Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2017] - Discussion and TOC Talk

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just to make sure, we're all on the same page here:
We all agree that something will eventually interrupt this tournament, right? I mean, if there is a bigger clichè than a tournament in a manga, than it's that said tournament gets interrupted. Especially, if, as you said in your last post, by repeating the same idea of defending crystals is used, which makes it even more .
And don't misunderstand me: I dont mind these clichès and tropes in manga and anime. They're easy to follow and even if someone is used to them, kind of comfortable to read/watch. There is a reason these clichès and tropes became clichès and tropes in the first place.
And Black Clover is not a bad manga(as long Asta is not in the centre of attention).
But on the other hand, I'm quite curious, if there is a Black Clover fan, who've read last chapter, and reacted like this: "Oh boy another crystal round? BEST.MANGA.EVER!"-without being sarcastic or ironic. I mean, it's not impossible, there are 7 billion humans worldwide, and beautylies in the eye of the beholder. (Just in my opinion, it would be so bizarre, it would be on par with JoJo).

About the latest volume cover of MHA:
Meh. Not a fan of these portrait covers. I think the best one is still the 9th volume cover, which is ironic, bc the villain on this cover is pretty much one of the weakest in the entire manga so far.

Agreed something will interrupt it. About the chapter I think the standalone kyuubasta page caught more attention that anything else.
 

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We all agree that something will eventually interrupt this tournament, right? I mean, if there is a bigger clichè than a tournament in a manga, than it's that said tournament gets interrupted. Especially, if, as you said in your last post, by repeating the same idea of defending crystals is used, which makes it even more .
It's sorta odd to expect a sudden interruption when there's already some scheme going on.
It's just weird that they've actually played through so much of the tournament so far.
 

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Upcoming Reprints:
9/1 - Dr. Stone #1, We Never Learn #1-2
9/8 - Robot x Laserbeam #1, World's End Harem #1-3
9/11 - Black Clover #1-12
9/12 - Kekkai Sensen 1-10 + Back 2 Back 1-2

New Additions to November Volume Releases:
- The Promised Neverland #6
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Tonkatsu DJ Agetarou #11 (Final)
- Tenjin #9
- Machi Koro Match!+ #2 (Final)
- Shokugeki no Soma: L'etoile 5
- Juuni Taisen #1
- Mone-san no Majime Sugiru Tsukiai-kata #1
- Hinmin Choujin Kanenashi-kun #2
Food Fighter Tabelu #6 has been postponed to December.
 

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All BC volumes getting reprints? The beggining of despair...
 

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Isn't that normal for a series just about to receive an anime for the first time. I don't think it really indicates anything noteworthy.
You're right, it's normal. Even so... Let's do a betting game? (mod/admin, can we make this a poll?)

How much Black Clover will sell during/after the anime broadcasting?

1- "Omae wa mou Shindeiru" - The same
2 - "Venerate Veterans" - around 300k (X)
3 - "Despair Thread"- around 500k
4 - "Soul Collector" - more than MHA
5 - "All Hell Breaks Loose" - more than HQ
6 - A Black Piece of Heaven - self-explanatory
 
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To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if it sells about as much if not slightly more than MHA. I think Bones handled MHA first season was somewhat questionable, like breaking the first chapter into 2 episodes.
 

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My guess is that Black Clover will sell between two and three, so about 400k per volume. What will be more interesting is where Black Clover will chart when it comes to the Oricon sales for next year. I think it is very possible that it will outsell MHA for the total sales for next year. It depends on how strong its backlog sales will be.
 

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Why were we talking about Rindo in the TOC Thread????

BC sales will depend on well they can sell a Harry Potter X Naruto crossover fanfiction to the Japanese and American audience.
 

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All BC volumes getting reprints? The beggining of despair...
All "We Never Learn" volumes getting reprints? The beginning of despair... :3c
You got "beginning" wrong there, should I call Yuiga to give you some lessons? :derp


I'm about to buy my volumes, so it is good that I will not have any problems buying them because of stock.
 

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Why were we talking about Rindo in the TOC Thread????

BC sales will depend on well they can sell a Harry Potter X Naruto crossover fanfiction to the Japanese and American audience.
I think it's more accurate to call it Fairy Tail x Naruto. The type of "magic" in BC and FT are very different from HP. Also, I doubt the western audiences reception will matter much considering how small it is in comparison.
 

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You're right, it's normal. Even so... Let's do a betting game? (mod/admin, can we make this a poll?)

How much Black Clover will sell during/after the anime broadcasting?

1- "Omae wa mou Shindeiru" - The same
2 - "Venerate Veterans" - around 300k (X)
3 - "Despair Thread"- around 500k
4 - "Soul Collector" - more than MHA
5 - "All Hell Breaks Loose" - more than HQ
6 - A Black Piece of Heaven - self-explanatory



Is what I would hope but option 2 is most probable.

I'm betting on around 300k range.
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All BC volumes getting reprints? The beggining of despair...
It's normal when an anime arrives. Notice how Kekkai Sensen is getting one for it's second season.
 

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You're right, it's normal. Even so... Let's do a betting game? (mod/admin, can we make this a poll?)

How much Black Clover will sell during/after the anime broadcasting?

1- "Omae wa mou Shindeiru" - The same
2 - "Venerate Veterans" - around 300k (X)
3 - "Despair Thread"- around 500k
4 - "Soul Collector" - more than MHA
5 - "All Hell Breaks Loose" - more than HQ
6 - A Black Piece of Heaven - self-explanatory
Around 300k - 400k
I do not see Black Clover pass MHA.
But it is not impossible.
 

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What was Black Clover anime studio and timeslot again? I want to see whether the affirmations here have any sense or not.
 

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To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if it sells about as much if not slightly more than MHA. I think Bones handled MHA first season was somewhat questionable, like breaking the first chapter into 2 episodes.
How an manga is adapted usually doesn't effect how it sells (see piss poor adaptations such as Toriko, World Trigger and Tokyo Ghoul)
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What was Black Clover anime studio and timeslot again? I want to see whether the affirmations here have any sense or not.
Pierrot and Tuesdays evenings (same timeslot as Bleach)
 

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@EmDee Western Audiences can matter, like with OP, HQ, and BnHA.
 

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Haikyuu is popular in the west? That's news to me. There are hardly any threads on 4chan even when an anime is airing. Also, it took forever for there to be an English volume release.
 

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Pierrot and Tuesdays evenings (same timeslot as Bleach)
I presume this is a good slot then although there is all the polemic around Bleach anime... Black Clover is nearly as popular Bleach was when the anime started, I suppose, so maybe it can reach 300k~400k during the anime and maintain a 300k~ after it.
 

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I presume this is a good slot then although there is all the polemic around Bleach anime... Black Clover is nearly as popular Bleach was when the anime started, I suppose, so maybe it can reach 300k~400k during the anime and maintain a 300k~ after it.
I actually heard otherwise. This timeslot is apparently bad but I'll wait for someone that's knowledgeable with timeslots to correct me.

400k is a stretch but I see 300k's, especially if the timeslot is one that's not so great.
 

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Upcoming Reprints:
9/1 - Dr. Stone #1, We Never Learn #1-2
9/8 - Robot x Laserbeam #1, World's End Harem #1-3
9/11 - Black Clover #1-12
9/12 - Kekkai Sensen 1-10 + Back 2 Back 1-2

New Additions to November Volume Releases:
- The Promised Neverland #6
-
Tonkatsu DJ Agetarou #11 (Final)
- Tenjin #9
- Machi Koro Match!+ #2 (Final)
- Shokugeki no Soma: L'etoile 5
- Juuni Taisen #1
- Mone-san no Majime Sugiru Tsukiai-kata #1
- Hinmin Choujin Kanenashi-kun #2
Food Fighter Tabelu #6 has been postponed to December.
Looked over it since it passed already, but Aharen-san got a reprint on Aug 25th.
Play Ball 2 #1 is getting a reprint on 9/5.

Haikyuu!! JP Audience Age to Gender Ratio
Left is female, right is male.
 
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