Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2018] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Nakura]

Yonkou vs Heiji boxing match when?

To be fair, Heiji also said earlier in the thread that it wasn't 100% confirmed... not that I wouldn't watch that match of course.

 

[ChocoBar9]

All time favorites
1. Slam Dunk - Not only the best sports manga to be serialize in Jump but one of the greatest sports manga period. Slam Dunk is my favorite manga and one that I revisit once and a while to this day. No other sports manga has come close to its quality and probably never will.
2. Hikaru no Go - The most well-written and emotionally satisfying manga I've ever read from Jump, its sad that HnG has vanished from everyone's memories despite how big it was back when it first serialized.
3. One Piece - The shounen manga to end all shounen manga that captures everything to love about the genre. OP is a shounen manga for shounen lovers and its enduring popularity 20 years later is a testament to its quality as a manga.
4. Rokudenashi Blues - Any time Jump makes a manga to tackle on the current trends of an era they always strike gold and this was their premiere "yankee" manga during the period where it was everywhere in pop-culture.
5. Hunter x Hunter - "The thinking man's battle shounen". Really the series showcases how far you can take a shounen manga if you're allowed to flex your own creativity and not cater to specific audiences. HxH is a Togashi manga first and a shounen manga second.
6. Hokuto no Ken - The saying is true "never judge a book by its cover". On the surface HnK is just a macho, ultra-violent comic no different from those schlocky B-movies of a different era....and it is! But through its underlining pages lies some of the most engrossing and memorable moments in shounen history that its no surprise why it was the manga that defined the Golden Age of Jump.
7. Jojo's Bizarre Adventure - There's very few manga that tends to evolve in terms of writing and art like Jojo and what essentially started as a clone of another popular manga grew into its own unique style that's arguably more recognizable to modern audiences than the latter but its the ever changing story that keeps it fresh 30 years later.
8. Houshin Engin - This is without a doubt the most underrated Jump manga ever and its own lack fanfare can be blame on being serialized in an era which couldn't appreciate how novel it was at the time and given that no Jump manga has taken on the same sentiments it'll stay that way.
9. Kinnikuman - Whether it be pirates, ninjas or yankees Jump always seem to hop on the latest trends and make instant smash hits and when wrestling was big in the 80's along came Kinnikuman the second biggest title in the 80's and the most entertaining roller coaster rides to grace the magazine. Nisei and the recent continuation didn't really capture of the same same magic as the original.
10. Gintama/Saiki Kusuo no Ψ-nan - This is a bit of a cheat since one manga just ended and another is about to end but these two are really my favorite gag manga from Jump. Saiki had a great run and never dipped in quality throughout its 6 years in the magazine and Gintama is the reason why I became a huge weeb to begin with given all the references and potshots it had made to other manga and Japanese culture I would have never even read Saiki or be interested in Japanese pop culture if it wasn't for Gintama.

Runner-ups
Haikyuu - If Slam Dunk is the best sports manga in Jump than Haikyuu can very much be a close second if it keeps it up
World Trigger - Another outlier manga that I enjoy for seeming combing two genres Jump is famous for (battle shounen and sports) into an ideal package that begs the question WHY DIDN'T I THINK OF THAT?!
My Hero Academia - Like One Piece MHA is a shounen manga for shounen lovers made by an author who's knowledgeable of conventions of the genre and knows how to use them but with a distinct Western influence that makes it stand out.
Kimetsu - On the surface Kimetsu feels like your average shounen manga but as you go on you begin to see beneath the conventions is a very unique series that couldn't have come from anyone else.
Naruto - Get the laughs out now but despite the inevitable drop in quality that befall many ongoing series Naruto managed to do the impossible and make an initially compelling manga about ninjas in a time where they were seen as nothing but jokes in the eyes of Japanese kids and became a global phenomenon and the third best selling manga of all time. Its also the first manga I grew up with as it was running in Jump from beginning to end.
Hinomaru Zumo - Unfortunately Zumo isn't turning kids around to Sumo wrestling as Naruto did with Ninjas but for what is essentially the "editorial department's favorite" manga its actually really good.
Ninku - The series Naruto initially ripped off wound out being significantly better albeit short-lived in comparison. This was still a time where Ninjas were sill seen as jokes to Japanese kids so the rule of cool was to make than act as un-ninja like as possible to appeal to them.
Rookies - I didn't love Rookies as much as I did Rokudenashi Blues but it still followed the same conventions that made the latter work so well and hold true to this one.

Snubs
Death Note - This manga doesn't hold up well and despite having among the best art to ever grace the magazine its nothing but pages of word bubbles and this isn't even touching the writing itself but despite all that it did have a strong premise and one that stuck in the minds of people 15 years later so with that said its pretty much the manga that defined the 00s era of Jump
Yuyu Hakusho - For a series that gets as much notoriety and acclaim as this it only really has one solid arc and suffer from the same tired tropes of the genre that you wouldn't expect from the man behind HxH.
Bakuman - Wasted potential is a term that gets thrown around a lot but doesn't really convey anything that could describe a series that started strong but couldn't stick the landing but in Bakuman's case it fell off the platform and broke its neck before the end.
Assassination Classroom - The surprise hit of the decade was surprisingly very limp and with better writing could have been the premiere title of the decade but alas it's gone the way of big hits nobody remembers anymore.
Dragonball - I'm of the opinion that every series that was inspired by DB did something to improve on its formula since as of whole the manga gets really messy when Toriyama traded Chinese folklore for Western Science Fiction but as a whole he knew how to entertain his audience up until it ended hence why its back on top again over 30 years later .
Beelzebub - I know a lot of people who love this manga but I could never get into it, the art is very bleh much like the humor and it handles tropes seen in battle shouen very sloppily but given some reactions I guess that's the joke that its not a very good one.
Shaman King - I know for a lot of people this series is to them as Naruto is to me though not nearly as good hence why they can bypass its many flaws and stomach two bad endings and a meh shortlived sequel.

 

[OfficialHxH]

HxH is a Togashi manga first and a shounen manga second.

Truer words have never been said.

 

[SharkBait]

Yonkou vs Heiji boxing match when?

Heiji is not a youtuber, so heiji is already getting my support, and the proven track record of accuracy from makes me a Heiji loyalist.

 

[Caiops]

Production I.G just getting LOTGH done so they can start the production of RobotxLaserbeam anime.

 

[shoyoboyo]

Is there a confirmed episode count?

 

[shoyoboyo]

Are they planning on readapting the entire original anime? If so, 12 episodes and 4 movies sounds like way too little.

 

[ChocoBar9]

Are they planning on readapting the entire original anime? If so, 12 episodes and 4 movies sounds like way too little.

From what's been said they're going to be more faithful to the novels but won't be nearly as dense as the original.

 

[SharkBait]

Are they planning on readapting the entire original anime? If so, 12 episodes and 4 movies sounds like way too little.

Pray for it to get tons of new fans with this much improved character design and direction, a nd for it to get multiple seasons like Space Battleship Yamato successfully managed to do for its modern day revival.

 

[Heiji]

Yonkou have access to Jump, me i just get information from baidu. People who post message is legit, but everyone make mistake look like^^
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/5610918996?pid=118789926818&cid=&red_tag=3304534035#118789926818

 

[De La Croissant]

Assassination Classroom - The surprise hit of the decade was surprisingly very limp and with better writing could have been the premiere title of the decade but alas it's gone the way of big hits nobody remembers anymore.

Of all the titles that the WSJ released, AssClass was undoubtedly my biggest disappointment. It's the story of a super-fast octopus giving classes to killers who need to defend the world while also trying to pass the exams and be better people. And it's forgettable. Far from trash. Far from great. Forgettable. Matsui is a ballless Araki, a toothless Togashi.

Production I.G just getting LOTGH done so they can start the production of RobotxLaserbeam anime.

The visual is kinda meh. They seem made of plastic.

 

[OfficialHxH]

Yonkou have access to Jump, me i just get information from baidu. People who post message is legit, but everyone make mistake look like^^
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/5610918996?pid=118789926818&cid=&red_tag=3304534035#118789926818

We still appreciate both you and Yonkou man. Yall do a lot for the community so many thanks

 

[iceemperor]

Togashi gave another interesting comment:
[中学生東京駅伝の実況解説が楽しくて何回も聞いている。増田明美さん好き。義博]
This translates to "The live commentary for the Middle school Tokyo Ekiden is really fun so I'm listening to it multiple times. I like Masuda Akemi." The Middle school Tokyo Ekiden is a relay race for 2nd year middle schoolers. Masuda Akemi, if I got the right one, is a retired runner who probably does commentary. Its rather interesting to see what he does either during work or on his off time.
There is a tiny part of me that is worried due to past cases but oh well....

 

[OfficialHxH]

Togashi gave another interesting comment:
[中学生東京駅伝の実況解説が楽しくて何回も聞いている。増田明美さん好き。義博]
This translates to "The live commentary for the Middle school Tokyo Ekiden is really fun so I'm listening to it multiple times. I like Masuda Akemi." The Middle school Tokyo Ekiden is a relay race for 2nd year middle schoolers. Masuda Akemi, if I got the right one, is a retired runner who probably does commentary. Its rather interesting to see what he does either during work or on his off time.
There is a tiny part of me that is worried due to past cases but oh well....

Im just surprised this week he didnt mention anything about Keyakizaka46

 

[shoyoboyo]

Speaking of author comments, someone on the World Trigger subreddit recently posted this interesting string of events.

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

Yuuna-san anime for this summer season was announced in January or in announcement with new seiyuus that was earlier today?

 

[cody]

Speaking of author comments, someone on the World Trigger subreddit recently posted this interesting string of events.

What the fuck? That shit is scary, man.

 

[ChocoBar9]

Speaking of author comments, someone on the World Trigger subreddit recently posted this interesting string of events.

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

HxH longest hiatus ever was 80 issues out.

World Trigger right now has been 65 issues out (66 this week).

 

[TyVip]

^ Still should box yonkou though. I can train you Heiji.
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Stealing the template because why not
"What would be your most 10 Jump enjoyable manga of all time?"

1. One Piece – When I started the SHs already at New World. Needless to say if I didn’t enjoy it I would not catch up to it. The question now is not whether when One Piece will end, but will you live long enough to see the ending of One Piece.
2. Eyeshield21 – I will never see a Hiruma anti hero ever again in Jump. Senkuu won’t cut it because BOICHI. I have an annual reread of Eyeshield every 2 years. I need Murata back in Jump ASAP.
3. Dragonball - Nostalgia. Android 18 is bae.
4. JJBA – Its plot structure is very similar to August Wilson “Pittsburgh Cycle” play. JJBA evolved every part. Although there are some deux ex machina in almost every part starting at part 3, I still enjoy it very much. Also, nobody understands part 5 that’s for sure lol. Tequilla Joseph best JoJo fight me.
5. Houshin Engi - there will be never a Taikoubou in Jump FeelsSuperBad man.
6. Hokuto no Ken – Big Muscles
7. Bakuman – Love the way they portrait manga creation through the eyes of a mangaka. Similar to the other manga about manga creation through the eyes of an editor. It makes me appreciate manga more
8. Sket Dance – It is very heartwarming despite being a gag. It is still a poor man Gintama according to Gintoki though
9. Dr Slump – Toriyama’s prime, part of the Golden Age. Still actually need to finish it however. Easy to pick up any volume and start reading.
10. To Love Ru – It’s a man manga what more can I say.


Runner Up:
Toriko, Naruto, Orange Road, Prince of Tennis

On the verge of being a snub:
Shokugeki no Soma: From 100 to almost a negative 0.

Snubs:
MHA: Read up to the beginning of Hideout Raid arc but still can’t get to it, remember like 5 names total. But the current arc with Count Gentle and that cute villain is intereting so I might try to catch up during spring break, doubt it though. Took me 2 years to finished Toriko lol.
Mx0: Never get the hype, series is bad.
Psyren: Psyren in 2018 LuL.

Too new to judge:
TPN, Yuuna

Rest i don't read or haven't read or can't remember.