first chapter, the series really showed for what it is coming.

For you convince you have to explain why the character blandness doesn't fit the series, why he has to be likeable anyway, and why it is so unreal. If the intention of the author was to do just that, make him bland and unlikeable, I think it was, then we have a good series because the author was able to transmit exactly what the intended.

 

[Xzone]

Are you comparing my dislike for ecchi with lack of interpretation skills?

Soooo being biased for a series for echii is ok but being biased for a serie with bland MC (althougt their point are decent or good) not?
Welp, I didn't think you have a lack of interpretation skills, but this is making me suspect...

I'm trying to analyze the series while you guys are just saying that the character is bland, something you are already complaining before even reading the series. I say that his blandness is completely understandable given what the author is doing, and you guys insist that he is bland and continue to complain

Usually that thing that you try to put in this whole debate need to be with a logical thing: A good writing.It doesn't matter if his blandness has a point if his characterization, dialogue and the whole issue is a mess.I can make a idiot who act like a fool a villain and you will hate it because is a idiot , but is a good villain by default? No, that what TVTropes called 'X-pac heat'.
A good writing is allways needed if you go to that point and Date with this chapter prove he can't do that.
Also, see the first 4 page of Yuragii and the first four page of this series, they say alot of both series.

 

[Kamen Rider Dragon]

I honestly can't even define anything about Daichi other than "Otaku". Like, his blandness has a point in front of other people, but he's supposed to have one outside of school that he's afraid to show so he won't be made fun of. The thing is, it's just that he's an otaku. There was nothing else interesting about him.

 

[savethecat]

I'm enoying Shudon a lot

 

[Mammo]

isn't the guy that defend Cross Account shittiness because "it's real and people do this all the time" the same guy that defended Kishi's Sakura shitty writing because "this is how real girls act" ?

it's a lost cause

oh yeah, since I'm talking about the new series, I'm loving Shoodan, hope Viz keep it around or a group pick it up if they don't