Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2018] - Discussion and TOC Talk

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My thoughts on the trio
- Chainsawman: I think the fact why I liked it the most is because of a VERY relatable and grounded MC (he feels real unlike the majority WSJ MCs) and the solid concept and design of the ''Chainsawman'' itself. Needs to develop more so I could start liking it more, but the core is set up well for now and keeps me engaged. This is bound to survive the next axe round, so hopefully it will open up the plot.
- Ne0lation: Great art and MC design, with a cool hacking concept, but man, what a dissapointment. Recent chapter is a pure filler in itself, not much to see in character developments nor relationships between them. Since Jimoto is a guaranteed to survive at least until Mid 2019 (and probably more), this is among the ones on the chopping block (along with Yuuna, David and Higuma).
-Gokutei Higuma: One word to describe it...mediocre. I have so far seen nothing that it drives it apart from the rest of demon hunting mangas. Another cute girl MC that serves no purpose except fanservice....eh.
The hand-sins relation is an interesting idea, but that is the biggest flaw of this manga. It is just riding on the potential and not much more.
 

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Higuma > Chainsawman >> ne0;lation imo.
I'd be fine with both Higuma and Chainsawman sticking around. ne0;lation can go as far as I'm concerned, not really feeling it with that one.
 

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For me the MC on Chainsawman represents more of a deconstruction of the usual jump shonen MC, he's obsessed with just surviving, even humiliating himself for it, instead of wanting to become X, he just want his primal needs to be fulfilled, and that is a weapon for people to manipulate him.
If the author decide to continue with the perv route for a long time is going to be such a waste, I feel like the MC has a lot of room to grow and the side characters are good too.I even feel like makima is going to become a villain at some point.
 

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One of the other reason why I prefer chainsaw man over the other new series is the cinematic panelling. Despite that I still think the author hasn't shown what he's truly capable of like in Fire Punch.
 

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if Jotaro, Dio, Tsuna and Korosensei are confirmed that 4/12
I'm guessing the last 8 are
Ace, Akainu (OP), Kyouraku, Urahara (Bleach), Sakura, Kakashi, the third Hokage (Naruto) Jagi (Houkuto no Ken) ?
 

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Have a feeling Seto Kaiba could be one to add to Yami Yugi for Jump Force.
 

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One of the other reason why I prefer chainsaw man over the other new series is the cinematic panelling. Despite that I still think the author hasn't shown what he's truly capable of like in Fire Punch.
Yeah, I'd say that's the biggest strength of the series, at least for now. I'm glad I came up with that wording since cinematic paneling is a good way to describe what the series is doing on an artistic level.

I'm still enjoying Higuma a lot. I don't know what to expect from ne0;lation, but I am curious to see what direction it decides to go in.
 

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if Jotaro, Dio, Tsuna and Korosensei are confirmed that 4/12
I'm guessing the last 8 are
Ace, Akainu (OP), Kyouraku, Urahara (Bleach), Sakura, Kakashi, the third Hokage (Naruto) Jagi (Houkuto no Ken) ?
Madara is more likely to get confirmed instead of Sakura.
 

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I hate when people tease things like that, if they know why wont they say it. Like wasnt Smash people at least were positing *rumored* [blurry cam] rosters.
 

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So apparently a Bleach reddit user went to the Pierrot booth to watch the Bleach screening and there was no sign of the image that everyone was talking about yesterday. There was a promotion for Brave Souls after the screening but nothing with that particular image according to them.
 

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if Jotaro, Dio, Tsuna and Korosensei are confirmed that 4/12
I'm guessing the last 8 are
Ace, Akainu (OP), Kyouraku, Urahara (Bleach), Sakura, Kakashi, the third Hokage (Naruto) Jagi (Houkuto no Ken) ?
I'll be suprised if they only leave Deku from MHA, maybe one-two more characters? (Some of Bakugo, All Might, Todoroki, AFO and Shigaraki make sense).
Not sure if they'll add more characters from OP, DBZ or Bleach, but i'll be that at leasr two more characters from Naruto will be added (probably Kakashi and Madara).
I'll also bet on Gintoki.
 

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Higuma > Chainsawman >> ne0;lation imo.
I'd be fine with both Higuma and Chainsawman sticking around. ne0;lation can go as far as I'm concerned, not really feeling it with that one.
ne0;lation = Higuma > Chainsawman

Honestly prefer both or either over chainsawman. Leaning towards ne0;lation a bit more though, ne0 is like my favorite type of lead character.
 

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So apparently a Bleach reddit user went to the Pierrot booth to watch the Bleach screening and there was no sign of the image that everyone was talking about yesterday. There was a promotion for Brave Souls after the screening but nothing with that particular image according to them.
The pic was obviously photoshopped, zoom in close enough and you can see the image hanging off the screen, also the pic used is clearly BBS art
 

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Chainsaw man is fine so far. I didn't read the other two as they didn't interest me.
 

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Yeah, like others have said, what makes Chainsaw Man great is that the characters all feel real. They don’t feel like manga characters with specific stereotypes and/or quirks they have to adhere to. He’s not afraid to make Denji come across as petty and flawed, even though we’ve seen him insanely badass. He’s not just some can-do-no-wrong, naturally giften/hard working character who can overcome all. He’s just a lonely guy with a shitty life who’s been given this ridiculous power, but obtaining that power hasn’t changed him at all. It’s almost as if Fujimoto thinks “if this person actually existed and I met them, what would they be like? An extremely lonely teenage kid? Well, he probably wants to touch boobs first and foremost...”

Compare that to the other two this round, and the difference is night and day. They’re both shounen through-and-through. MCs are gifted and help the weak. They got respectable goals and their main character traits. Intro villains are overly edgy. While Chainsaw man has almost done the completely opposite here. Similar to MHA actually, but Denji completely lacks the shounen protagonist traits of Deku, and Makima -the saviour character - certainly isn’t respectable like All Might. Hell she outright makes him her pet.

There’s just something so raw about the character interactions that make it so compelling. So much is told through panelling, facial expressions and simple banter. Nothing has even happened yet and there’s no real villans, but I’m totally hooked on every single character that’s been introduced. There’s no particularly structure the series is adhereing to either, and that feels fresh. That said, it’s extremely unshounen-like, so it’ll be interesting to see how it performs in sales particularly, if its not already canned by that point.
 

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An extremely lonely teenage kid? Well, he probably wants to touch boobs first and foremost...”
I dont know, to say that he is someone who doesnt feel quirky or follows a manga trope, yet then to praise him for doing the genre standard for many boys manga do, seems incredibly weird praise to give him.
 

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Hori should take Krambs to became his assistant. Krambs is avid fan HeroAca and he/she can imitate Hori(not heavy action of course) art almost 0.9 to 1
 

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Apparantly, the editorial department was also surprised by the Jimoto announcement xD

Also, they are looking for local stories of readers that might be worth to be told and have that e-mail set-up for replies and stories.
 

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They’re both shounen through-and-through. MCs are gifted and help the weak.
I disagree. ne0 is only concerned for whatever benefits his goal. He wasnt even interested in helping the cheerleader girls until he was bribed.

Meanwhile you have Denji there who wants to befriend humans and demons (oh my, we shouldnt kill every demon, what if there are good demons?!), attempts to befriend the little kid, and is pure good, like Deku.

So Im confused on what you are basing Denji's "unique" ness on.
 
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