Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2018] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Halloween]

I don't get it

It's a joke about the volume sales.

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

At least they added Kinnikuman to Ore Jump Collection. Now the onlly important title left is Rokudenashi Blues.

 

[101nemesis]

Also Heiji, I know you get this a lot but thanks for doing what you do. This forum would be mostly dead and filled with nonsensical fights if it weren't for you posting useful things all the time.

Tatsuya MATSUKI (Act-age) : Mizuiro Kojima (Bleach)

What a weird character to choose and draw.

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

I shall ask this. Why are they celebrating 50th anniversary this week? Wasn't issue 1 released the 1st of August?

 

[MangAniMY]

I shall ask this. Why are they celebrating 50th anniversary this week? Wasn't issue 1 released the 1st of August?

Cover date is 1 August, store date should be earlier,
Current difference is 2 weeks (would made july 18) so maybe the difference was larger before (3 weeks would put it at today, july 11) since distribution was harder and took longer before and it was initially a Bi-weekly manga


though wikipedia said july 2nd..

 

[Heiji]

1st Shônen Jump out juily 11 1968

 

[Inumaru]

I'm so happy Momiji author choose Bossun, he's my favorite Jump character. It's also cool to see Takeshi and Masaru-san being picked. Sadly no Bobobo character...

 

[razerxs]

Oricon Ranking June 25 - July 01
343256 *343256 Haikyuu!!
313511 *313511 MHA
174324 *174324 Shokugeki no Soma
*91604 **91604 World's End Harem
*88994 *126643 Slam Dunk 7
*86882 *123890 Slam Dunk 8
*85901 *122067 Slam Dunk 9
*83950 *119655 Slam Dunk 10
*64762 **64762 We Never Learn
*56441 **56441 Yunna's Haunted Hot Springs
*56071 **56071 Dr Stone
*37353 **37353 Robot X LASERBEAM
*35215 1916858 One Piece
*28581 **28581 Jujutsu Kaisen
*17357 **17357 Kuroko no Basuke Replace Plus
*16164 *385313 Promised Neverland
*16091 **16091 Aharen-san
*15540 **15540 Act Age
*14736 *247700 Slam Dunk 1
-------------------------------------------------
*14350 *226503 Slam Dunk 2
*13601 *197151 Slam Dunk 4
*13551 *193423 Slam Dunk 5
*13338 **13338 Juuni Taisen
*13199 *207354 Slam Dunk 3
*13166 *190989 Slam Dunk 6
*12169 **12169 Karada Sagashi Kai
*10527 **10527 Yuuna's OVA
*10354 *644263 MHA 18
**8515 *238278 Dragon Ball Super
**8495 2376171 One Piece
**8197 *679357 MHA 17

 

[ShenGao]

*28581 **28581 Jujutsu Kaisen

Looks like the joke backfired.

 

[SharkBait]

Oricon Ranking June 25 - July 01
343256 *343256 Haikyuu!!
313511 *313511 MHA
174324 *174324 Shokugeki no Soma
*91604 **91604 World's End Harem
*88994 *126643 Slam Dunk 7
*86882 *123890 Slam Dunk 8
*85901 *122067 Slam Dunk 9
*83950 *119655 Slam Dunk 10
*64762 **64762 We Never Learn
*56441 **56441 Yunna's Haunted Hot Springs
*56071 **56071 Dr Stone
*37353 **37353 Robot X LASERBEAM
*35215 1916858 One Piece
*28581 **28581 Jujutsu Kaisen
*17357 **17357 Kuroko no Basuke Replace Plus
*16164 *385313 Promised Neverland
*16091 **16091 Aharen-san
*15540 **15540 Act Age
*14736 *247700 Slam Dunk 1
-------------------------------------------------
*14350 *226503 Slam Dunk 2
*13601 *197151 Slam Dunk 4
*13551 *193423 Slam Dunk 5
*13338 **13338 Juuni Taisen
*13199 *207354 Slam Dunk 3
*13166 *190989 Slam Dunk 6
*12169 **12169 Karada Sagashi Kai
*10527 **10527 Yuuna's OVA
*10354 *644263 MHA 18
**8515 *238278 Dragon Ball Super
**8495 2376171 One Piece
**8197 *679357 MHA 17

More than 15% of Yuuna fans got the Ova, I guess that is decent performance.

Jujutsu should easily overtake Dr. Stone in 3 volumes.

 

[Mr.Fujimaster]

Oricon Ranking June 25 - July 01
343256 *343256 Haikyuu!!
313511 *313511 MHA
174324 *174324 Shokugeki no Soma
*91604 **91604 World's End Harem
*88994 *126643 Slam Dunk 7
*86882 *123890 Slam Dunk 8
*85901 *122067 Slam Dunk 9
*83950 *119655 Slam Dunk 10
*64762 **64762 We Never Learn
*56441 **56441 Yunna's Haunted Hot Springs
*56071 **56071 Dr Stone
*37353 **37353 Robot X LASERBEAM
*35215 1916858 One Piece
*28581 **28581 Jujutsu Kaisen
*17357 **17357 Kuroko no Basuke Replace Plus
*16164 *385313 Promised Neverland
*16091 **16091 Aharen-san
*15540 **15540 Act Age
*14736 *247700 Slam Dunk 1
-------------------------------------------------
*14350 *226503 Slam Dunk 2
*13601 *197151 Slam Dunk 4
*13551 *193423 Slam Dunk 5
*13338 **13338 Juuni Taisen
*13199 *207354 Slam Dunk 3
*13166 *190989 Slam Dunk 6
*12169 **12169 Karada Sagashi Kai
*10527 **10527 Yuuna's OVA
*10354 *644263 MHA 18
**8515 *238278 Dragon Ball Super
**8495 2376171 One Piece
**8197 *679357 MHA 17

I expected these sales of Jujutsu Kaisen.
I knew I was going to sell more than Act-Age.
Next step is:
75k and Ame Talk.

It is interesting to see that the special volume of Yuuna-san sold 10k.
I expect the Blu-ray/DVD sales come close to that value.

 

[ChocoBar9]

Jujutsu sales are like that largely due to the shortage.

 

[Askeladd]

Know when it will end (around) Gintama?

 

[ChocoBar9]

Akira Toriyama x Takehiko Inoue Interview
It was very respectful and relaxed.

- Toriyama says that there was a time after serialisation where he was very bitter and had health issues. He told his editor that he can't draw manga any longer, so his editor told him to write down his name. When he did that his editor said that if he can write his name, he can draw and laughed at him.
- Inoue says Toriyama's comics are very unique, so Toriyama tells him that he didn't really read WSJ much back then that's probably why. He says that once he was recommended to check out Slam Dunk which was very popular and drawn nice back then. He was told it was the hypest thing around. Inoue meanwhile says he felt that way when he first encountered One Piece and Naruto.
- Toriyama says that others can't help you at drawing what you really want to.
- Inoue says that he learned a lot about drawing during Slam Dunk's run, that's why the art is so different across volumes.
- One of them (unclear who) tried to get into Young Magazine, but settled for WSJ as second choice lol.
- Toriyama had only like 2 assistants throughout their works.
- At one point Toriyama was so tired, he only drew like 13 pages a week and wanted out, because he couldn't draw any longer. He was told back then that if Dragon Ball is not interesting for 10 weeks in a row they will let him go. Sadly Toriyama failed at making it uninteresting.
- Toriyama is like a textbook to Inoue
- Toriyama's first assistant was during his stuff before DB and in the beginning of DB with him, the second around the middle of DB onwards.
- Both of them said that if they look at the newest Jump Comics, it feels like these new mangaka are too influenced by the old comics that they've enjoyed. So although the artwork of WSJ Manga got better over time, for Toriyama and Inoue, a lot of personality was lost in the process. Toriyama adds that he things a lot of stuff is just boring and he'd rather see something that makes him go "Wow look at this guy, he must be stupid in the head! How amazing!".

 

[Tamil]

Know when it will end (around) Gintama?

Spoiler

 

[Serinox]

- Both of them said that if they look at the newest Jump Comics, it feels like these new mangaka are too influenced by the old comics that they've enjoyed. So although the artwork of WSJ Manga got better over time, for Toriyama and Inoue, a lot of personality was lost in the process. Toriyama adds that he things a lot of stuff is just boring and he'd rather see something that makes him go "Wow look at this guy, he must be stupid in the head! How amazing!".

Ouch, I did not expect such harsh words in a Japanese style interview. I wonder what goes through the head of one of these new mangaka when they read this opinion from two of the most legendary mangaka in (more) modern Jump history

 

[SharkBait]

Fortunately Toriyama is a fan and reader of BLack Clover.

 

[MangAniMY]

 

[De La Croissant]

Ouch, I did not expect such harsh words in a Japanese style interview. I wonder what goes through the head of one of these new mangaka when they read this opinion from two of the most legendary mangaka in (more) modern Jump history

They probably agree and think "if only these stupid editors gave me more freedom...".

 

[MangAniMY]

Bossun looks like tsubaki in disguise

Kinnikuman is perfect

Lala is standard female boichi character

Hikaru is ok

Arale looks fine

Ichigo nose felt off

not a bad Yugi

Kenshin looking like a lazy samurai

Not a bad neuro

Takeshi is ok..

no opinion on the rest

Spoiler

they are all on the cover, saturday is going to be busy day... imgur or twitter?