Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2017] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[SharkBait]

Reasonable explanation for no jump festa presence is there was no pv or teaser to show in time.

 

[Tanzo]

Reasonable explanation for no jump festa presence is there was no pv or teaser to show in time.

Seems plausible. Though then again, Black Clover got an announcement at JF and didn't reveal anything but the studio there.

 

[De La Croissant]

What are you talking about, the cover and last color page looked great? What do you want specifically? xD

The best thing about TPN illustrations is the composition. A mix between dark and innocence. Posuka is very creative in that regard. But in the last covers and CP everything was too... normal. Far from bad, but also far from great.

 

[ChocoBar9]

Reasonable explanation for no jump festa presence is there was no pv or teaser to show in time.

In almost every announce they made they literally on had splash images of the manga to confirm that there's an anime in the works. They probably just didn't care.

 

[Luca11]

When do we think HZ's gonna air? I'd much prefer late 2018-early 2019, since otherwise it's gonna be drown out by other sports series.

 

[cody]

The best thing about TPN illustrations is the composition. A mix between dark and innocence. Posuka is very creative in that regard. But in the last covers and CP everything was too... normal. Far from bad, but also far from great.

I mean, not every TPN illustration has to have a dark feel to it, Posuka probably decided to mix it up a little bit, she can't have every illustration for TPN to have a hint of darkness. Maybe she's trying to convey a sense of hope with the latest cover, a little bit of stability after all the despair. The last color page was holiday themed and I think there was also something similar last year, that was also lighthearted.

--- Double Post Merged, Dec 27, 2017, Original Post Date: Dec 27, 2017 ---

When do we think HZ's gonna air? I'd much prefer late 2018-early 2019, since otherwise it's gonna be drown out by other sports series.

It will most likely start airing in 2018. I don't think other sports series will matter anyway, you can't really stop other shows from being produced. Even if the anime starts airing in late 2018-early 2019 like you want it to, you can't know if those months won't be filled up with other sports anime or not.

 

[Tanzo]

49327 *571449 ハ
22451 2247761 Ｏ
20457 *203018 ブ
17673 **17673 Ｏ　総
16569 *179569 銀
-
12015 *301502 約6
11081 *440207 約1
11075 *537078 僕
10911 *121640 鬼
*9862 *416401 約2
*9099 *341000 約5
*9049 *385128 約3
*8452 *365567 約4
*8325 **86339 Ｒ

Weekly Sales (12/18-12/24)
49327 *571449 Haikyuu 29
22451 2247761 One Piece 87
20457 *203018 Black Clover 14
17673 **17673 Ｏ　総 - don't know what this is
16569 *179569 Gintama 71
-
12015 *301502 Neverland 6
11081 *440207 Neverland 1
11075 *537078 MHA 16
10911 *121640 Kimetsu 9
*9862 *416401 Neverland 2
*9099 *341000 Neverland 5
*9049 *385128 Neverland 3
*8452 *365567 Neverland 4
*8325 **86339 RxL 3

 

[cody]

Weekly Sales (12/18-12/24)
49327 *571449 Haikyuu 29
22451 2247761 One Piece 87
20457 *203018 Black Clover 14
17673 **17673 Ｏ　総 - don't know what this is
16569 *179569 Gintama 71
-
12015 *301502 Neverland 6
11081 *440207 Neverland 1
11075 *537078 MHA 16
10911 *121640 Kimetsu 9
*9862 *416401 Neverland 2
*9099 *341000 Neverland 5
*9049 *385128 Neverland 3
*8452 *365567 Neverland 4
*8325 **86339 RxL 3

Wow! The Neverland Kono Sugoi boost is still going really strong! Good to see Kimetsu get to the 120k mark.

Edit: I don't know, are those good numbers for Black Clover? How's the anime boost going for it?

 

[Tanzo]

Wow! The Neverland Kono Sugoi boost is still going really strong! Good to see Kimetsu get to the 120k mark.

Edit: I don't know, are those good numbers for Black Clover? How's the anime boost going for it?

From Vol 11
107704 (6)│136682│150383│------│------┃*,150,383 (*20)┃2017/05｜ブラッククローバー 11
This vol
140431 (7)│182561│203018│------│------┃*,203,018 (*21)┃2017/12｜ブラッククローバー 14
Sales have definitely increased a bit.

 

[Reigen]

Seems plausible. Though then again, Black Clover got an announcement at JF and didn't reveal anything but the studio there.

Black Clover had a special episode (by studio Xebec) screened at Jump Festa that time.

 

[De La Croissant]

I mean, not every TPN illustration has to have a dark feel to it, Posuka probably decided to mix it up a little bit, she can't have every illustration for TPN to have a hint of darkness. Maybe she's trying to convey a sense of hope with the latest cover, a little bit of stability after all the despair. The last color page was holiday themed and I think there was also something similar last year, that was also lighthearted.

The "A mix between dark and innocence" was just an example of composition. Even when it comes to a more cheerful mood she could be more inventive than "all the kids sitting and smiling". But, anyway, I've always liked the CPs more. The covers have always been pretty basic.

 

[cody]

The "A mix between dark and innocence" was just an example of composition. Even when it comes to a more cheerful mood she could be more inventive than "all the kids sitting and smiling". But, anyway, I've always liked the CPs more. The covers have always been pretty basic.

You have a point. I agree, the color pages have been pretty awesome overall and I also liked them more than the covers. And I also agree about the covers, there are I would say 2 that are absolutely breathtaking and the rest are fine for the most part.

 

[ShenGao]

Edit: I don't know, are those good numbers for Black Clover? How's the anime boost going for it?

It's the first time BC broke the 200k mark while still being in the Top 50. But with 3 weeks and 14 volumes I don't know if that's so good.
For comparison:

• World Trigger broke the 200k mark the first time with 4 weeks of sales for it's 9th volume
• Shokugeki no Soma broke the 200k mark the first time with 2 weeks of sales for it's 2nd volume
• Boku no Hero Academia broke the 200k mark the first time with 2 weeks of sales for it's 2nd volume
• The Promised Neverland broke the 200k mark the first time with 3 weeks of sales for it's 4th volume

 

[cody]

So, BC is a successful series, but it probably should've been doing better at this point? That's my conclusion.

 

[OfficialHxH]

When do we think HZ's gonna air? I'd much prefer late 2018-early 2019, since otherwise it's gonna be drown out by other sports series.

I think itll be a fall anime

--- Double Post Merged, Dec 27, 2017, Original Post Date: Dec 27, 2017 ---

Weekly Sales (12/18-12/24)
49327 *571449 Haikyuu 29
22451 2247761 One Piece 87
20457 *203018 Black Clover 14
17673 **17673 Ｏ　総 - don't know what this is
16569 *179569 Gintama 71
-
12015 *301502 Neverland 6
11081 *440207 Neverland 1
11075 *537078 MHA 16
10911 *121640 Kimetsu 9
*9862 *416401 Neverland 2
*9099 *341000 Neverland 5
*9049 *385128 Neverland 3
*8452 *365567 Neverland 4
*8325 **86339 RxL 3

What do the numbers on the left mean?

 

[DyanSon]

It's the first time BC broke the 200k mark while still being in the Top 50. But with 3 weeks and 14 volumes I don't know if that's so good.
For comparison:

• World Trigger broke the 200k mark the first time with 4 weeks of sales for it's 9th volume
• Shokugeki no Soma broke the 200k mark the first time with 2 weeks of sales for it's 2nd volume
• Boku no Hero Academia broke the 200k mark the first time with 2 weeks of sales for it's 2nd volume
• The Promised Neverland broke the 200k mark the first time with 3 weeks of sales for it's 4th volume

It's good but not so good I think?

 

[Doughboy]

Starting to get worried that when Neverland becomes mainstream w/ an anime it'll be the one series you say any little thing bad about it and its fandom will turn into Mr. Krabs and devour your life. The HxH effect, but HxH is just a better series imo.

 

[ShenGao]

So, BC is a successful series, but it probably should've been doing better at this point? That's my conclusion.

It's good but not so good I think?

I would guess it's doing ok, but not even close to what the editors hoped for. They wanted BC to become the next Naruto (whatever that means), but so far it's sales aren't even a fraction of Naruto's and it's "popularity" in the west is meager.

 

[Luca11]

I think itll be a fall anime

--- Double Post Merged, Dec 27, 2017, Original Post Date: Dec 27, 2017 ---

What do the numbers on the left mean?

They are the number of sales last week; the ones on the right are total sales.

 

[ElJin]

Speaking of Jump Festa, if it really just was an OVA, they truly would've only announced that there, don't you think? It wouldn't make sense for it to be a movie. It has enough material to work with, Saiki also took a long time to get an anime and it was a TV series, same for Ass Class. Sure, both Saiki and Ass Class were more successful than HZ, but HZ is still a series from WSJ like those two. OK, let's say it is only an OVA, from what I remember, every WSJ series that got an OVA adaptation first did eventually get a TV anime.

I agree with you, and like I said, I'm expecting and hoping for a TV Anime too. Just saying that we can be surprised.