Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2018] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Belkac3m]

Some of them are probably assistants

I hadn't thought about it lol
I would say the most of them are assistants, preparing their serialization

 

[Drmke]

do they work

Obviously. I don't know how capitalism works in Japan, but I can't picture a scenario where people don't work and don't starve to death or end up homeless.

 

[SharkBait]

There are only less than 20 places for all these mangaka waiting to be published. What are they doing this time? do they work

jump+ exists

 

[Belkac3m]

Obviously. I don't know how capitalism works in Japan, but I can't picture a scenario where people don't work and don't starve to death or end up homeless.

You are right.
I meant a work other than drawing, some mangaka have their own profession, but it'irs difficult to prepare for a serialization while working.

The income from their old works (axed after 20 or 30 chapters) should be very low to survive.

 

[TyVip]

I have not seen a single cancelled manga whether 12 chapters or less than two years that were unjustified. They were either bad (opinion) or unenjoyable. I eventually read them all and now i think they are a waste of my time.

3+ years is a different story.

 

[SharkBait]

They were either bad (opinion) or enjoyable. I eventually read them all and now i think they are a waste of my time.

They were enjoyable, but you think they were a waste of time? I think Im not understanding that which you are saying.

 

[TyVip]

They were enjoyable, but you think they were a waste of time? I think Im not understanding that which you are saying.

*Unenjoyable

 

[ruggia]

You are right.
I meant a work other than drawing, some mangaka have their own profession, but it'irs difficult to prepare for a serialization while working.

The income from their old works (axed after 20 or 30 chapters) should be very low to survive.

For Jump authors, they have contracts that earn them a stable salary for a few years while they try to come up with something new.

 

[cody]

For Jump authors, they have contracts that earn them a stable salary for a few years while they try to come up with something new.

For how long does the contract last? They can't pay them forever(the mangaka with failed serializations).

 

[Galactic Tomahawk]

Uhh lesse for me it probably would've been Bokke-san, Takamagahara or Soul Catcher(S).

Jump seems like they were invested enough in Soul Catcher(S) to give it a proper send off at least but I wish we could've seen more of the other two.

Or even something new from the Takamagahara guy he just kinda vanished.

 

[OfficialHxH]

Let's remember the MAN.

Beelzebub was one of my favorites in Jump but sadly it did get kind of boring at the end. I wish they would reboot the anime. The manga was so good mane.

 

[TyVip]

Mangaka without actice series work as assistant. Seen it 3 times in manga and couple in real life (the assistants chart a while back)

While working as an assistant they also prepare for serialization. Again both real life and in manga (Oda as assistant, Toriko’s author too in interview and produce numerous one shot, Bakuman, Juhan shutaii)

Would not be surprise if they have a one year contract, more would just be bad in general (stuck in one company)

 

[iceemperor]

Would not be surprise if they have a one year contract, more would just be bad in general (stuck in one company)

While I don't know about other publishers, Shueisha, or at least the Jump department, is rather nice to its artists as seen in the Tsukuda interview. Jump will release a tankoubon which means royalties, however little, to the mangaka. They also help with living expenses and necessities as needed. Also there seems to be 2 year cycle between a mangaka being cancelled and then coming back again. Yokota is about the only person I can think off the top of my head that came back within 6 months. Ikezawa went almost 2 years between Mononofu and Noah's Notes. Even Horikoshi and Tabata had about 2 years between their previous series and their current series. I don't think Jump wants to let these people go though they will go if they want to but its probably not a bad deal to be stuck unless you have multiple series that failed to take off.

 

[De La Croissant]

There are those titles that, although they are good, as soon as they start we already know that they were not made for the magazine. Ex: Cross Manage, Shuudan.

There are those titles that are perfect for the magazine but do nothing to stand out in terms of storytelling. Ex: Sensei no Bulge, Iron Knight.

There are those titles that should have stopped as a one-shot. Ex. Golem Hearts, Hungry Joker.

There are those titles that despite the good premise, end up losing their potential or becoming a mess for not knowing how to fit it in the style of the magazine. Ex: Samon-kun wa Summoner, Stealth Symphony.

There are those titles that are interesting but need time to develop. Time that the WSJ doesn't have. Ex: Devilyman, Double Arts.

And there are those titles that are legitimately bad. Ex: Tokyo Wonder Boys, Mx0.

Spoiler

RELAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAX LOL

 

[shoyoboyo]

Why do you think Mx0 was bad? I thought it was pretty fun to read.

 

[De La Croissant]

I was just kidding.

 

[TyVip]

While I don't know about other publishers, Shueisha, or at least the Jump department, is rather nice to its artists as seen in the Tsukuda interview. Jump will release a tankoubon which means royalties, however little, to the mangaka. They also help with living expenses and necessities as needed. Also there seems to be 2 year cycle between a mangaka being cancelled and then coming back again. Yokota is about the only person I can think off the top of my head that came back within 6 months. Ikezawa went almost 2 years between Mononofu and Noah's Notes. Even Horikoshi and Tabata had about 2 years between their previous series and their current series. I don't think Jump wants to let these people go though they will go if they want to but its probably not a bad deal to be stuck unless you have multiple series that failed to take off.

I still think it's a one year contract with annually renew.

Because it would suck if you stuck in a 2~4 years contracts and all of your series (maximum 3 in a 2 years interval) failed.
I also think there are some sort of conditions that you have to draw to get paid, otherwise successful finished series author can just not work, live off of royalties AND a salary.
But again we don't have enough information so I will leave it at that.

 

[Tamil]

Since Shimabukuro Minecraft oneshot was set for April, I think it will be in issue 21-22 then

That's correct. It's confirmed to be out on the 23rd.

 

[Belkac3m]

There is a book written by shuho sato "manga binbo" about the economy of manga industry.

He is the author of say hello to Black Jack, bokuman (bakuman ?). He publishes his works himself on a website "mangaonweb", I think it's a magazine he created lol.

I think it could contain information about that.

http://shuhosato.mangareborn.jp/blog/?m=201306

He is not a wsj author, but I thought it can be useful for you.

 

[OfficialHxH]