Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2017] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Caiops]

which season are you talking about?

Tokyo Ghoul
Type: TV
Episodes: 12
Status: Finished Airing
Aired: Jul 4, 2014

07/06/14 Tokyo Ghoul vol 8 chapter 74-75 by Twisted Hel Scans

You are right, after some episodes they started translate faster.

 

[Mammo]

there's no GFC participants anymore so we don't have people to judge their shit tastes

so I translated the new series mangaka introductions from their oneshots

Genki Ono (Fulldrive)
favorite manga: Ushio to Tora, Gash Bell

2 battle shonen classics from Sunday, why are you in Jump and why are you doing a sport manga?

Gen Oosuka (Golem Hearts)
favorite manga: Parasyte, H2, Slam Dunk, Kiyoku Yawaku

this guy is trying to win best taste competition? also did he actually read Kiyoku Yawaku or did he just watch the live action movie?
in any case there is already huge expectations from you guys for GH and I think this will make them even bigger

 

[Bomber D Rufi]

The first chapter of Tomatoy Poodle (Tomatoypoo no Lycopin) raw:
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/5359225321

This is almost definitely a kodomo manga. Its literally written like it was for 4 year olds. The dialogue is almost more childish then Kemono Friends. It also throws in a huge amount of references especially actors and the like and if you're not aware of them, you'll not get it. The main girl, Amato Meme also doesn't get it. Its a parallel world called Cutopia (with root cute) where candy and the like grow off of trees. The main girl gets back to her world by strongly wishing to go back. This is almost plushie fodder. The main character is a Toy Poodle that was born from the seedling of a tomato plant. If this somehow made it, you'd definitely see this on TV Tokyo's long running daytime slot. I'm not entirely sure how long this will last but, time will tell.

Although it is pretty childish, this is exactly what I think Sorachi of Gintama would come up with if the Shuiesha executives were to tell him he's in charge of the next mascot toy-line, lol. As Iceemperor said it's more the dialog that makes this funny/work than the pictures, and it is generally pretty funny. I'm positive the whole point of this was to draw people in with the cute artstyle and then obliterate it with the dialog, lol. I don't think I'd go as far as calling it a kids manga, but it is childish but funny in a sense of "I can't believe they're saying that using this art style." I mean they even refer to the Moritomo Gakuen scandal (the forest the critters live in is Mori no tomodachi gakuen, and when shortened it's "Moritomo Gakuen.") So while it is definitely supposed to look like a kiddy series, the humor is a pay-grade above that.

I doubt Viz would pick this up full time if they're going to run it through their jump starts, but I'll be paying attention to it regardless.

 

[tirakai]

Does Sunday even have battle shounen anymore? Now that Magi's done. Plus the magazine in general has taken an enormous hit over the past decade or so, I can see a fan of old Sunday action stuff trying for jump instead (but yeah I don't know why it's sports, this feels like Galaxy Gangs guy all over again).

 

[HIGAN0]

 

[xAsum0x]

there's no GFC participants anymore so we don't have people to judge their shit tastes

so I translated the new series mangaka introductions from their oneshots

Genki Ono (Fulldrive)
favorite manga: Ushio to Tora, Gash Bell

2 battle shonen classics from Sunday, why are you in Jump and why are you doing a sport manga?

Gen Oosuka (Golem Hearts)
favorite manga: Parasyte, H2, Slam Dunk, Kiyoku Yawaku

this guy is trying to win best taste competition? also did he actually read Kiyoku Yawaku or did he just watch the live action movie?
in any case there is already huge expectations from you guys for GH and I think this will make them even bigger

I usually could care less about this but any Slam Dunk fan is a friend of mine

 

[Torca]

Genki could be pretty discouraged to go to Sunday when mangaka of his favourite manga got a serious beef there. I didn't read his oneshot but it didn't strike to me to be inspired by those two that much? Maybe that just doesn't suit him so he's trying a sport series.

Top taste from Gen, I like these two newbies.

 

[Leoat12]

Are you guys forgetting that liking a series and making something with the same quality is like the distance between the Sun and Earth? I also like Slam Dunk, does it make me a genius like Inoue? Of course not.
In short: I couldn't care less about their favorites.

 

[WyldViolet]

Are you guys forgetting that liking a series and making something with the same quality is like the distance between the Sun and Earth? I also like Slam Dunk, does it make me a genius like Inoue? Of course not.
In short: I couldn't care less about their favorites.

Yeah. Don't we remember that everyone is equally a good writer so tastes or experience are irrelevant!

 

[tirakai]

Seeing writer's tastes in series does matter, it gives an indication of what kind of series they're more likely to try their hand at. If someone's only into big action-packed jump battle shounen then chances are that's what they're going to want to write, if someone prefers slower paced character-focused that's probably what their own series will be like, and so on.

It's not about judging quality, it's making a guess at what their series structure and focus might be like (also it's just fun to poke fun at people's tastes sometimes).

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

Haven't been giving atention this week. Any new info about Golem Hearts and Fulldrive?

 

[Leoat12]

Seeing writer's tastes in series does matter, it gives an indication of what kind of series they're more likely to try their hand at. If someone's only into big action-packed jump battle shounen then chances are that's what they're going to want to write, if someone prefers slower paced character-focused that's probably what their own series will be like, and so on.

It's not about judging quality, it's making a guess at what their series structure and focus might be like (also it's just fun to poke fun at people's tastes sometimes).

I will use Komi Naoshi as an example because I know him more than any author. I remembered that he said his favorites at some point, so I decided to look for it.

See any romance there? Despite that, he did two romances! His oneshots are also full of romance!
He has an excellent taste by the way, but it doesn't make me like him more than I already do. His work is what makes me like him as an author.

 

[WyldViolet]

Seeing writer's tastes in series does matter, it gives an indication of what kind of series they're more likely to try their hand at. If someone's only into big action-packed jump battle shounen then chances are that's what they're going to want to write, if someone prefers slower paced character-focused that's probably what their own series will be like, and so on.

It's not about judging quality, it's making a guess at what their series structure and focus might be like (also it's just fun to poke fun at people's tastes sometimes).

It can give a look into their mindset as well.
I'd imagine someone who lists their favorites as like; Hunter x Hunter and Oyasumi Punpun are more likely to be coming from what I'd consider a more emotionally and intellectually chaotic perspective than one who would list theirs as Black Clover and Fairy Tail.

Tastes influence an artist a lot.
Look at the unmistakable influence Douglas Sirk and Reiner Werner Fassbinder had on Todd Haynes whom he has openly talked about being his favorite (along with Fassbinder saying the same of Sirk). All three had young lives rife with trauma and feelings of ostraciation. All three were wildly intelligent and had a firm grasp on humanity and the fraudulence of it (yet still present it in their own unique way)

In manga within Jump we can look on the clear influence Togashi has had on The Promised Neverland and Kimetsu no Yaiba.

I like to find artists on a similar wave length to me, and their tastes can help you discern if that's the case.

 

[Caiops]

How well Black Clover older volumes are doing?

I don't any see of them on Amazon.jp rankings, looks like Black Clover won't have any boost.

 

[Halloween]

How well Black Clover older volumes are doing?

I don't any of them on Amazon.jp rankings, looks like Black Clover won't have any boost.

It takes a few episodes before you see the full effect of the sales boost.

 

[Xzone]

I will use Komi Naoshi as an example because I know him more than any author. I remembered that he said his favorites at some point, so I decided to look for it.

See any romance there? Despite that, he did two romances! His oneshots are also full of romance!
He has an excellent taste by the way, but it doesn't make me like him more than I already do. His work is what makes me like him as an author.

It's not about the genre he does it's about the style and how it's define.
Furudate like Tekkon Kinkreet , and you can see thing like in how he threat the character and sometimes in the art(I remember various moment in the last match that the public feels more that it was draw by Matsumoto).
And I don't remember well Double arts, but I remember than Komi was going to the action route but was axed.

 

[Tamil]

 

[HIGAN0]

 

[Nakura]

I hope there will be news on Kimetsu no Yaiba's physical release too.

 

[Leoat12]

VIZ has to learn to release things before the series loses its charm, it was the same with My Hero Academia and now with TPN.
My Hero Academia was extraordinary in the beginning and I really wanted to buy the manga in the past, but now all the excitement is gone and the series has been rather boring recently. The same for TPN, the escape was not good for business, it lost its charm.